if your passport is not a proove of ownership what is THEN !!!

[mighty]

Passports are a joke and not worth the paper they are written on.

There should only have been ONE authority to issue ALL UK passports, not the numerous mickey mouse agencies that there are.

Additionally all horses should have been required to be chipped and this linked to both the passport and a separate owner certificate.

Mind all the time horses are routinely scanned and chip checked at sales/ports etc... It is all entirely pointless.

you are right, they don't give a dam, all the want is to pocket the money to make a passport, they don't check anything, even the chips all money making, we had all our horses chipped, they got stolen, and they had a british passport with our chipnumbers, so whatever next !!!

 

[Fenris]

Proof of ownership is very difficult. That is why there is an old saying "Possession is nine tenths of the law." If you have something in your possession anyone with a claim has to prove their claim in court.

So what to do to prove ownership - of anything, not just animals?

Registration documents are meaningless. So are chips. As has already been said, most state they are not proof of ownership, just who happens to be the registered keeper.

Whenever you get an animals or other possession, get a receipt. If it is a gift then you and whoever is giving it to you should draw up a short document stating that ownership has been transferred, both of you sign it and date it.. It is amazing how many friendships break up because people misunderstand that something has been loaned/given or whatever.

Any transfer of ownership should be documented.

If an animal is born to you keep a photographic record of the animal with its mother and as it grows. Take regular photos with the days headlines in the photo along with the animal. Don't assume that the date put on by a camera or phone will be accepted a proof - you can set any date.

Of course, there are lots of other things that can feed into a general picture, but only receipts or transfer of ownership documents will stand up in court.

 

[easytraveller]

Slightly different but still relevant - I part owned a horse with someone. They decided they wanted to sell. I had a receipt in my name stating the 50% that I had paid towards the purchase of the horse - the horses passport was however in the name of the other person - BIG MISTAKE - even though I had a receipt in my name and a solicitor in tow the BSJA did not recognise that I had anything to do with the horse whatsoever. I had asolutely no rights - the op stopped the horse jumping and there was nothing I could do about it!

I would suggest to anyone whether entering into a partnership or as a single person have your name on every piece of documentation that you can! Fortunately as someone said in a previous thread 'posession is 9/10th's of the law' and as the horse was in my posession and there were no grounds for complaint or absue in anyway they could not remove the horse from my care. Still cost a fortune to settle with solicicitors and court cases - so BEWARE!!!!!