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After an absolutely beautiful hack this morning on Boo I thought nothing could lower my mood....

... how wrong I was.

Got back from our hack about half 10 after a good few hours out. Untacked, groomed and turned her out. Then headed straight over to the "yard" to bring Shadow, one of my golden oldies over to the house for a groom.

Only not a chance... the pig ignorant YO over there, who has just ripped down a gorgeous stable block to build (the worst attempt at traditional looking home) their new house. Got headcollar on Shadow and started walking up the field, he was standing outside his house looking down the field, and without doubt saw me walking up the field with her. So what does he do? Goes over to a pile of wood, picks up an axe and starts chopping. Ok so she gets nervous, starts dancing about abit, but I jsut about manage to hold onto her and keep walking up the field. Then what does he do? Starts up that horrid squealing electric saw thing and starts slicing up the wood. She goes mental, spinning round, and bolts, pulling the leadrope out of my hand.
He hears her thundering off down the field, looks up, stops the saw, stands with hands on hips for a moment until she stops.. then bloomen well starts it up again.
So I go up and say to him she's scared and would I be able to bring her out while it's off. Very politely and don't tell him what to do, just ask nicely. What does he say?
"Too busy. Can't stop just for the horse".
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He owns a yard? Albeit only my 2 oldies and his wife's horse, Blue, who may as well be ours too but thats not the point.
So basically, i'm told im not allowed to take my pony out of the field.
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Im so sick and tired of these ignorant and awkward people.

All it would take is 2 minutes to bring her up the field and go past the saw. But no. Thats way too difficult.
As if it isn't bad enough that he sets off fireworks at all times of the year, and all times of the day, or night. He's driving me insane but we can't leave for the sake of our ponies, they need the grazing, and we can't leave Blue alone.

Bill and Pally's owner is exactly the bl**dy same. Just because they have the land or they have the big house, fancy car or the notes in the wallet, or the castle.. probably just to compensate for an inadequacy in another department *AHEM*... they think they can strut around and treat everyone else like they don't matter. The people that do graft and do try to help and do just generally try to please or atleast keep the horses healthy.
For all the money in the world I wouldn't want to be like that... Pally hasn't got any bedding because his owner's are too bloomen ignorant to order it in. So we went the 14 miles to the feed store and shoved 2 bags into the back of our little vauxhall corsa, buying the bedding out of our own pocket, simply because having a horse with a ligament problem standing on concrete it absolutely ludicrous.

As you can tell i'm absolutely livid, and it's really everything has built up and I feel so bloody useless.

Know what would calm me down? Pampering my oldies. But can I bloomen well do that?!

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If you dont like where you are the only thing to do is-----move! From what you write and how you write it, you seem to have a huge chip on your shoulder re people who have money, castles, big houses etc. These people exist and have every right to do as they please ..'a mans home is his castle' and all that.
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I agree, he could have turned the chainsaw off till you had passed but then again he is not running a livery yard as such and is carrying out his normal daily routines.Maybe you should have waited till he had finished or should begin to de sensitize your pony. To be honest, I think you should be looking for somewhere else, I doubt if you will ever be happy there
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. Surely there are other possibilities in Ayreshire! M.
 
Don't get me wrong i'm not against anyone with a big house, land etc. But i'm sick and tired of being treated like the scum of the earth.

I know i'm over reacting. It's all stemming from the whole situation with Bill and Pally. I should jsut suck it up and get on with it.

I can't leave this place;
1) I cant yet drive, tho am learning and there is nowhere close enough where we can keep our ponies that i can access twice a day.

2) Should we leave , the old horse Blue would be left by himself, and given that we are the ones that feed him, worm him etc....

Sorry, just totally ignore me. Im having a teenagers strop.
 
I think you're right, awkward s*d could have switched the machine off for you 2 go past. It seems consideration is something some people are incapable of.
 
I dont see why he couldn't have had the decency to wait while you got your horse sorted, in my job of 35 years I have worked at thousands of different peoples houses and different classes and incomes, in my experience and I have a lot of it, the biggest twats are the ones with the most money and biggest houses, not ALL but most, fact of life unfortunately, move yards and let them worry about their horse.
 
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Do you get your ponies Grazing/livery for free for looking after their horse?

ETS Im not being nosey, just hope you get something in return.
 
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You wouldn't like it on my farm then LOL!! We have chainsaws going, tractors running, machinery doing it's stuff and there is always noisy repairs of some description going on. If we were to stop what we were doing every time a horse had to come out of a field, then sadly the farm could not possibly be run efficiently.

We don't stop what we are doing when any horses come out of their fields with their owners but then none of the horses here care one jot about any noise which goes on. In fact, with regards to chainsaws, they are all so darned nosy that we have to keep someone on guard to keep the blighters away!

PS. By the thoughts on this thread, I must be frightfully wealthy and ignorant......or perhaps I am just a farmer?
 
Tia - So if you were doing something with a chainsaw right at the field gate, and someone was trying to bring their horse in, and it kept bolting because it was scared of said chainsaw, you wouldn't turn it off at all? You'd just keep going?

Misshell - We look after their horse, dogs and cats and we get discounted grazing for 1 horse (tho not free) and pay for the other.
 
It wouldn't be an issue - the only problem the owner would have would be to push through the throng of horses who would be congregating at the gateway. All of the horses here appear to love chainsaws....actually they love all sorts of weird noises. My daughter goes out and plays the trumpet to them
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. Needless to say she isn't very good, but the worse she plays, the more interested the horses are!
 
Of course he should of switched it off, theres not many horses that would walk past a din like that
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All you can do is either (try) and have a chat or move yards (which is not easy), thank god the horse that bolted off wasnt injured
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But if it were an issue?
Say you had a new horse who was not used to chainsaw. That's the point im trying to make.
I don't tend to fire up a chain saw near to Shadow very often tbph!

I know that the local farmers will always turn motors off of quad bikes/tractors if they find one of the horses is spooking, though that's rare as mine are all very used to farm machinery. Farmers are very busy men, I understand that. But they still have the courtesy. But this guy doesen't even work and yet he's too busy slicing up wood (god knows why) to stop for 2 minutes just to let a paying customer of his remove a horse from the field.

I find it rude.
 
If the horse was new and was a silly spooky so-and-so then yes I would turn the chainsaw off whilst the horse was taken out of the field; however even that wouldn't really be necessary as all of my fields have 2 gates situated at other points in the field, therefore the owner would simply have to take the horse out of the other field gate.

With over 40 horses here there really is no way we could stop everything we are doing when they come out; but as I say, we honestly don't have to, the horses are absolutely fine with any crashing and banging around. This is a working farm and all of them are totally intrigued with everything that goes on - very often, the louder the noise the implement makes, the more interested the horses are in it.....which in itself is a nuisance because we have to keep pushing the horses away.
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What does sound weird to me is that if he is frequently chopping wood with his chainsaw, why aren't the horses used to the noise by now?
 
Have you ever asked him to not do loud things round your horses?

I encourage my husband to crash about, rev tractors and carry on as normal. In my book it is a priority to de-sensetise horses to anything they might happen to come across, so the more chain sawing and thrashing about the better.

This way I know that if I am out and a tank, rattley trailer or B minded driver comes along I know my horses can deal with worse. Round here we have live firing ranges, forrestry,shoots, loads of farming and some helish busy roads with townie squaddies wizzing along them. I would not concider taking a horse out unless I knew all was well.

Doing a bit of bombproof training will HELP the horses, use this numpty to your advantage. If you see him chain sawing, take the horse to have a look, don't outface it and build up slow. Also, have a word with him in a nice way. Explain that some horses are more sensetive than others and you don't want an accident. From his point of view it is worth him waiting a moment, takes a moment to stop, hours to deal with an accident and its consequences.
 
Lol Tia. It's probably a good way for them to be.
However i still feel that seeing as we are paying customers and seeing as it was clear horse was worried about the noise, surely it is common sense to simply turn the machine off for a moment while I took her out of the field.
Just feeling frustrated today I guess. And this didnt help.
Sorry for the rant.
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Some farmers round our way are so considerate that when you hack past them they turn their machinery off, only to turn it on again, which is noisier, when you just get past them and it's behind the horse LOL. Still it's the thought that counts
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I wouldn't expect anyone working on the farm to stop for me as April lives in the field next to it, is very used to it and it also means that she has no excuse when I'm out on a hack. It's better to desensitize them if you can do it safely. They would stop in a second if I was having difficulties though.

If the horse was really spooking though then yes he should have turned it off.
 
Didn't bother reading this, BUT, i ALWAYS LOOK AS THESE INCIDENTS AS A WAY OF FINDING OUT WHAT I NEED TO WORK ON WITH MY HORSE, RATHER THAN WHINGEING ABOUT OTHERS. (sORRY NOT SHOUTING, LEFT CAPS ON!)
 
Thistle - To be perfectly honest I don't have that many opportunities to get my horses used to chainsaws!
I can't say i'm that envious of people that do either.
She can cope with walking past leaf blowers, chain saws, lawnmowers etc when out on hacks... but i'm not sure all that many horses would be comfortable having to stop (to shut gate) within a few metres of the thing. Even I wasn't comfortable.
 
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Don't get me wrong i'm not against anyone with a big house, land etc. But i'm sick and tired of being treated like the scum of the earth.

I know i'm over reacting. It's all stemming from the whole situation with Bill and Pally. I should jsut suck it up and get on with it.

I can't leave this place;
1) I cant yet drive, tho am learning and there is nowhere close enough where we can keep our ponies that i can access twice a day.

2) Should we leave , the old horse Blue would be left by himself, and given that we are the ones that feed him, worm him etc....

Sorry, just totally ignore me. Im having a teenagers strop.

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As above.
 
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Misshell - We look after their horse, dogs and cats and we get discounted grazing for 1 horse (tho not free) and pay for the other.

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I would be expecting them both for free if you do their dogs and cats aswell!!
 
I may well get shot down for this. But I think in this situation you have 2 choices:

1. Move, or
2. Quit whinging.

I know it's harsh but if it's that upsetting to be there, then the only alternative is to move. Yes, it may well mean cycling a few extra miles but at the end of the day, you have to think about what would make you/your horses happier. And if you can drive soon anyway, it's not even for that long.

And if the other people are really that worried about the other horse being on his own, I'm sure they will do something about it, but if it's their horse anyway, why are you looking after it?

I know we can all get riled with people on yards but if it really is that bad, move. If you can't/won't then I don't think you have much cause to moan about it. Sorry. Hope it all works out for you and your horses
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Having known Kirsty online now for a few years i have come to know both her, her horses & Adopted horses and i have to say now that some of the comments of stop wingeing are harsh.

Kirsty and her family look after other peoples horses who are old and frail whos owners cant be arsed to get off their fat backsides and look after their own horses properly. She is a considerate person and i can tottally understand where she comes from.

She has said that she cannot move for various reasons (read her posts) dont blaze her as she isnt in a position to just up and move sticks.

If it was your own horses who spooked at something caused by someone else im sure a hell of a lot of you wouldnt be too happy either!

Consideration of others is important when you have animals especially horses as in reality having a spooking horse on the end of a leadrope is quite dangerous in itself.

Its easy to say "Oh get it used to it then it wont spook" but we all know horses can see the same thing 1000 times a day and one day out of the blue it will still spook at the same thing.

My indi is a ex racer and as such has seen some of the busiest atmospheres possible and yet sometimes he still has a flid at the most pathetic.

Kirsty hun, just vent let it out x hope shadow was ok.
 
My father once went into the stable and started drilling a hige hole... with the stable door open and the pony still in there. Pony bolted, but my father didnt see what he'd done wrong. Because he isnt horsey. I didnt blame him or get angry, I just laughed it off.
NOTHING gets stopped at the yard we're on. It's a working farm, and stuff needs to be done. New pony is frightened of Quads, and when her owner told me I said "oh well, she'll get used to them cos my dad drives one past the stable aboput six times a day and will be parking it next to her stable".

If I asked YO or dad to stop doing something because it scared one of the horses I'd get told where to get off.

If it's not specifically a livery yard I'm afraid you have to accept this is someone's home and you cannot dictate what they can and can't do. It doesnt matter if they're millionaires or what, how would you feel if someone came to your home and said "please can you not mow your lawn, as my dog is frightened". You'd be pretty annoyed right?
 
OK heres a question for you all.

Say that you are walking down a road riding your horse enjoying the summer sunshine.

All of a sudden a man is cutting down some trees with one of those strimmer things and your horse freaks out, spins, refuses to go forward, begins to back up in to the traffic behind you.

Are you seriously telling me that you wouldnt call out to that man and polightly say "Excuse me do you mind just turning it off while i pass?"

I know i would and i do if i have a problem etc.

Im all for letting horses see new things as this is all part of their education but for gods sake if a horse freaks or spooks surely asking someone to turn something off or stop something for both yours and your horses safety is ok?
 
Oh hun we can all have a winge now and then, were female afterall!.

I know when people have been inconsiderate with me when i have been out with Indi i have ended up saying something because in this day and age there is just no need for it.

And Indi is fine thank you, still worrying me whereever possible but i dont think that will ever change lol x
 
I think the issue is not really about whether someones horse should or shouldn't get used to noises or whether just because they are lord of the manner in their own castle, I think it's down to peoples lack of manners and consideration for others, which nowadays seems to be non existent, I think indianas_mum is right in her reply.
 
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