ignoring laminitus

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Bit of a strange one this lady at the yard has a horse that had laminitus for the 1st time ever last year ( although we are amazed she hasnt had it before due to her weight) she had the vet out (didnt really have a choice as YO made her) horse given painkillers and told to loose weight deep bed ect.... however by 3 days later horse completely sound. I dont think the lady ever thought it actually was laminitus.
Fast forward to yesterday horse the size of a small rhino again, go out to get my horse in and she ( other persons laminitic horse) is laid down i get her up and she is standing front feet out struggling to walk, so bring her in and call owner, owner arrived last night announces she is foot sore and fine and puts back out.
So after all the waffle what happens if the laminitus is ignored will it progress or is there a chance she will just stay shuffly and footy?
2 people at yard told her yesterday she was more than footsore and she wont listen YO on holiday for another 10 days and as we are a DIY yard no one in charge so to speak, what to do?
 
If laminitis is left there is a very high chance the pedal bones will rotate, possibly even to the extent of dropping through the sole.

The outcome for the horse is death.
 
if ignored the pedal bone in the foot will rotate to the point that it will start to drop through the sole of the foot. I have seen this whilst working in practice and it is the most awful thing to put any animal through. The vets bills will escalate and she'll end up with a huge bill from the vet and a crippled pony.
 
I think the owner is in complete denial over it all, like i say despite the vet telling her last year the horse had laminitus and the fact she presented with typical laminitic symptoms she doesnt believe it actually was laminitus.
She ought to grasp how serious it could be as a pony on the yard nearly died as the result of laminitus. Is it possible for laminitus not to progress and the horse to just remain shuffly and footy?
 
Poor horse - the owner should be PTS.
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Laminitis is a medical emergency as should be treated with as much urgency and concern as colic - and from then on managed with great care.
 
i would call a horse chariety and get her done for falling to get the vet out if she is that bad. The silly woman dosent she under stand it is live threating!
 
There is a chance she would just stay shuffley and footy. In my early days of horse ownership on DIY yards on housing estates
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I saw a few ponies cope with what was undoubtably low grade laminitis for months and get better eventually on their own.

Saying that, its incredibly painful for the horse and if the owner is stupid enough to leave the horse to take its chances, its more likely to deteriorate until the foot damage is irreparable than it is to get better on its own. Also, if this horse was struggling to stand it sounds like the laminitis is already past low grade and its having a full blown attack. If they ignore it they are both leaving a horse to suffer and they are risking its life.
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If she keeps ignoring this, the horse will end up being PTS, as the pedal bones will rotate, and possibly drop through the sole.
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This is actually a form of neglect. A welfare charity would not look on this too kindly, especially as she has been informed and ignored advise.
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there is a horse on our yard that has lammi. we've managed to get the owner to have pads put on its front feet (Friend did the worse foot for them). they've buted it and it's now on soaked hay, but it's still out as they say it goes nuts in the stable. we've got them to put it in a reduced sized paddock, but the area is still too big - i'm working on getting it reduced. vet hasn't seen it, but farrier has. poor thing is terribly overweight - they just keep on saying it's always been that fat. it's at the shuffly stage, but did try to bounce around the other day.

some people! it's like talking to a brick wall
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why won't they take any notice/action????????
 
I think the problem here is, laminitis is a management thing. It's also hard work, and disrupts your routine and everything concerning your horse!
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Because of this, people tend to ignore it and hope it will go away! IT WON@T!!!!!
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If you care for your horse, and it has had an attack of laminitis, then it is a management problem FOR LIFE!

This lady, needs to contact the Laminitis Trust, and work her routine to care for this horse. With good management laminitis can be prevented and the horse can lead a normal (albeit different) life.

One horse is not so difficult to manage.
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So after all the waffle what happens if the laminitus is ignored will it progress or is there a chance she will just stay shuffly and footy?


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It's pedal bones will continue to rotate to a point where the laminae will all become detached from the pedal bone, leaving the pedal bone 'floating' and she will become a sinker. The bones will eventually start to drop through the horse's soles. The horse will be in unbearable agony now and when she eventually becomes a sinker, she will be crippled. In short, if she's left out in the field like this, she's going to die a long and agonising death.

It sounds like last year, the mare just had LGL and got over it. It sounds more serious now, and the fact she is out walking round her field, mean unneeded pressure is being placed on the already strained or broken laminae.

The person doing this is a stupid bitch and does not deserve to own horses.
 
yes, but they don't!
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they have a horse because they like to own a horse, not because they want to do anything with it other than look at it and say "that's my horse"!!!

anything like actually working the poor thing or putting it in an environment suited to it's needs is not on - unless it matches the perfect bl00dy image in their head of their horse grazing in lush pasture
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it took five of us, including the farrier, to get this poor ned into some sort of management. we had to work like water torture, dripping onto the owner
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i have no problem if people want to keep horses just because they want to have a horse and won't/can't ride or otherwise exercise them - BUT in that case, as with all horses, MANAGE them suited to the horse's needs.

off to eat cake and drink tea and try and think calming thoughts.
 
If the horse is in obvious pain call the ILPH, a welfare officer would probably make it out today and would speak tot he owner about either getting a vet or having the horse confiscated and prosecution brought against her. Simple as.
 
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First of all if someone is down at the yard and the owner is not then bring the horse in again. If you can keep some grass out of its system then do.

Call some one. Rspca. ilph. who ever, just ring someone.

The horse will die a slow and agonising death and it could be days it could be months or even years.
 
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If the horse is in obvious pain call the ILPH, a welfare officer would probably make it out today and would speak tot he owner about either getting a vet or having the horse confiscated and prosecution brought against her. Simple as.

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I agree ring the ILPH or RSPCA ASAP

it's not like she hasn't been warned already...

can you really hand on heart stand by and watch this happen to this horse knowing that you could have prevented it's suffering..I couldn't

I know it is a tricky situation but at the end of the day she is blatentley ignoring the welfare of the horse.

Put in in the hands of teh people who have the authority to make her do the right thing...and they will check up on it until satisfied...

AT THE END OF THE DAY IF SHE HAS DONE NOTHING WRONG THEN NOTHING WILL HAPPEN....
 
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