Illegal or not?

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Just had this drawn to my attention - actually its not hard as evidence is everywhere here at the farm...
But wanted to know in your opinion, is it legal to trap foxes to breed? Just that I've seen cages 'hidden' in the trees next to our field (nothing in them) heard 'cries' from trees further away and there has been reports around here lately of missing chickens (about 40 so I heard). I have seen at least 3 dead chicken carcasses out in the fields and came to this conclusion. Several people have been 'doing something' secretive ? (after dark) yet have been using loud quad bikes??!! I also have over heard a convosation about scent for the hunt, but ??? Doesn't add up - whatever is going on,
Your thoughts??
 
I would think not tbh.

But it sounds weird, so maybe you should do more digging and tell the local bobby
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It isn't illegal to trap and shoot foxes. They are vermin after all. It is the lambing season so maybe the local farmer is keeping the fox population down. Or a gamekeeper.

I don't know about the rules and regulations, but traps are supposed to be inspected at least once a day, if not more.
 
I've heard from a very good source that foxes are trapped & then let loose for the hunt, they are then on strange ground & cannot find a den/lair in which to go to ground!
 
Some hunts still use fox scent. This involves trapping and shooting foxes and using them to make scent for the hounds to follow. This is perfectly legal.
 
Or someone could be relesing urban foxes in your area? This often happens. My uncle had this prob on his sheep farm. Alot of his lambs where going missing and he lost all his chickens to. He hurd foxes on his lawn one night and rushed out to see, there was 9. He ran to get his shot gun thinking he would get one atleast and they all just stood there while he shot them all. The poor things had no idea and would have never stood a chance if they came across a rural fox. But some people reliese them into the cuntryside as they are a nusence in towns and they think they won't be in the countryside.
 
I question the story of foxes being trapped and then released to hunt - its still illegal and most hunts are still under scrutiny! However, the release of urban foxes into the countryside is true and is a real issue. Not only are these foxes unable to fend for themselves in the "normal" manner, but the fox population will have already spread itself over the land according to what their territory can offer to support them.

When I lived in Fulham I had quite a run in with a rude neighbour who accused me of of letting my brindled staffie raid his bins. He would not believe me it was a local dog fox living in the nearby vicarage. If he got up at same time as me he would have frequently seen a very cocky Mr Fox casually raiding all the bins.
 
""I question the story of foxes being trapped and then released to hunt - its still illegal and most hunts are still under scrutiny!""

my very good friend 'the terrier man' tells me otherwise Luci07
he says that nothing has changed since the so-called ban, the hunt still does what it's always done
 
erm maybe not the best conversation to have on a open forum,,,,most people connected to hunts know that they follow the rules of the ban to the best of there ability...releasing foxes for the hunt is not something that goes on.................................. cage trappiong foxes is not against any law,,,foxes crying at this time of year is the vixens barking for a mate....quad bikes being used could be for any number of reasons totally unconnected... maybe try to familarise yourself with the workings of the countryside the people and animals in it then maybe everything wont seem so distant and secretive...........................
 
"erm maybe not the best conversation to have on a open forum"

woops!!! wasn't thinking straight, wouldn't want to get my friend or his friends into trouble with the law!!
 
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I've heard from a very good source that foxes are trapped & then let loose for the hunt, they are then on strange ground & cannot find a den/lair in which to go to ground!

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That is such an old wives tail.
 
"they follow the rules of the ban to the best of there ability."

Many or even most of them may indeed do that. But there are plenty of others making no attempt to follow the rules of the ban at all. I could fox hunt any week I like.
 
contact your local police ask for the wildlife animal office and tell they of your suspition it could be for badgers and if it is for the hunt its still against the law to hunt with dogs be it a rabbit fox or any wild animal
 
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its still against the law to hunt with dogs be it a rabbit fox or any wild animal

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urm no you can still hunt rabbits. Only with two dogs though. You are no longer alowed to hunt hare.
Also you can hunt rats with no more than two dogs but you are not alowed to hunt mice.
You can chase any animal with dogs as long as it is shot before the dogs catch it.
 
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contact your local police ask for the wildlife animal office and tell they of your suspition it could be for badgers and if it is for the hunt its still against the law to hunt with dogs be it a rabbit fox or any wild animal

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Lies.
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OP- Being trapped to breed? The blighters breed well enough on their own
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are you sure they're not being trapped and killed?
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could be for badgers!!!! are you serious????? no wonder the countryside as we know it is in such a state when people who know nothing about it come out with statments like that.........
and as correctly stated in the next post it is not illegal to hunt any animal with dogs....please look into what you are saying before saying it as it..................
 
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THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO TRAP BADGERS ARE DEFRA WHO THEN SHOOT THEM TO TRY TO CONTROL THE SPREAD OF TB...

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or rather they don't...hence the problem
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Its not illegal to trap foxes and from what you say these are humane traps, which means the foxes will be shot. And over the years I've had a serious fox problem and so I no longer keep chickens, we have a bad problem of foxes with mange, which dogs, cats and humans can catch it, I did and most uncomfortable it was too, I still start scratching when I think about it. The fox doesn't get treated and it is a slow and painfull death as they lose the abilty to catch food or eat as they spend most of their time trying to ease the itching which they do by biting or scatching their skin, and one of the above is right a lot of foxes are dumped in to the counrtyside and they have no idea how to hunt and they are also the ones bringing the mange in
 
Are you sure the cages are for foxes? Do you live near a shoot? Nearly all the shoots are now catching up hen birds to take to the game farms - this would also explain the nightly quad bikes.
 
No I'm not near any shoot The traps I've seen are for foxes as we seem to have a high count of foxes with mange, which is a terrible thing to see. And I'm glad somebody is doing something about them.
 
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