I'm A horse beater.

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I was trying to bring a friends horse in down at the yard because of the bad weather! So I stroll up to the gate, I call, and he starts to trundle over...

Then another horse, who is quite silly anyway.... Gallops over and starts to try and bite friends horse. They play for a while etc etc...

Other horse goes away, I open the gate and go in to get friends horse... This other horse gallops up to me, and rears, legs kicking through the air, and lands about 2ish meters away from me, he starts to try and rear again, I felt as though I was unsafe and hit other horse, pretty hard with a rope. I get friends horse and start to make my way out, other horse comes over wanting another piece of me, luckily a friend was just arriving and got out of her car to help me!

I can hear the "get the other horse in"'s coming...
But, due to numerous reasons I do not want too handle that horse...

Was I right in hitting it when I felt in danger?
Was I stupid, and should I go dig myself a hole and lie in it?

thanks guys!

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One thing I've learnt is that one of the best ways of winding horses up is to stand by the get and start calling for one (or all of them). Try next time just quietly walking up to the horse you want, and you may avoid problems in the future.
 
I would've reacted the same, and lets face it a fair few of the people 'higher' up in the horse world do alot worse!!
 
If it comes down to you being hurt or you hit the horse to make it back off , it's a no brainer...
We have to enter fields and barns full of horses at close quarters and have to be safe, often raising your voice can be enough , or waving your arms wide, but if it's a dangerous situation you have to approach the horse agressively in your manner, and if that doesn't work, wallop it with whatever is handy, be it a leadrope, your hand or a clod of earth.
I get very cross with idiots who have badly behaved horses like these people, and I would be careful when around this horse, he sounds to have little respect for humans at all.
It doesn't take a lot of effort, just consistent behaviour and bolshy horses learn to move backwards from what in the herd would be their dominant horse (you).
If you get the chance walk up to him when he's quiet and make him move away from you, next time you will find he thinks twice about invading your space!
 
Hi oneboyandhishorse,

Yes, i too would've given the other horse wot for!! To do otherwise risks our own life + limb, + that of the quieter horse.

He was probably just hungry, though, and his owner was later than you. (Fact, i suspect, my friend.)

That's a big prob on a DIY yard, when people come and go at different times? Separate field would be safer? Or owner bringing it in earlier?

Current rules + regs are daft now, but to my common sense, if a horse is tricky, the situation needs sorting at the local level, without any outburst from us lot, which could make further rules + regs.... Sod that for a lark, let's just do some more learning about hosses, whether it be PC, RC or BHS!

And no-one can sort it, unless they understand the horse, + who's involved

Well, oneboyandhishorse, i'd have taught the horse who's boss, also, on this occasion, but i suspect there's more behind it.... (just call me Sherlock!!)

All best wishes, BS x
 
Was it just the two horses who were out or were there others there too? At our yard there is a rule that if there are only 2 horses out then the other horse has to be brought in at the same time. Could the other horse have been panicking that he was going to be left out on his own?

Our YO always brings the other horse in, she wouldn't expect a livery to do so whether a well behaved horse or not.

If there were other horses out still then if this behaviour is the norm your YO needs to sort something out before someone gets hurt. He or she could end up liable otherwise.

Whatever the circumstances you were right to do whatever it took to send the other horse away in this dangerous situation.
 
While i'm against hitting a horse safety does aways come first.

Dont worry about it, its no good doing things properly when your about to get kicked in the face
 
You are a horse beater, you shouldn't handle horses, ima call the RSPCA and you will be sued
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Nah, from what you have said, at home, and on HHO, it sounds like you acted right in the situation! How dare the little brat threaten to hit you if you touch her horse again! Oh yeah, silly me! her sister is looking after it because she it sh!t scared of it!
 
You did the right thing. You have to show you are higher up the pecking order. Hitting it with a rope wont hurt that much, if you had been another horse you would probably have kicked or bitten the unruley horse, that would have hurt more!

We never leave a horse alone in the field at our yard, we always bring the last one in.
Would the unruley horse been alone once you removed your friends horse?
Yoy can understand his concern if he was to be alone but thats no excuse for that behavour.
 
Your hardly a horse beater lol, its not acceptable behaviour rearing up at people as its very dangerous however next time I'd make a point of catching the horses when there in a less playful mood, if this horse is making a habit of doing this, as in dominating/aggressive behaviour then it needs to be trained out of the horses asap which is the owners responsibility, specially when other liveries are coming and out with there own horses.
 
I would have done the same. Horses need to learn that we are the boss, not them.
Niagara bit me once, When I first got him, he had never bitten anyone then he bit my arm when I was leading him out for a hack. I took my whip full of rage and smacked him right on his shoulder. He would never dream of doing it again. That was three years ago.
I felt so bad for doing it at the time I went and apologized to him.

You did the right thing!
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My horses are out with 18 others in a big field. A few are largely unhandled (whole other thread there!) and they tend to congregate by the gate in Winter. I often wave a headcollar to get them to move away and, if it was a question of safety, I would not think twice about giving a horse a smack. My poor mum got stomped on the other day by the gate, my mare is bottom of the pile and often the more unhandled horses try and go for her. When they are rugged they would barely feel it anyway. Ideally every horse would be well mannered but unfortunately it is not on the top of every owner's list. You have to look after yourself!
 
Of course you did the right thing. It never ceases to amaze me how some people will tolerate their horses doing all manner of things from kicking their doors, biting people when they walk past their stable, to barging through stable doors. You have to be cruel to be kind, lets face it; if that horse had made contact with your head you wouldn't be around now to tell the tale. Horses should not threaten you, ever, not in the field, not in the stable, anywhere, ever - period. That horse sounds like a very domineering horse and you should be very wary of it. Horses can and do kill. I would always from this day on take a schooling whip with you into the field should the horse launch another attack on you.
 
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