I'm about to buy this horse - do i need paper work?

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Hi guys and girls

This is my first time buying a horse and I am not sure what I need in terms of paper work or whether a witness should be there or anthing really - can you please give me some advice on what I should do please?

Here is some piccies of him his name is Ferzao aka Fergal he is an ex racehorse 11yo 16hh gelding he is so well mannered, lovely safe ride and so chilled I have had him on loan for a month and he is settled and really the best horse for me so I am 100 per cent sure about buying him - hope you like him


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me on fergal - pullin a right face lol

and pics below are his old owner last year
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He has been fired and has rainscald but he is looking in nice condition already and I need to work out a fitness plan for him as he hasn't been in work for ages, I have been doing walk and trot on the roads so far don't want to push him just yet hehe

Any advice is welcome please

Thanks Amber
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I trust you are going to have him vetted?
He should have a pasport already which I would have wanted to look over, which you should receive upon ownership.

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passport, vaccination record check both to ensure details are what they have told you and get a receipt for the sale detailing what they have sold him as and the price, date etc.

Can I ask what you are paying for him.
 
Im sure you will have loads of fun together.

As for paperwork....make sure that you get a written receipt for him when you hand over your money. It should have his name, a description of the horse, your name and address and the vendors name and address on as well as the amount of money paid. Get the vendor to sign it (in your presence) to say they have received the money.

Also you must get the horses passport, make sure the description and markings apply to the horse you are buying. It should have details of his routine injections in so make sure they are up to date. You will need this if you plan to travel him home (its a requirement now) so dont be fobbed off if the vendor says they are going to send it on to you or they cannot find it. Although its not illegal to BUY a horse with no passport it IS illegal to sell one without (go figure that!).

Make sure you have insurance cover in place BEFORE you travel the horse home. If the worst happened on the journey......it does happen.

Anyhow, Im sure you will get loads of helpful advice here and we all like to know how people are getting on so keep posting!
 
paying £800 including a wug rug, velour show rug, bridle, stirrups, numnah etc no saddle though

wasnt going to get him vetted no cos the woman is ina hurry for cash and it is genuine reason and he is soo cheap

duno if i can get a vet at such short notice

how much is vettin normally?


the way i see it for how well behaved he is and he is such a star he is worth every penny and i have already haggled the price down 200 quid
 
A vet should be able to fit you in within a day or so. Even that cheap I would get a vetting which should be I think between £100 & £200 if I remember correctly. It could save you a lot of future expense and heartbreak if there is something wrong with him.
 
He's had two years of from racing there in the middle of his career-so he has prob had leg trouble hence why he has had his legs fired.
It only takes a few days to arrange a vetting- just for peace of mind.
Dont forget that this is an exracehorse and they can have an absolute wealth of things wrong with them- racing is bloody tough on them physically-epescially when they race from 2 year olds- oh sorry I forget, they start training them at 17 months old
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so it is a good idea to have a 5 stage vetting which is about £200 depending on where abouts you are.
Not to say there is anything wrong your boy but you dont want to end up with £1000's of vets bills a few months down the line.
 
I would def go for a vetting, he may be cheap but you could end uo spending thousands if he has a condition you are not aware of
 
That's good - was going to say that you should be aware that TB's can take alot of settling in - some are as good as gold!

What history do you want? I thought that you had his race name etc?
 
yeah I mean his history from the vets I was wandering if whetherbys can possibly tell me something about him?

apparently whetherbys took his passport off him so he wouldnt be raced again

i know he had time off with tendon trouble
 
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I've never heard of them doing that. If you get your vet to draw his markings you can get another passport from Weatherbys. I've done this before and it cost around 70 pounds (so a bit expensive)
I don't think Weatherbys will be able to tell you about health/other issues.
 
There's a girl on my yard who's horse has tendon problems - you could be taking on a whole world of pain.

I don't want to be negative but definately get a vetting - you haven't owned him in the winter and he could have all sorts of trouble in the cold if he's got dodgy joints!

A vetting is good because they'll point out all the possible areas of weakness so that you're aware and can make an informed decision.

He may only cost £800 but he'll cost you a whole lot more if his tendon goes!
 
He NEEDS to have a passport. The owner should have one and it will have been issued by one of the PIO offices (if you look on the DEFRA website you should find a great long list of PIO's). It doesnt need to be from Weatherbys. You really do need a vetting and I would use the £200 you knocked off the price to pay for that.

TBH I have to say....no vetting no horse, and no passport no horse.

Hope all goes well for you both.
 
you really really need to get the horse vetted before you buy it, prefereably a 5 stage vetting aswel especially as he is an ex racer who has obivously had leg problems in the past. It is well worth the money in the long run, trust me.
 
Just read about the passport - be very very careful.

My boy was passportless - turned out he is blind in his right eye. Even though it wouldn't have detailed that in his passport, with his race name I could have traced history and possibly found out about it prior to purchase.

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Sorry, but that sounds like a load of bollocks to me.I'm pretty sure they can't take away the passport as it is a legal requirement for him to have it. Makes it seem very suspicious. Get him vetted.
 
He really does look like a lovely horse but I have alarm bells going off.
Please listen to the experienced people on this forum who have seen it all before.
Firstly get him vetted. Be aware that he has had tendon trouble and as such you won't be able to get insurance cover on his tendons. It is quite possible that in the future you will end up with a lame horse and will either have to spend thousands in vets fees or the heartbreaking decision to put him to sleep.
Also he must have a passport with him when he is sold, it is illegal for the owners to sell him without one and would just add to my already high doubts about him.
I do hope things go well for you whatever you decide.
 
He looks lovely.

I have to echo the others here though - something doesn't quite sound right.

Get the 5 stage vetting done & ask the vet to pay particular attention to his tendons as these will be excluded from any insurance policy you take out.

Weatherby's do not ask for passports back - they have no say over whether the horse races again anyway so that seems a bit odd to me.

Horses who have been fired can come back to be perfectly sound & continue perfectly normal lives but it is a weakness that needs to be looked at
 
also depends what you want to do - if you want to jump etc then a horse with tendon injuries may not be the answer.

I know that you've got attached but honestly, you need to look at this in the cold light of day rather than get seen off and end up with a horse you can't ride.

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why not ring wetherbys with his racing name, and see what they have got to say....

a horse shouldnt have two passports, so it would appear this one has, his weatherbys one, lost or not, and the other one...
 
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yeah I mean his history from the vets I was wandering if whetherbys can possibly tell me something about him?

apparently whetherbys took his passport off him so he wouldnt be raced again

i know he had time off with tendon trouble

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There is NO way that Weatherbys would take his passport off him; they might have 'franked' it with some mark or other but would not have taken it from him. This sounds very fishy to me, I do urge you to get it checked out. An ex racehorse should not have any other passport than his Weatherbys one certainly not a 'pet' one, which will have his racing history in (only when and where he raced, not how he did)
When you have him vetted, get them to take blood, this can be tested so you know he's who they say he is and also whether he's been on any medication to mask anything.

He's lovely but do tread carefully even though he seems like a bargain.
 
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