I'm calling it a day :(

Poor you SLH. I am so sorry you have had this on top of the tragedy of losing your daughter.

You are right to sell. I have persevered for a while with horses who were too much for my age and confidence (old and low respectively!) but the relief when I admitted this and sold them or gave them away was immense.

I also would not be surprised if your tragedy has contributed to this. Not comparable at all I know, but when I had a sudden break up of a long term relationship I fell off 3 horses that week, not having fallen off for a couple of years before then. I think emotional upset can have very significant ramifications.

Just be completely honest in your ad, someone will want and love your boy. I tried sales livery with one of mine and it didn't work - he came back rather poor after 4 months of expensive livery and no sale. So do your homework very well!

I do wish you all the best for your recovery. There are saintly kind horses out there, I found one, so don't give up.

Hugs x x
 
SatansLittleHelper said:
Horse walked out in hand for 45 mins, really good with the traffic, only spook was at a cyclist who whizzed past. He had a look at some of the bigger traffic but nothing major. Then I got on and he bucked me off. Most of the day in casualty after landing on my head and shoulder to discover I have broken my thumb/hand and ankle...go figure.
I've come to the decision that, although I love this horse with every beat of my heart, that we are just not right for each other. I don't have the experience and competence he needs and I cannot mentally or physically commit to keeping up with the work he needs. So I've come to the conclusion he needs to be sold and I need a sane and safe horse that I can regain my confidence in and have fun with.
If there is anyone who would be willing to help me word an ad and with pricing I would very much appreciate your help.
By a broken hearted (and broken boned!!) Me ������������
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I sympathies with you , my situation is different I got bucked of mine twice and sustained broken humerus and damaged back and major bruising and told by physio I should be 6 ft under with my injuries.

My problem is it was not his fault his back was swollen and damaged. Just for the record have you had the back checked as this what my boy did, I sat on him 15 secs and he was off bronking.



Have you thought about preloved adverts as there are many good ones in there you could copy. The ad is it to sell yours or buy another??
 
AdorableAlice said:
I am so sorry to hear you are battered and broken. It is something I fear now I am older and weaker. Will I ever have the courage to get on board Ted, I am not so sure.

If I remember correctly your lad is a big strong type too. Personally I would not use the term 'project' in the advert. I feel it conveys the message of mad, bad and dangerous.

I would pay someone to get him hacking out and capable of doing basic circles and shapes in the school and then advertise him as a young horse ready to go on and see hounds. The reason for sale is simple, he is too much horse for your needs. Don't under price him, make sure the photos are good ones. You will soon know if any potential purchasers are novices by the questions they will ask you so no need to say no time wasters or novices.
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Excellent advice! OP, I would go with that.

Take care while your bones heal and then, as it will be a while before you can ride again, I suggest a few sessions on a mechanical horse, if there is one near you and some confidence building RS lessons before you start your search for Steady Eddie.
 
It's heartbreaking but you're doing the right thing as I've been through it. Bought mine last April and sold him early January to a lovely lady who was fully aware of the problems I had had with him and was waaaay braver than me! After hitting the road twice, hitting the school floor twice and finding any excuse not to get on and generally finding a morning at the yard a chore rather than an enjoyable hobby I pay a lot for, I realised it was not meant to be and I wasn't enjoying it any more. Now after making a loss on him, trying to scrimp and save for a safe all rounder that I can enjoy again!

Some partnerships are just not meant to be!
 
I had an accident and fractured my spine. I had to give up the lovely sharp sports horses and project horses I used to have. I miss them, but I know I just cant physically ride them anymore, no matter what my head tells me. But dont think you have to get a kick along plod. There are lots of horses that are safe and easy, who are forgiving of nerves etc and wouldnt ever drop you deliberately. So while its heartbreaking giving your youngster up, and believe me, I know how that feels! Just because you cant manage a sharp youngster, dont think your resigned to a plod. I know thats not why you posted, but I felt compelled to reply as I went through a similar traumatic experience with life and the horses. There is a lovely horse out there for you, that will love living out and will love being ridden as and when it suits you :)
 
It's an expensive way to be unhappy.

I loved my old horse, although he never injured me we just didn't get on, he scared me and I couldn't build my confidence. I rehomed him and bought myself a lovely pony via word of mouth and have not looked back, I did lose my confidence with her at the start of the year but it came back, that's the sign of the right horse.

Horses are meant to be fun and a stress relief.
 
Sorry to read that things didn't go well.

I had a horse four years and then ended up selling him due to loss of confidence. It happens and only you know how you feel about him. Sometimes horses aren't the right ones for us and recognizing that and finding a new owner is the best thing for both of you.

I hope your bones heal quickly and that you find the right person for your horse.
 
Many of us have been there don't worry. I would not want a bucking horse to be sold on though with out a "proper" rider giving it a go to make sure it is you not the horse if that makes sense?

As for the confidence, there is a good fb group going called confident riders that is very supportive.
 
If I was you I would think about cutting my losses. Put an add up like this Title: Smashing Coloured Gelding. "Beautiful coloured gelding with lovely paces. Fabulous horse broken but left off to mature. Now ready to be brought on - will go far in the right hands. Experienced, knowledgable home a must."Sell him from the field if you have to and let that be an end to it. You can explain all on the phone.... if you're not too stuck for money just sell for €1,000 and let someone suitable get to grips with him. You must be heartbroken and frankly don't need the hassle of all this. Just let him on to someone who can deal with him and allow yourself the space to deal with your grief, as you completely deserve and need. My advice, for what it is worth.
 
Send him away to a professional to give him a chance in life. They should identify his problems and hopefully sort them out. He can then be sold with a clear conscience. If they can't sort him out then it's up to you- field ornament or PTS . He needs to go to the right person otherwise he will spend the rest of his life being pushed from owner to owner. Ankle injuries are very serious. Good luck with it, I hope it heals well.
 
Right. This post has really annoyed me. HUGELY. If someone asks for help, can posters read it and reply nicely or NOT bother. Or take the time to clarify the situation. Please can we have a lot less of this immediate jumping down this posters throat and not once was there any mention of palming the horse off and lying.

It's hardly a problem horse. It's young, been backed, been put down and is pushing its boundaries coming back which OP is not currently able to deal with.

I am ashamed how unsupportive this board has been with some notable exceptions. This lady has just had the worst tragedy to deal with as well.

OP, if the horse is not right for you, then send him to sales livery and find one you enjoy. Nearly every horse needs regular consistent work, particularly a youngster and it is unfair to say that they are a problem when this is not the case for them. I had a super mare who was sold as a bit of a handful and tricky at times. To me, she was 100% straightforward and safe because we gelled. To another person she was a feisty mare who would boil over easily. I have sold horses on that I did not get on with and feel safe on as well. Life really is too short, as you, sadly, know only too well.
 
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I don't have much to offer in regards to selling your horse other than well done for recognising that you & your horse aren't working out. It seems that sales livery would be the best option.

I did want to say how terribly sorry I am for the loss of your daughter, I cannot imagine how you get up in the morning. I think you are incredibly brave and strong and I really hope you're heart heals. I hope you don't mind me posting this, but I'm sending enormous hugs xx
 
Luci07 said:
Right. This post has really annoyed me. HUGELY. If someone asks for help, can posters read it and reply nicely or NOT bother. Or take the time to clarify the situation. Please can we have a lot less of this immediate jumping down this posters throat and not once was there any mention of palming the horse off and lying.

It's hardly a problem horse. It's young, been backed, been put down and is pushing its boundaries coming back which OP is not currently able to deal with.

I am ashamed how unsupportive this board has been with some notable exceptions. This lady has just had the worst tragedy to deal with as well.

OP, if the horse is not right for you, then send him to sales livery and find one you enjoy. Nearly every horse needs regular consistent work, particularly a youngster and it is unfair to say that they are a problem when this is not the case for them. I had a super mare who was sold as a bit of a handful and tricky at times. To me, she was 100% straightforward and safe because we gelled. To another person she was a feisty mare who would boil over easily. I have sold horses on that I did not get on with and feel safe on as well. Life really is too short, as you, sadly, know only too well.
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So true. Someone said he might need PTS because he bucked someone off? C'mon! My youngster went away for breaking, came back, a friend rode him a few times, I got on him the next day and he bucked me off. I never wanted to ride him again and he is out on loan, I didn't need to sell him financially and I bred him so wanted to retain ownership. Yes he has a stonking buck and yes he has buried his loanee as well but she is young and brave and adores him.
The OP is having the sort of year that God willing most of us will never have to deal with, could we do a little bit supportive here? I acknowledge most people have been.
 
Agree with Luci07, the OP needs support and understanding, not condemning!

As for calls to pts - really? A young horse that has bucked after being mounted for the first time in a while and you'd shoot it?

There are far worse for sale in the market, and if a prospective buyer isn't prepared to work with a young recently backed horse without the occasional hiccup then they shouldn't be buying.

OP, you are doing the right thing. I wish you luck in finding a more suitable quiet type and I know that you'll be careful about the home your current horse goes to.
 
Op it is a hard and brave choice.

I know, I have been there! I was the type of person who would ride anything, not a fear in the world. Till I met my match. We just completely didn't click, I had a few sore falls to the point where my dressage instructor ( and mum!) told me not to get on him again. Perfectly healthy, no pain - just 700kgs of horse who knew how to get the better of me. I sent him away to sales livery, as I couldn't ride him to show him off to any potential buyers. It was the best decision. He was there a month or so, they rode him and hacked him often, and found a nice new home.

I then bought a horse, who is an absolute angel. I was told that his previous owner had became a bit wary of him. Turns out she had a bad fall and damaged her pelvis from him. For me, he is an absolute one in a million. Cannot fault in in the slightes. Hacks alone easily, forward flashy and fun. I could go on all day about how wonderful he is. Just goes to show that what is the wrong horse for someone, can be perfect for someone else :)
 
Brave choice OP. Not everyone can bring on a newly backed horse. If morpeople admitted this then there wouldn't be so many messed up youngsters out there.

I'm sure you will find him a great home and then find an equine friend more suited to your needs so that you can both have fun :)

Some people on this board need a wake up call in how to let people live their own lives.
 
Luci07 said:
Right. This post has really annoyed me. HUGELY. If someone asks for help, can posters read it and reply nicely or NOT bother. Or take the time to clarify the situation. Please can we have a lot less of this immediate jumping down this posters throat and not once was there any mention of palming the horse off and lying.

It's hardly a problem horse. It's young, been backed, been put down and is pushing its boundaries coming back which OP is not currently able to deal with.

I am ashamed how unsupportive this board has been with some notable exceptions. This lady has just had the worst tragedy to deal with as well.

OP, if the horse is not right for you, then send him to sales livery and find one you enjoy. Nearly every horse needs regular consistent work, particularly a youngster and it is unfair to say that they are a problem when this is not the case for them. I had a super mare who was sold as a bit of a handful and tricky at times. To me, she was 100% straightforward and safe because we gelled. To another person she was a feisty mare who would boil over easily. I have sold horses on that I did not get on with and feel safe on as well. Life really is too short, as you, sadly, know only too well.
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Exactly, a young horse, ready to be brought on, not a human killer, no need to put a life story in the ad, a competent rider required, as any young horse would need to be brought on, fair play op, your doing the right thing. Agreed sales livery, price would be the going rate for his breeding/ability.
 
The objection is to the suggestion (not by the OP but by another poster) that the horse be sold as it was backed, that went well and it has since not been sat on and to omit any mention at all of needing an experienced restarter- which would lead to a number of unsuitable buyers applying.
If someone posted on here they had just bought a horse, not knowing, been bucked off and then discovered the same thing had happened before what would be said hmm?
V. unscrupulous and the fact people would suggest it is beyond me.
Sending it to sales livery or getting it going then selling - fine but you can see how people selling a truely just back horse get a bad name as people lie about whether a horse has been tried when in fact they have a broken bone to show for it...
 
Sorry- to clarify - I would have no issue with not mentioning it if the horse was brought on a bit and proven not to be consistant with bucking everyone off, and I think that is the option, either bring it on a bit more, via sales livery or paying someone,
or sell as just backed, too much for current owner (disclosing the fact of the bucking) and that's fine too.
 
touchstone said:
Agree with Luci07, the OP needs support and understanding, not condemning!

As for calls to pts - really? A young horse that has bucked after being mounted for the first time in a while and you'd shoot it?

There are far worse for sale in the market, and if a prospective buyer isn't prepared to work with a young recently backed horse without the occasional hiccup then they shouldn't be buying.

OP, you are doing the right thing. I wish you luck in finding a more suitable quiet type and I know that you'll be careful about the home your current horse goes to.
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No. Didn't suggest that at all. Needs to go to a professional to give it best chance and find out why it is bucking. It needs to be assessed in the first instance bearing in mind that it has caused serious injury, and a broken ankle is a serious injury. Horse may just be young and fresh or may have other issues. Have seen too many horses go as projects to people who think they can, when they really don't have the knowledge and experience, and end up being sold on and on.
 
wingedhorse said:
I would say in an advert.

Nice kind genuine young horse, backed and successfully doing X, Y, Z. Turned away over the winter and until recently. Owner’s circumstances have changed, and with no facilities and no support owner lacks confidence to bring him back in work. Owner tried to ride him straight from the field, which was not a success partly due to owner’s lack of confidence and experience. He will need re-starting but the correct foundations are there. Happy to share the contact details of the professional backers that started him for references that he was well started.



I would share details of your injuries with any callers that seem suitable. Failure to be fully open would carry risks of comeback against you. You need to declare that he injured you. I would go so far as to include it in the sales not. The buyer is aware that the horse injured his previous owner, and is buying him knowing this.
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If you dont go the sales livery route then the above seems very sensible. there is a temptation to say disclose what happened only when people enquire but with the above course of action you have the advert to produce should someone come back with a complaint (or god forbid threaten legal action) you dont have that back up if you discuss it on the phone, it becomes a 'she said, he said' situation

There is nothing to say that the horse will prove difficult when with a new owner but it pays to be honest on paper. Dont feel bad for what has happened, trust me it will be a tremendous relief when the horse has gone and you can evaluate your horsey future with a clear head

Good luck with it
 
lamlyn2012 said:
No. Didn't suggest that at all. Needs to go to a professional to give it best chance and find out why it is bucking. It needs to be assessed in the first instance bearing in mind that it has caused serious injury, and a broken ankle is a serious injury. Horse may just be young and fresh or may have other issues. Have seen too many horses go as projects to people who think they can, when they really don't have the knowledge and experience, and end up being sold on and on.
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And I still think you are being over dramatic, a young horse having a buck isn't unusual, regardless of the unfortunate injuries the op has received. I know someone who broke an ankle tripping over a duvet and another who broke both legs tripping over a kerb, so I don't see the relevance there. The op doesn't has admitted she is overhorsed and sending the horse to sales livery, where any potential issues would be likely to come to light anyway. If she was simply sending it off to the sales without making sure it went to the right home I think you might have a point, but the op is doing nothing wrong in my view.
 
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If you dont go the sales livery route then the above seems very sensible. there is a temptation to say disclose what happened only when people enquire but with the above course of action you have the advert to produce should someone come back with a complaint (or god forbid threaten legal action) you dont have that back up if you discuss it on the phone, it becomes a 'she said, he said' situation


Good luck with it
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There is nothing to stop you from putting it on the sales receipts (that the buyer has been informed that the horse was too much for the seller to bring back into work and had bucked them off) so you can have it in writing without having the full details in the ad itself. One copy of the receipt for the buyer and one for the seller, signed by both parties and dated.

I have no doubts that SLH will be completely honest and that finding the right home for her beloved youngster is very important to her.
 
I just feel I need to reiterate that the horse is a youngster and it's MY fault I got bucked off, not his. I make a rookie error and paid the price. However, this has also made me come to that sad conclusion that I just don't have the experience or facilities needed to bring him on.
I love him so very much and will be 110% honest in his sale because I care too much not to be. The right home is the very most important thing for my boy x
 
Hes just not the horse for you, sometimes it takes a wee while to realise that, but hes probably just what someone else is looking for, no defeat, just not the one.
It might be worth putting him on a sales livery somewhere, itll take the pressure off you while you heal and in the selling, it'll give him a better chance of being picked up by someone who's right for him
 
OP not a lot to add on the sales front, but wishing you all the best for your recovery.

I too am shocked at people's reaction. One buck and it's a dangerous horse!? I think people are confusing this thread with another current one regarding the sale of am actual dangerous horse.

He sounds like a sweetie, I'm sure you'll find someone who will love him as much as you, and have the confidence to bring him on.

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SusieT said:
' Your boy was sent away to be backed, wasn't he? I would say this in your ad, perhaps say he has been turned away since and you are looking for someone knowledgeable to continue his education..'

Unbelievable that this is what people would consider doing. Bucked off and broken bones and try and sell it as a just backed and turned away horse.. That's why people don't believe the honest people who say this!
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This^^
Please just be honest when you sell. I know of a horse that was sent away to a VERY experienced trainer. Had a habit of flipping over backwards. Owner didn't EVEN TELL the trainer....trainer despite best efforts was not given this info and ended up crushed with life changing injuries. Always be honest :)

From what you say I think most experienced riders with confidence and experience with buckers would have no problem with your horse.
 
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