I'm gonnae kill him...

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Please please please someone with behaviourist expertise come back to me with some advice before I kill Merly. He's doing my nut in with his fighting!!!!

My min poodle came to me last August at ten months old (he's now about 22 months old). He's neutered and he was socialised within a pack where he was bottom of the pecking order. He started picking on my border terrier chester, who by his own rights, can be a bit of a fighter himself. However, I have been observing very carefully and it's not him that's starting the fights! He is a very sociable dog, loves meeting new ones. I never worry about him having a go when he meets new dogs. Nor do I worry about him with people. He's very loving normally, but he is agressive with my older two dogs! This started about a week after he arrived with us, but then stopped for ages. There had been no fights for easily six months or so...until....

Two weeks ago we were on holiday in a rented house. Merlin really stepped over the line on the first night there - he attacked -- I mean really attacked! my old girl - a 15 1/2 year old minature pinscher - over her chew treat. They all got one, but as she's not got many teeth, she's slower to consume hers. He must have been hawking her like always does, and suddenly right behind me I heard this fighting commotion - thought it was the usual suspects, Chester and Merlin. But I saw Merlin pinning her to the ground, her neck in his mouth and he was shaking her like a rag doll!!!! So broke the fight up, gave him a telling off and sent him outside with my husband before I did something I might regret.

Last night he was at it again. This time there was no food or toys - but I was not long in the door. My husband had been in for a bit and I was speaking to him and saying hello to the dogs. I had to keep shoving Merlin back who wouldn't let me say hello to the other two (he shoulders in and knocks everyone else flying cos he wants all the attention for himself). I usually refuse to speak or touch him when he does this, just wait til he's sitting patiently and then make a huge fuss. However, yesterday I had to physically remove him from my lap as he was being so bolshy.

Two minutes later, he and Chester went galloping off down the hall together. Chester tripped and fell over and Merlin went in for the kill - grabbing him by the throat and started shaking his head! Chester was screaming his head off (such a wooos for a Border Terrier...) but it was still really disturbing. I went down the hall, grabbed Merlin off Chester, but Merlin was locked on and I literall ended up picking Chester up by Merlin's TEETH! Got him loose, told him off and sent him outside by himself.

WHAT THE HELL DO I DO?!?! I probably will ring my behaviourst guy that has helped me in the past with Chester. But I would love some advice in the mean time! Things that I have done have been to make sure he's bottom of the pack - he's fed last, he's in the doorways last. He is the last one to be spoken to when I come in.
 
My friend has a dog that randomly attacks her other 2 dogs so I will ask her what she has been doing to stop it as she has been visiting a behaviourist also.

If you find out how to stop the jealous bolshie, knock everyone else flying behaviour PLEASE LET ME KNOW! My border collie does it whenever touch my other two (or any other dog) or even if I talk to them!!!! It’s so frustrating!
 
It is the usual triggers that sees him turn i.e food, excitement and jelousy (poss nit interpruted this way by him) but def is when you are paying attention to the others.
I would firstly set a new routine for the meeting and greeting when you arrive home and by pass the excitment greeting stage, have them all calm, so come home no talk, no touch, jsut walk on through and ignore any over selous jumping or begging for attention, instead mke the new routine that everytime you come home let them out in the garden, then let them back in 5 mins later when everything has settled, if you want to sneak in a stroke or cuddle to the oldies do so as you have locked the fiesty ones out, otherwsie keep the routine the same for all, then simply pay them attention by having them all sit and give a treat one at at time as they come in.
Give strokes out when everything has settled and is calm and you are in a better positon to reprimand the fiestly one (i.e push him down) or remove him from the room for 5 minutes at a time until he realises he only stays in when he is calm, try to limit any over excited attention you give him and impliment any other changes you are not happy i.e training with him.
Food for a pack is a def no no, when you are not there, if you are and you want to give it do so, if he gets greedy, you reprimand him firmly and send him for time out, otherwise if you have crates use them for treats or seperate them or stay with them and teach them manners, a smacked bottom wont do any harm either.

Teach him some manners if he is pushy in any area, and ignore him in any desperate attempts to dominate your attention.
 
My friend has a dog that randomly attacks her other 2 dogs so I will ask her what she has been doing to stop it as she has been visiting a behaviourist also.

If you find out how to stop the jealous bolshie, knock everyone else flying behaviour PLEASE LET ME KNOW! My border collie does it whenever touch my other two (or any other dog) or even if I talk to them!!!! It’s so frustrating!

Again try to expel and over exciting greeting and encouraging to much excitement in any scenario with all dogs, entering the home msut be a peaceful process, by creating excitment you are creating kaos "hi guys mammy is home, hi babies (stroke,pat,cuddle) dog thing yeah, pile on and jsut around like a loon:rolleyes:, come home, ignore and let outside, the excitment of your entering is over with, you can calmaly treat or stroke when they are back in from the garden in a low key manor, begin to block all attempts of over excitemnt in all areas by point blanc ignoring the attempts, no talk,no touch, no eye contact at these times, and if said dog pushes it, then take his collar, and remove to another room, repeat this until he gets the gist he only stays when he is calm and setles, when he is calm then a quick calm stroke or treat is enough of a reward, if you do choose to stroke him, so so on your terms and stop wheneer you like, if he pushes for more ignore completely, he will go off and settle if he does not get what he wants.
 
Ps, I canot advise the fed last, through the door last thing, I ecomend you become a leader and all commands, reprmands, treats and rules come from you and he will learn to obey otherwsie there is consiquence.
I have never had fighting with my lot and I never make one more dominant or one bottom of the pack, there is jsut me and them.
 
Thanks Cayla, other than the routine change (ie putting them out and removing from the room etc) I do most of these things anyway - but sort of in a wishy washy way - I suppose I need to be more disciplined in this area (at least for the time being til the rat bag chills). I'll give it a go and see how we get on. He's just so full of joy and he makes his own fun, but sometimes to the detriment of the others if you know what I mean. I'm thinking about starting to bring him to work with me again. It's not so much that I don't trust him at home with the others, but thinking he needs to be tired out a bit more? I can occupy his mind in little bits at a time from the salon...but at home he has free access to my house/garden for the day wheras in the salon he is crated all day until I let him out here and there (either for a pee break in the back courty yard, or on the table for grooming etc).

Any thoughts?

:)
 
Have started a new stricter regime round the house. Dogs think they've gone to boot camp. LOL

Meanwhile, my grooming mentor (who has had poodles for 30 odd years and is a judge etc) said that she was walking her dogs off lead in a park. A woman was coming toward her with a staffie. Agnes put her dogs on leads and the woman said that she shouldn't worry, her dog woulnd't hurt her wee dogs (all miniatures). To which Agnes replied that she wasn't worried about the staffie, but if it happened to so much as glance at the poodles the wrong way, they'd tear the staffie limb from limb! Oh my.....

I'm beginning to think a pack of poodles is more like a school of pirranah! Who needs a bull breed to have street cred! Tell ya what, I think I'll be putting Merlin in his favorite pink feather boa and poncing off to see if we can find the dog fighting ring for any takers! (KIDDING KIDDING KIDDING!!!).
 
Have started a new stricter regime round the house. Dogs think they've gone to boot camp. LOL

Meanwhile, my grooming mentor (who has had poodles for 30 odd years and is a judge etc) said that she was walking her dogs off lead in a park. A woman was coming toward her with a staffie. Agnes put her dogs on leads and the woman said that she shouldn't worry, her dog woulnd't hurt her wee dogs (all miniatures). To which Agnes replied that she wasn't worried about the staffie, but if it happened to so much as glance at the poodles the wrong way, they'd tear the staffie limb from limb! Oh my.....

I'm beginning to think a pack of poodles is more like a school of pirranah! Who needs a bull breed to have street cred! Tell ya what, I think I'll be putting Merlin in his favorite pink feather boa and poncing off to see if we can find the dog fighting ring for any takers! (KIDDING KIDDING KIDDING!!!).

Mini poodles are most definitely wolves in sheeps clothing!:D
 
LOL, you guys make me laugh.

I seem to get all the ASBO animals - maybe there's a reason for that. Bad bad mummy.
 
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