I'm never ever having horses again

Vizslak, can you send me some photos/vidoes of him?
I am a long way away (Norfolk)!! But he sounds like my sort of horse. I have a Welsh Section D who only I ride, who has taken me years to get going properly from when I bought him as a 3 year old stallion (he used to be very difficult on the ground etc) but he is now a star for me!

If I can't help myself I will pass the word around.
e-mail - herbieandhugo@gmail.com

Thanks
Emma
 
I remember your original posts when you took the brave decision to have your other two pts and thought you dealt with it all with great courage and dignity and am really sorry you are struggling to find your other horse a loan home.

Please could someone tell me where all these people are who are so desperate for companion horses/ponies???? I thought that most people who wanted a companion would usually go for a more economical small hardy pony rather than a higher maintenance horse and if these companions are so in demand why are the rescue centres full to bursting??
 
I have a small hardy pony for loan as a companion & no-one wants him either!! He can be ridden but is only for a very competant, confident rider - small adult really - and none of them want a 12.2hh!! He has had four loan homes in the past 2yrs & 3 of those he has been returned from due to children parting company with him! I cannot now loan him if anyone has any intention of letting kids ride him. It's very sad because he's a brilliant little chap & I think he could be amazing given the chance :( I will not sell for the same reasons as the OP. Luckily he's cheap to keep! His main problem is he has chronic sweet itch & if he's not properly maintained he gets VERY bad tempered. At home he's kept on a cattle farm with no problems though! I totally get where OP is coming from, its a heartbreaking decision but if push came to shove with him i'd PTS rather than risk him ending up in a bad place, or equally being passed on & hurting a rider. I really hope you find a brilliant home for you boy. Good luck
 
RDO said:
Someone who doesn't keep 3 horses for whatever reason then kill them for the lols when they run out of money!....
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i think that is one of the most cruel things i've read on here. :mad: why would you say that to someone?

i remember reading about V's situation last year and the heartbreak she faced in having to have 2 of her horses PTS due to her dramatic change in circumstances. If i recall correctly one was 30ish & had some health problems and the other was unrideable due to injury. i dont for one moment think the decision was one made lightly, but was one made with the welfare and interests of the horses in the forefront of her mind.

She has hung on to the 3rd for as long as she could. She knows the horse, we dont. I don't see her wanting to loan it out because no-one but her could manage him, rather that she doesnt want him passed pillar to post when a new owner decides they cant cope with his quirks after all. How many people promise a new horse or pony a home for life when they buy them, only to sell them on at a later date.

It would be a terrible shame if the horse was pts, but at least she would have the comfort of knowing his fate.

Vislak - im sorry i cant help with your situation but hope you find a loaner for your boy in the next weeks
 
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Someone who doesn't keep 3 horses for whatever reason then kill them for the lols when they run out of money! Seriously though, although i do feel bad for her "changing circumstances", whatever those may be, what the hell is the op doing considering pts a, in her words; "good looking, excellent jumper, excellent show horse, now reformed on the ground horse". Sounds like a bloody brilliant prospect and I think it's pure vanity on the op's part that no one else could take care of her quirky horse!

Having recently acquired a quirky horse which turned out to be a total star, in spite of the fact someone with limited knowledge (i.e. Me) bought him, I think most of this kind of talk is crap.
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Disgraceful. Really, you, RDO, should be very ashamed of yourself. I am not saying anything else.

V, I feel for you. You appear to me to be a very responsible and caring owner, who is doing the best for your horse. I have great respect for you x
 
RDO said:
Someone who doesn't keep 3 horses for whatever reason then kill them for the lols when they run out of money! Seriously though, although i do feel bad for her "changing circumstances", whatever those may be, what the hell is the op doing considering pts a, in her words; "good looking, excellent jumper, excellent show horse, now reformed on the ground horse". Sounds like a bloody brilliant prospect and I think it's pure vanity on the op's part that no one else could take care of her quirky horse!

Having recently acquired a quirky horse which turned out to be a total star, in spite of the fact someone with limited knowledge (i.e. Me) bought him, I think most of this kind of talk is crap.
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You are something else... shame on you.

V - I'm in Somerset, I'll ask around today - off to a show near Bath and will have my ear to the ground. I'll ask BRC sec aswell and see if she knows of anyone horse hunting.
 
I also remember that the two that Vizlak had to have PTS were quite a bonded pair and given the circumstances it was best they went together. I think it was very brave of her. God forbid that any of us should have to face that decision with our horses, I have been close myself and I know the stomach churning feeling when you think you might have to face it and go through it. People can be so very judgemental.

Good luck with finding a home for your boy.
 
V- I hope you do find a suitable home for your boy , but , as wrong as it may seem , having him PTS is not the worst thing that could happen. I feel sick when i see ads for horses in their 20 's just because they've become old , or need medical attention , at least you've got the Bo****ks to look at this situation for the good of your boy. not all horses are destinined to live into old age , some through illness some have horrific accident or are neglected and unloved , at least you know from begining to end your boy has had your love , time and respect , no-one can ask for more in their lives , however long that turns out to be. Take strengh from the positive posts.
 
RDO you are a horrible person. Viszlak I have the utmost respect for you and if I wasn't in the wrong country I would be telling you to just let me know when you want to drop him off.
 
V, ignore the idiot/s.

To the idiots:

V had 3 horses - 1 retired due to age, 1 retired due to injury, and 1 in work;

V's circumstances changed and she could not afford to keep 3 horses - the 2 retired ones could not be sold/given away due to age/injury and there being no spaces in the charities, so V had them put to sleep. Heart breaking, but the right decision.

V has used the last of her money to keep the 3rd horse. And here's the rub:

She's been trying to loan this quirky horse for months, but whilst people have tried him, nobody wants him!

He's gorgeous to look at, good on the ground, but if he's not happy with is rider, he bucks like stink, hence not being able to find someone to take him.

So put that in your pipe and smoke it.

V, if our circs were different I'd take him, at least to give you breathing space, but our land deal fell through last week. I was thinking of you, but we couldn't close the deal, so I'm of no use, sorry.
 
Well said Mrs M.
RDO I hope you never find yourself in the situation that V has, although of course it will be simple for you, you can just sell your horse on. I consider myself incredibly lucky that I have my own land so am fairly confident can keep our lot till the end of their days, but if that should change then their days will end with me even if it is not their time.
 
What a c**p situation, I've got a 'quirky' horse who's now reached the age where he's too old to sell as a competition horse, but nowhere near reliable enough to sell as a schoolmaster, so I'm desperately trying to find a way to keep him fit when I move to London in a few months. Once he loses fitness he's a little s**t and at only 15 I don't want to retire a very talented horse!

I've agonised in exactly the same way you have over the fact that if I sold him, MAYBE he'd find someone like me who puts on a brave face after every bronc fit and thinks hmmm, what shall I try next time... but going by the number of times people have said to me 'I'd have sold him a long time ago', I don't think so!! I have no doubt that with a much better rider than me, my horse would be no problem at all, but that much better rider will likely want something they can rely on to perform!

We loaned a pony several years ago, and she was eventually sold to a 'home for life' after a prolonged loan... a year later we were contacted by her new 'home for life' who'd just bought her and suspected she'd had lami in the past... They'd paid twice what we'd sold her for and the people we'd trusted her to had declined to pass on the fact she nearly died of a foot absess and developed chronic lami as a result, and couldn't go out without a grazing muzzle :mad: And the people who contacted us for info have since sold her on again, we know because we've been contacted again :(

So the conclusion of all that waffle is to say you're doing the right thing - sadly mum has refused to take on an extra horse given my current situation :o but if I was staying at home I'd have him in an instant :) Good luck, and I really hope your responsible attitude pays off and you find a perfect loan home :)
 
I totally understand why you are doing this but I just wondered what your vets view on this is putting i.e. from a professional ethical point of view. What do you say to them when requesting a healthy horse to be pts. When my friend's horse was very ill her vet would not pts her horse as he said it could be controlled by medication. She could not afford the medication but he still refused to pts as it could be controlled apparently.

Hugs hope you get sorted.
 
Kaylum said:
When my friend's horse was very ill her vet would not pts her horse as he said it could be controlled by medication. She could not afford the medication but he still refused to pts as it could be controlled apparently.

Hugs hope you get sorted.
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Ethical vet ? Hope his principles extended to free treatment and supplying meds at cost.
 
I suspect not one of them will take him on along with an owner who (si comign across as) believes only they can be the best home and will probably interfere significantly with the horses management.
It is pure paranoia and to be honest, arrogance that believes others cannot look after a horse as well as you. You take a certain risk with selling but it is an exceptionally extreme thing to do to say 'things won't work exactly the way I want them to so I'm just going to PTS' a young healthy horse rather than, I will do the best to find a nice home for him as many thousands of other horses do.
Perhaps if you had thought of selling earlier you would have been able to use those three months to find a good home, obviouslu with price reflecting your need to sell.
 
SusieT what a judgemental post, do you know the op? No I thought not. So how come youve come to this conclusion? crystal ball is it.

Selling a horse with quirks is a small risk according to you but the reality is a downward spiral with people who are unable to cope. Would you like to think one of yours ended up like this or is it just about the money with you.

In this day and age a lot of people are unable to cope with the smallest quirk so a sharp horse is always going to be challenging to the average horse owner.

Most of the replies on this thread have been positive towards the op with people offering help and support, do you really think the op wants to be in this awful position?
 
SusieT said:
I suspect not one of them will take him on along with an owner who (si comign across as) believes only they can be the best home and will probably interfere significantly with the horses management.
It is pure paranoia and to be honest, arrogance that believes others cannot look after a horse as well as you. You take a certain risk with selling but it is an exceptionally extreme thing to do to say 'things won't work exactly the way I want them to so I'm just going to PTS' a young healthy horse rather than, I will do the best to find a nice home for him as many thousands of other horses do.
Perhaps if you had thought of selling earlier you would have been able to use those three months to find a good home, obviouslu with price reflecting your need to sell.
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What tosh. V doesn't sound like she wants to interfere at all to me (and that's coming from someone who has loaned often and had a fair share of different types of owner) she just wants to know where he is.

It is NOT pure paranoia to worry about selling a quirky horse. How many threads do we see on here about horses being passed from pillar to post or being bought from a dealer only to find they have a shady past and the only person willing to buy them in the end being a dealer.

There is nothing wrong with wanting to loan a horse rather than sell and there is certainly nothing wrong with thinking a definitive end for a quirky horse at the hand of the vet is better than the horse going god only knows where to god only knows what weirdo.
 
i have nothing more to add that the people who have given you kind responses have'nt already said, other than i hope you find a solution and wish you all the best.x
 
I really think those who are criticising the OP are neglecting to remember the financial state of the country, and that the market is flooded with horses, both with and without problems, who are going for a song.

Yes, it will be a crying shame if this horse cannot be found a suitable home, but the poor OP is doing her best.
 
V - well i am happy to send you a contribution to help keep him for a month and as I pm'd you I am happy to come and move him free of charge to an area of the country if that will help at all.

Would he live out? I have asked at my livery yard and I could have him here for 6 months or so - just to try and give him and you a chance.

take no notice of the muppets - they are facless cowards and extreamly hurtful into the bargin. I am really worried about you

GW
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Gingerwitch said:
V - well i am happy to send you a contribution to help keep him for a month and as I pm'd you I am happy to come and move him free of charge to an area of the country if that will help at all.

Would he live out? I have asked at my livery yard and I could have him here for 6 months or so - just to try and give him and you a chance.

take no notice of the muppets - they are facless cowards and extreamly hurtful into the bargin. I am really worried about you

GW
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Nice one Gingerwitch.
 
mymare said:
So are you offering to buy the horse from her then?

You have no idea what the OP has gone through. She didn't kill them, the vet put them to sleep. 2 not 3. It's also crystal clear that OP is heartbroken and trying her very best to find an alternative.

If she cannot sell the horse, what are your suggestions? Loan? Free as a companion?? And then what?
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It costs around £800 to PTS including cremation doesn't it?
 
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Gingerwitch said:
V - well i am happy to send you a contribution to help keep him for a month and as I pm'd you I am happy to come and move him free of charge to an area of the country if that will help at all.

Would he live out? I have asked at my livery yard and I could have him here for 6 months or so - just to try and give him and you a chance.

take no notice of the muppets - they are facless cowards and extreamly hurtful into the bargin. I am really worried about you

GW
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What a lovely, kind person you are. :)
 
tHE ilph HAVE A GIFTING IN SERVICE, ALL MY ANIMALS WILL GO TO THEM IF ANYTHING HAPPENS TO BE ITS MY WAY OF SECURING THEIR FUTURE THEY WILL ALWAYS BELONG TO ilph.
 
I dont know V at all - I have followed her posts other the last year or so, I first hand know the heartache of having a horse pts - but for slightly different reasons - she was very old and was on a fast downhill spiral. I have also been in some dark places in my life and I have always had a wonderful mum and dad and other half to sort me out. God forbid i am ever faced with this amount of heartbreak - I dont think I would be strong enough to cope with it.

If a few hundred quid will help the situation then I for one will stand upto the plate - if a few others on here could also do the same - publicly or privatley we may be able to pull the poor girl and the horse through this horrific situation.

Anyone else that has something horrid to say - dont bother - as you must be a pretty horrid, mean person to kick someone that is so obviously down on their luck.
 
V- what a horrible position for you to be in - you are obviously trying everything you can to sort it out - well done. I am in Weston super Mare can you pass details of horse to me and I will ask around as well (have someone in mind depending on details) - if you cant sell or loan could you afford to put in a retirement type livery there are a few around this one is in devon http://www.horseretirementlivery.co.uk - it may not be an option for you but just a thought (you can visit when you want and the cost is usually lower as they live out etc).

Good luck x
 
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