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I'm looking after my daughter's puppy, I need to take him to the vet and his crate will be going in the back of my car for him to travel in. On the way I need to stop off and do some errands. Am I allowed to leave him in his crate in the back of the Landy for half an hour or if not what the heck else do I do? He can't go in the shop and he can't tie up outside because a) he's never been tied and b) he's a 14 week old mini dachshund and I can't imagine he'd still be there when I got back and even if he was he'd be terrified. On normal days he isn't used to being left at home by himself and today I can't leave him as he has to go to the vets. If I make two trips I'll have to leave him at home by himself for several hours.

So what do people do with their dogs nowadays?
 
Personally I'd take two trips, I dont know what the weather is like where you are, but it's been sunny here, and it can get very hot in a car very quickly, puppies are not good at temperature regulation (not that i condone any dog being left in a car in the heat!), so it would be better to do things separately.
 
If you can park in shade and leave all the windows open I would be happy to leave him for half an hour- but you do then have to leave your landy with windows down
 
By the time my pooch was 14 weeks she was able to be left for a couple of hours (crated), I think it is very important for them to learn to be alone with they are little.

I would think he would be ok on a cool day in a covered crate for half an hour. I never leave my dog in the car for more than 5 mins though, and only when I can see the car for fear of someone smashing a window / the car getting too warm.
 
Thank you all for your comments. I think I've managed to get someone to come and sit in the car with him. He only met the crate yesterday so she can reassure him in there rather than just dumping him in it at home for several hours given that he doesn't know the crate and he doesn't know my house either.
 
The time is fine for him to be left (1/2 hour is nothing, im a little warey re leaving young pups in car (for stealing reasons) but u could cover crate and do your best to hide her, obs park out of the heat and leave windows slightly open and park against a wall.
 
What actually happened was that we decided the crate was too big a space for such a small pup to travel in so transferred some of his bedding to a cat carrier, fastened it in well (a pet hate of mine, seeing loose cages in cars) and took him to the vets where he was much cuddled and admired, then he walked round to the large animal vets and had more cuddles and petting. Whilst he was with the small animal vets I asked their advice, given that it was a cool cloudy day in our neck of the woods. The vet said if he's quiet leave him in peace. Our Landy is a van so he was well out of sight and we left all the vents open just in case and we were less than half an hour. He was fine and is now shattered from his busy day, life here is a different kettle of fish from being in an 11th floor flat in London. Here he has exciting things to do, like checking out the horse poo, being scared of the chickens and trying to work out why he can see through the chicken wire but not walk through it.
 
I'm sorry I cannot believe anyone here is actually suggesting it's okay to leave a puppy in a car in the summer. FFS I thought this part of the forum was for dog lovers. :rolleyes:
 
jsr said:
I'm sorry I cannot believe anyone here is actually suggesting it's okay to leave a puppy in a car in the summer. FFS I thought this part of the forum was for dog lovers. :rolleyes:
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I dont think anyone is as OP sounds sensible enough if the weather is ok. It may be July but it isnt summer on the north yorks coast, damp, cloudy and 12degrees, not a problem to leave them in the car for such a short period in weather like this.
 
jsr said:
I'm sorry I cannot believe anyone here is actually suggesting it's okay to leave a puppy in a car in the summer. FFS I thought this part of the forum was for dog lovers. :rolleyes:
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^^ Ditto this. You must be mad contemplating leaving a dog in a car for 30 minutes!!!!

Read the newspaper reports of cooked dogs - actually shut yourself in your car for 30 minutes with 4 inches of windows open please!!
 
jsr said:
I'm sorry I cannot believe anyone here is actually suggesting it's okay to leave a puppy in a car in the summer. FFS I thought this part of the forum was for dog lovers. :rolleyes:
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Where do live? Africa?

it was for 20mins/half an hour in shade with windows open.... it is really NOT that hot atm....... if it were Im sure the responses would be different..... and im sure the OP has enough common sense to know if the heat was going to be too much

THE OP STATES "given that it was a cool cloudy day in our neck of the woods"
 
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jsr said:
I'm sorry I cannot believe anyone here is actually suggesting it's okay to leave a puppy in a car in the summer. FFS I thought this part of the forum was for dog lovers. :rolleyes:
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:rolleyes: Oh, please!

May I politely suggest you go back and read Hedwards and Cayla's posts again - slowly, one word at a time...........;)

But seeing as you've said elsewhere that you won't be back in here, then perhaps I'm talking to myself.............:p
 
jsr said:
I'm sorry I cannot believe anyone here is actually suggesting it's okay to leave a puppy in a car in the summer. FFS I thought this part of the forum was for dog lovers. :rolleyes:
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^^^This^^^
You can say what you like but we ALL know it's wrong. There are too many cases to prove it. We ALL know how hot a car can get in a few minutes.


I've never done it and never will. Anyone who does is playing Russian roulette. you deserve to have your windows broken. How is a passer by supposed to know how long the dog has been in the car?

And yes you're right, this does sound trolly
 
lazybee said:
^^^This^^^
You can say what you like but we ALL know it's wrong. There are too many cases to prove it. We ALL know how hot a car can get in a few minutes.


I've never done it and never will. Anyone who does is playing Russian roulette. you deserve to have your windows broken. How is a passer by supposed to know how long the dog has been in the car?

And yes you're right, this does sound trolly
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Eh? the Op states "given that it was a cool cloudy day in our neck of the woods"

COOL AND CLOUDY... not HOT
 
lazybee said:
Yeah, until the sun comes out. I doesn't really matter where you live. It's still July for all of us.
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Of course it matters..... you are assuming the OP is a bit daft and would leave said pup in a Landy with all the windows up for hours in the sweltering heat..... it was not hot!
 
You cant judge temps by the month in a blanket fashion! You have to judge per day, it is colder here today than it was in March when we had all that lovely weather when i would not have left for even 30 secs as it was very warm. Today I wouldnt have a problem especially on the beach this morning when i needed a jumper and a coat (so much for summer!:D)
 
I have joined just so I can respond to this!
My dog comes to work with me everyday and sits in the car (he's in there now) whatever the weather. The windows are open, and the boot sometimes, if its hot and he is so happy!! He goes for a hours walk at lunch.
In fact he really seems to love being hot because when the heater is on at home in the winter you can't tear him away from it!!
You have to treat each dog individually, one of the nurses here can't bring her dogs at all in the summer, one of them is fat and hairy and one is old and bald!!
Of course if is burny super hot he does come into work, I work at a vets.
I'm sure I will get shot by people who think they know better :)
 
ilovemydog said:
I have joined just so I can respond to this!
My dog comes to work with me everyday and sits in the car (he's in there now) whatever the weather. The windows are open, and the boot sometimes, if its hot and he is so happy!! He goes for a hours walk at lunch.
In fact he really seems to love being hot because when the heater is on at home in the winter you can't tear him away from it!!
You have to treat each dog individually, one of the nurses here can't bring her dogs at all in the summer, one of them is fat and hairy and one is old and bald!!
Of course if is burny super hot he does come into work, I work at a vets.
I'm sure I will get shot by people who think they know better :)
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While I'm afraid i dont agree with what you are doing, this post is about a 14week puppy, not an adult dog (I'm assuming you have an adult by the fact it is walked for over an hour and has done at least one summer and one winter...) - If your dog is happy then i guess you dont have a problem, plus if you're able to leave all windows/boot open this isnt the same as parked up in a public carpark/side of the road when it is risky to do so, its definitely not something i would ever consider doing myself.
 
Nope I'm definitely not a troll, the temperature outside was 12 degrees when we set out, if you read my third post you'll see I checked with my vets as to what they would do and followed their advice.

One of things they said to me was that people have got rather ridiculous about this subject, as borne out by some of the responses above. The example she gave was of one of the vets locally who left her two dogs in the car whilst she went to the cash point. Windows were open, when she returned to her car five minutes later the dogs were very distressed as was the furious lady stood next to the car who was on the phone to the police. She'd seen the driver get out of the car leaving the dogs and had then strolled over to the car and tried the doors, which was why the dogs inside were barking their heads off, she had then got on the phone to report the dogs locked in the car. It wasn't even a warm day.

Now from my point of view leaving two dogs settled in the car they travel in most of the day for a very few minutes is infinitely more sensible than taking the risk of opening the tailgate, putting on their leads, taking them through a busy car park, trying to keep an eye on them whilst operating a cash point, then walking them back through a busy car park, reopening the tailgate and removing their leads and having to then shut the tailgate without them getting out. Sure on a hot day, for more than a few minutes, the risks would alter. However I'm sure I'll be "corrected" on my opinion.
 
jsr said:
I'm sorry I cannot believe anyone here is actually suggesting it's okay to leave a puppy in a car in the summer. FFS I thought this part of the forum was for dog lovers. :rolleyes:
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I think if you read all the posts you'll find that that those that "okayed" it all put caveats on, also that I took advice from my vet who saw the pup and knew the weather and temperature conditions locally on the day.
 
YasandCrystal said:
^^ Ditto this. You must be mad contemplating leaving a dog in a car for 30 minutes!!!!

Read the newspaper reports of cooked dogs - actually shut yourself in your car for 30 minutes with 4 inches of windows open please!!
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I have actually sat in the car, stationary, for far longer than that with three adults in it in weather conditions similar to yesterday's, which was why we had the windows closed except for a couple of inches on one side.
 
lazybee said:
^^^This^^^
You can say what you like but we ALL know it's wrong. There are too many cases to prove it. We ALL know how hot a car can get in a few minutes.


I've never done it and never will. Anyone who does is playing Russian roulette. you deserve to have your windows broken. How is a passer by supposed to know how long the dog has been in the car?

And yes you're right, this does sound trolly
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I think if read some of the foregoing posts not ALL believe it is wrong, given special circumstance, like yesterday's weather conditions locally. As I've already said, my Landy is a van and so doesn't suffer from quite the same heat gain as a conventional car with all the glass.

If you've never needed to leave your dog that's great, however I needed to and I asked a civil question about the best way of managing the situation I found myself in. As for breaking windows when dogs are left in the car in cool weather I do seriously wonder what would happen if you broke windows on a car, startled the dogs inside and they jumped out into a busy car park? As for how a passerby would know how long the dog has been in the car is it not true that a hot dog will pant, any dog that has gone past the panting stage will be flat, so it doesn't matter how long the dog has been in the car, it's the condition of the dog that should trigger alarm.

I guess replying to you has made me sound even more troll-like but I do feel that some of your points required response.
 
lazybee said:
Yeah, until the sun comes out. I doesn't really matter where you live. It's still July for all of us.
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The temperature outside was 12 degrees, my vehicle is a van and doesn't suffer the same heat gain as a glazed vehicle. It certainly doesn't feel like July here!
 
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