I'm upset/shocked, saw horse seriously beaten on way home.

[thatsmygirl]

I was travelling through the country lanes on the way home from work as normal when I had to stop for a horse and rider up ahead, I slowed down very early cause the rider was on foot and looked like she had fallen off by the state off her trousers. I'm sure she hadn't seen me by this point as she started pulling down hard on the horses reins and smacking him again and again hard with the whip. It was a long schooling type off whip and the horse was running round her in circles while she smacked it in front the sadddle, behind the saddle and across his bum. I feel bad cause I sat in my car in utter shock just watching, I couldn't believe what iv just seen and still can't. She was really laying into him. In the end I drove closer and she than pulled him and I mean pulled, he chucked his head up in the air so she started shouting. I had my radio on and could hear her over that. I feel so so bad for driving off and would like to now found out who she was and do something if possable. Thinking about it now I should off recorded it on my phone but didn't think off it at the time. I'm so upset and keep re running it in my head off what I saw. That poor poor horse

 

[niagaraduval]

Totally get ya here
Got to admit though when my horse bolted with me he got several hard smacks on the arse. Didn't lose myself with him though and I wouldn't beat him but he deserved it!!

 

[*hic*]

And you didn't stop to help - nice!

I did stop when I saw a girl in trouble and sawing at a horse's mouth and whacking it. They were winding each other up right royally and it was going to end in disaster. It took a while to calm the girl down but in the end when she settled we got him(the horse) past the terrifying collection of wheelie bins that were clustered on either side of the road and she was SO pleased that someone had bothered to take the time. She was in tears at what she had done as she had totally lost it but she just didn't have the experience to deal with it.

But hey, never mind, you just go on your way wishing you had reported it to the authorities rather than done anything positive to help teach someone how to deal with an animal rather than beating it up.!

 

[Kellys Heroes]

I feel for you hun it must have been awful to watch and there wasn't really anything you could have done - sounds like you would have probably got a mouthful and gotten nowhere fast with her!!
I agree with niagaraduval - if Kelly pulls a silly stunt like when she gets down to roll with me in the indoor school, she gets a few short smacks and a "you little *****!" usually but never would I repeatedly beat her and take my bad mood out on her (as it seems with the horse and person... you saw today - I say "person" because a rider needs to understand however bad their day is not to take it out on their horse and carry on punishing him for something he may have done 10 minutes ago!!!
K x

 

[charleysummer]

how horrid people shouldnt have horses if they don't understand them/are too angry natured to cope.

makes me wonder why they have them if they clearly dont enjoy it to the extent of beating their horse..

 

[nativetyponies]

And you didn't stop to help - nice!

my first thought too.

 

[skewbald_again]

And you didn't stop to help - nice!

I did stop when I saw a girl in trouble and sawing at a horse's mouth and whacking it. They were winding each other up right royally and it was going to end in disaster. It took a while to calm the girl down but in the end when she settled we got him(the horse) past the terrifying collection of wheelie bins that were clustered on either side of the road and she was SO pleased that someone had bothered to take the time. She was in tears at what she had done as she had totally lost it but she just didn't have the experience to deal with it.

But hey, never mind, you just go on your way wishing you had reported it to the authorities rather than done anything positive to help teach someone how to deal with an animal rather than beating it up.!

Do we feel sarcasm helps?

 

[Maesfen]

my first thought too.

And mine!

 

[nativetyponies]

And mine!

Unless it's a Jackanory?

 

[*hic*]

how horrid people shouldnt have horses if they don't understand them/are too angry natured to cope.

makes me wonder why they have them if they clearly dont enjoy it to the extent of beating their horse..

Sorry but I just love this reply. Go and look down the threads on this forum and count up how many people are asking fairly basic questions showing that they obviously don't understand their horse or horse management. Now, do you want to go and tell them they shouldn't have a horse or do you think that it's better to offer support and advice and try to help them to cope and learn?

 

[S_Farrah]

I'm so upset and keep re running it in my head off what I saw.

And you didn't stop to help - nice!

WOW, really supportive. This lass is obviously upset and thats the first thing you can say?

- nice!

 

[*hic*]

WOW, really supportive. This lass is obviously upset and thats the first thing you can say?

- nice!

This lass is upset - what about the poor person who was having so much trouble with her horse, not only was this supposedly experienced person not prepared to help, but she sat like a lemon and watched and then wants to report to whoever, oh and of course to get the "Oh poor you how awful it must have been to witness it" on the forum.

Good grief!

 

[nativetyponies]

This lass is upset - what about the poor person who was having so much trouble with her horse, not only was this supposedly experienced person not prepared to help, but she sat like a lemon and watched and then wants to report to whoever, oh and of course to get the "Oh poor you how awful it must have been to witness it" on the forum.

Good grief!

As I said ...... a Jackanory.

 

[thatsmygirl]

I'm sorry but I was not going to stop after what I had just witnessed. I'm sure I would have got a mouth full and it didn't even cross my mind I was in utter shock.

 

[JJtheJetPlane]

Well hopefully the girl will have got the horse home in one piece and will now be feeling terrible for the way she has treated her him / her.
You cant do anything about it now so dont beat yourself up about it.

All for all you lot that are giving her a hard time for not stopping give her a break she obviously feels bad enough as it is to be posting in the first place !!

 

[xspiralx]

This lass is upset - what about the poor person who was having so much trouble with her horse, not only was this supposedly experienced person not prepared to help, but she sat like a lemon and watched and then wants to report to whoever, oh and of course to get the "Oh poor you how awful it must have been to witness it" on the forum.

Good grief!

Totally agree.

Not for a moment saying that it is right for the person to act the way they did, but I've had times when I've gone out for a hack and horse has been an absolute prat and taken me very close to the end of my tether. I can just imagine that if the horse had been twatting about and dumped her and then refused to let her get back on she would have been very very upset and utterly fed up.

Again, not saying its right - but I think it would have been much better for OP to offer a hand rather than sitting in judgement and then complaining how fed up she is!

 

[hannabanana]

I agree with jemima and kellysheroes. As a rider she should never of taken it out on her horse and kept doing so, but she may of needed a little assistance to make her realise theres no need to get worked up, or she could of been a horrible person and give you a mouthful if you had offered help. Some do just need bringing back down to Earth while others are just plain rude and nasty. Like my friend who I ride with alot, it always seems to be anyone elses but her own fault when something goes wrong and usually blames the horse if its to do with riding but you just have to remind her its a horse and not a human to make her think. Its in the past now, and hopefully the girl will of calmed down by now and realised what she had done was silly. But at least if you see something similar in the future you know now to offer help and tell them what they are doing is wrong.

Forgot to add that that I have been in shock when I once witnessed a women getting totally stressed at her horse for not loading and smacking it over and over again screaming her head off and I just stood like a lemon, as well as 15 other people and several stewards. I did feel bad that I didnt go over to tell the girl to chill and try again in a different way because her method isnt helping, but no one else did. But I knew that I should do something next time I seen a similar situation, which is what I do now.

 

[charleysummer]

Sorry but I just love this reply. Go and look down the threads on this forum and count up how many people are asking fairly basic questions showing that they obviously don't understand their horse or horse management. Now, do you want to go and tell them they shouldn't have a horse or do you think that it's better to offer support and advice and try to help them to cope and learn?

ok i'll count the ones titled 'help me, i keep whipping the cr*p out of my horse because i don't understand what is going wrong, whilst making the poor prey animal nervous" yeh people get it wrong, but they dont beat up their horse in a bullying manner! hope you understand my point of view a bit more now =/

 

[Thelwell_Girl]

OP was clearly very upset, shocked by what she saw, and did not know how to react. Yes, she maybe made a mistake by not stopping. Is this the end of the world?

TBH if I had been driving on my own, im not 100% sure I wouldve stopped. NOT because I dont care for the horse, or am not concerned by what I see, but simply because people can be nasty, and downright dangerous. Whos to know what this woman couldve done?

OP now knows in the future what to do. So please lay off her, and stop being so hard!

 

[GeeGeeboy]

This lass is upset - what about the poor person who was having so much trouble with her horse, not only was this supposedly experienced person not prepared to help, but she sat like a lemon and watched and then wants to report to whoever, oh and of course to get the "Oh poor you how awful it must have been to witness it" on the forum.

Good grief!

I have never heard someone that beats up an animal described as a "poor person" before. How do you know she was "having so much trouble with her horse" and not just a cruel person that was hitting her horse because it chucked her off!?


OP was upset by what she saw and ok she didnt do anything positive about the situation but why is she getting the blame for not "helping"? Surely its the girl who was beating the horse that is in the wrong!?

 

[narkymare]

And you didn't stop to help - nice!

I did stop when I saw a girl in trouble and sawing at a horse's mouth and whacking it. They were winding each other up right royally and it was going to end in disaster. It took a while to calm the girl down but in the end when she settled we got him(the horse) past the terrifying collection of wheelie bins that were clustered on either side of the road and she was SO pleased that someone had bothered to take the time. She was in tears at what she had done as she had totally lost it but she just didn't have the experience to deal with it.

But hey, never mind, you just go on your way wishing you had reported it to the authorities rather than done anything positive to help teach someone how to deal with an animal rather than beating it up.!

Sorry but have to agree with this, last week i saw a young mum pushing a buggy and tryign to control a very naughty pup - i was following them and saw her kick said pup, i ran up to them and offered to walk the pup home for her - she let me.

How could you stand and watch this and do nothing?????????????

 

[JJtheJetPlane]

he he this is turning into a right good heated discussion !! love it !!

 

[thatsmygirl]

This lass is upset - what about the poor person who was having so much trouble with her horse, not only was this supposedly experienced person not prepared to help, but she sat like a lemon and watched and then wants to report to whoever, oh and of course to get the "Oh poor you how awful it must have been to witness it" on the forum.

Good grief!

What about the poor girl who was having the trouble with her horse,!!!!!!
SHE WAS BEATING THE **** OUT OFF IT. No horse deserves that, if she had controlled her temper the horse would not have been running circles round her. This horse is probably beaten daily and lives his life in fear but oh never mind as long as the poor rider is ok hey.
What the hell are you on.

 

[nativetyponies]

I have never heard someone that beats up an animal described as a "poor person" before. How do you know she was "having so much trouble with her horse" and not just a cruel person that was hitting her horse because it chucked her off!?


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If the OP had stopped, we would know the answer wouldn't we?

 

[PapaFrita]

WOW, really supportive. This lass is obviously upset and thats the first thing you can say?

- nice!

If she'd witnessed someone beating a child and carried on on her merry way would you respond in the same way?

 

[narkymare]

exactly - disgusting

 

[S_Farrah]

If she'd witnessed someone beating a child and carried on on her merry way would you respond in the same way?

Some how I really don't think logging into H&H and posting how upset you are is carrying on in your merry way?

 

[Lippyx]

I understand how upsetting this is, and I see some responses are that you should've helped, but sometimes, its better to walk away.
Some people take kindly to help but others do throw it back in your face!
I have tried to help many people in the past and basically been told where to stick my advice/help, and thats from people I know!

Monster - Don't be hard on your self. Maybe you should've helped, maybe you shouldn't have. If this rider is like this with her horse on a regular basis, she has probably had loads of people offer help, and she has probably told them where to stick it!

 

[nativetyponies]

If this rider is like this with her horse on a regular basis, she has probably had loads of people offer help, and she has probably told them where to stick it!

And how the heck can you assume that?

 

[skewbald_again]

Can you all honestly say, you've never frozen, been too afraid to take someone on, and wished afterwards you had?

I think you're being incredibly harsh.

Of course she should have stopped - er, if in fact she felt confident enough to help, which ain't a given is it? - but she didn't, wrong choice - so you never made a wrong call?

I offered to help someone the other day whose horse was arsing about in the middle of the road and was told to f off.

Will I stop next time? Hope so. Depends. I'm not 100% confident with strangers even when they don't have half a tonne of solid muscle whirling round them.