I'm upset/shocked, saw horse seriously beaten on way home.

I have seen people beat horses before and I have voiced my opinions and told them what I thought...have even tried to help them and give advice. These people dont want to listen. The people who do want to listen and learn about horsemanship are the ones who love and respect horses and wouldnt do such a thing in the first instance.

Had OP have stopped and said something, would the rider never take out her anger on her horse again?...probably not!

We never know how we will react in certain situations until faced with that situation. However, it is a fact that we would ALL act differently and should not be judged based on that!
 
do you know, im shocked at some of these reply, i rely am! some of you can be down right rude if im honest. do you not think the OP feels bad enough? hind sight is a funny thing! but alot more far worse things go on in this world! do you not think you'd be better off putting your efforts into getting something done about the real abuse in the horse world rather than a spoilt little brat that takes it out on their horse, and dont deny it, there are plenty of those about! yes i would have stoppped but it would have been to
b011ock the girl for beating the **** out of her horse, doesnt matter what has happened there is absolutley no excuse for it! but if i felt that i could be putting myself in danger then i would have walked away.
OP. maybe pop into your local yards and speak to the YO's and describe the horse and rider, maybe they can have a quiet word with them.
 
well i wouldn't of stopped to help the "poor rider" .. i would of stopped to help the poor horse!! I don't care what the horse has/hasn't done, he doesn't deserve to be treated the way the op described ..i would of been more than tempted to to give her a taste of her own medicine!! :mad:

eta ..china said it soo much better than me ;)
 
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jemima_too said:
This lass is upset - what about the poor person who was having so much trouble with her horse, not only was this supposedly experienced person not prepared to help, but she sat like a lemon and watched and then wants to report to whoever, oh and of course to get the "Oh poor you how awful it must have been to witness it" on the forum.

Good grief!
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i'm sorry but from what i read in the op's post i never got the impression that the rider was 'having trouble' with the horse, sounds more like she fell off and had decided to batter lumps out of it when it had probably already forgotten what it had done to deserve that kind of treatment!
 
xspiralx said:
But I don't understand why the OP needs support or sympathy?

OP made a judgement on the rider without offering to help, or knowing the first thing about the situation and what had led up to the rider's loss of temper.

If she is so quick to condemn the rider without even bothering to find out the facts, she should be happy to be just as quickly judged on her own behaviour by the other posters.
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Well Said
 
SmartieBean09 said:
I have seen people beat horses before and I have voiced my opinions and told them what I thought...have even tried to help them and give advice. These people dont want to listen. The people who do want to listen and learn about horsemanship are the ones who love and respect horses and wouldnt do such a thing in the first instance.!
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this! you get it chucked back in your face.
 
I think some of you are being very harsh! Some of us arent very good at confrontation. I hate it. If I was in the OP's position, I would probably decide against approaching someone who was being violent too! Plus i'm sure the OP didnt have time to think about all these things. I'm afraid I wouldnt be thinking "oh poor girl I must ask if she needs my advice". Also the way the OP described the beating suggests to me that this isnt the first time the girl has beaten her horse. A couple of smacks with the whip out of frustration maybe but not smacking the horse all over.
 
china said:
do you know, im shocked at some of these reply, i rely am! some of you can be down right rude if im honest. do you not think the OP feels bad enough? hind sight is a funny thing! but alot more far worse things go on in this world! do you not think you'd be better off putting your efforts into getting something done about the real abuse in the horse world rather than a spoilt little brat that takes it out on their horse, and dont deny it, there are plenty of those about! yes i would have stoppped but it would have been to
b011ock the girl for beating the **** out of her horse, doesnt matter what has happened there is absolutley no excuse for it! but if i felt that i could be putting myself in danger then i would have walked away.
OP. maybe pop into your local yards and speak to the YO's and describe the horse and rider, maybe they can have a quiet word with them.
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Thank you! A reasonable person!
 
china said:
do you know, im shocked at some of these reply, i rely am! some of you can be down right rude if im honest. do you not think the OP feels bad enough? hind sight is a funny thing! but alot more far worse things go on in this world! do you not think you'd be better off putting your efforts into getting something done about the real abuse in the horse world rather than a spoilt little brat that takes it out on their horse, and dont deny it, there are plenty of those about! yes i would have stoppped but it would have been to
b011ock the girl for beating the **** out of her horse, doesnt matter what has happened there is absolutley no excuse for it! but if i felt that i could be putting myself in danger then i would have walked away.
OP. maybe pop into your local yards and speak to the YO's and describe the horse and rider, maybe they can have a quiet word with them.
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^^^^agree^^^^
 
JoJo_ said:
I think some of you are being very harsh! Some of us arent very good at confrontation. I hate it. If I was in the OP's position, I would probably decide against approaching someone who was being violent too! Plus i'm sure the OP didnt have time to think about all these things. I'm afraid I wouldnt be thinking "oh poor girl I must ask if she needs my advice". Also the way the OP described the beating suggests to me that this isnt the first time the girl has beaten her horse. A couple of smacks with the whip out of frustration maybe but not smacking the horse all over.
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Thank you too!!!
 
Too late now, unfortunately, the time to do something about it was when you saw it happening. Perhaps if you had turned your radio off and spoken to her you would have brought the obviously irate rider to her senses, staying in the car of course for your own safety.
 
gracey said:
well i wouldn't of stopped to help the "poor rider" .. i would of stopped to help the poor horse!! I don't care what the horse has/hasn't done, he doesn't deserve to be treated the way the op described ..i would of been more than tempted to to give her a taste of her own medicine!! :mad:

eta ..china said it soo much better than me ;)
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that's really fine, while you're sat by your computer. I don't believe anyone knows exactly what they'll do actually.

Talk is cheap.
 
jemima_too said:
And you didn't stop to help - nice!

I did stop when I saw a girl in trouble and sawing at a horse's mouth and whacking it. They were winding each other up right royally and it was going to end in disaster. It took a while to calm the girl down but in the end when she settled we got him(the horse) past the terrifying collection of wheelie bins that were clustered on either side of the road and she was SO pleased that someone had bothered to take the time. She was in tears at what she had done as she had totally lost it but she just didn't have the experience to deal with it.

But hey, never mind, you just go on your way wishing you had reported it to the authorities rather than done anything positive to help teach someone how to deal with an animal rather than beating it up.!
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more bitching-nice! noone can post on here any more without having a negative retort, dont try making her feel guilty, she probably would have had a mouthful and would make the OP feel worse.
 
personally i would of stopped and offered to help.

What harm would it of done, the worst that could of happened would be the op had got a mouthful of abuse.

But it could of helped a horse and rider to cope in a suituation that was obviously beyond the riders control/temper/upset state
 
How many people were up in arms after watching Roberts horse "catwalk" treated the way it was??? Loads. But none tried to stop it did they? They sat and watch but came on here after to talk about what they had seen. It's no different. I came to share what I had seen and how I felt about it but until some off you are faced with it, you won't understand.
 
rosiefronfelen said:
more bitching-nice! noone can post on here any more without having a negative retort, dont try making her feel guilty, she probably would have had a mouthful and would make the OP feel worse.
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the OP SHOULD feel guilty.

it is the same as standing by and seeing an animal beaten in a market, at a gymkhana, at a county show...or being even more emotive, tethered at the roadside...

i'm sorry, but if EVERYONE took the same action as the OP and drove on by, then God only can help equines in the UK

As i posted before, i would have said something...and i will continue to say something.

The OP didnt do the right thing in this situation..and if ever she is confronted with a similar situation, her actions would be somewhat different
 
rosiefronfelen said:
more bitching-nice! noone can post on here any more without having a negative retort, dont try making her feel guilty, she probably would have had a mouthful and would make the OP feel worse.
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Agreed. People are too quick to judge and jump to conclusions.

Forums are great and fun to be a part of, but my goodness some of these threads don't half spiral out of control. Not a nice atmosphere on this one, that's for sure.
 
Monsters said:
How many people were up in arms after watching Roberts horse "catwalk" treated the way it was??? Loads. But none tried to stop it did they? They sat and watch but came on here after to talk about what they had seen. It's no different. I came to share what I had seen and how I felt about it but until some off you are faced with it, you won't understand.
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I personally wasn't at that circus as i'm not remotely interested in that type of thing...but "if" i was, you can bet your last quid i would have said something
 
rosiefronfelen said:
more bitching-nice! noone can post on here any more without having a negative retort, dont try making her feel guilty, she probably would have had a mouthful and would make the OP feel worse.
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Jemima_too is being bitchy??? YOU don't know what the rider's reaction would've been but you're slagging her off! Now THAT's bitchy. and the FACT is that the OP didn't stop, not EVEN to ask through the window of a moving car if the rider wanted help. I KNOW for a FACT that in such a position and for the sake of the HORSE I would've offered help. I would've risked a yelling at from someone on foot, especially from the safety of my car for the SAKE OF THE HORSE. Actually I would've done it for the rider as well because as so many have been so keen to point out in defence of the OP, anyone can make a wrong decision in the heat of the moment and I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.
 
nativeponies said:
i for one, certainly know how i would react TBH.

it wouldn't involve coming onto an internet website and exclaiming how inadequate i had been thats for sure.
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Im not sure what part of the discussion you agree/disagree with...is it because the OP didnt stop to help the horse, didnt stop to help the rider or just didnt stop in general?
 
Monsters said:
How many people were up in arms after watching Roberts horse "catwalk" treated the way it was??? Loads. But none tried to stop it did they? They sat and watch but came on here after to talk about what they had seen. It's no different. I came to share what I had seen and how I felt about it but until some off you are faced with it, you won't understand.
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dont worry, you could have had a right earful from such a horrid person, dont take notice of these know-alls- its ok to nag and bitch on but would they do anything different in that situation??
 
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