importance of breeding..... or not!!!

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Just wondering what peoples oppinions are. getting mixed resonse from the yard.

Horses breeding when it comes to selling a horse. My boys passport has his breeding as unknown but I know the sire and grandsire that he is by. I don't know the mare and have no chance of finding out as she is unregistered. The grandsire is a world class showjumper so basically since I am considering selling him, is it worth getting him DNA tested to get the sire onto the passport or as some folk have said that the sire is irrelevant when you don't know the mare.

i just thought that knowing for sure some part of the breeding would help in the selling.

any views?
 
i personally would like to be able to see the horses breeding, so if you can get part of it on his papers i think its a good idea. Breeding is more 'popular' these days so i think it would benefit you if you can get a DNA test.

Thats just my view tho, others might not agree.
 
thanks PG,thats what i though. he is only 4 so surely his breeding will give some indication as to what his ability would be. i know you can have the best breeding in the world and end up with a donkey and the opposite also applies!
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Amymay, if you were at a big sales, looking at a catalogue, which horse would you make a point of seeing though?

I don'ty know. I just don't see how it can do any harm in having the breeding on the book.
 
In general people go into the mare's history, if she has chucked out a few good winners, then the value goes up. The sire is'nt as important, but a good name helps.

I would'nt personally go to the trouble of DNA testing and doing the research unless the horse is particularly valuable.

In my humble opinion I would buy a horse for what he is about, and what I want to do with him.
 
Breeding just gives an "idea" of what the horse "might" be capable of, with correct training etc IMO. All sires and dams could chuck out an odd ball that wasnt good at the discipline it was intended for...........
 
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Amymay, if you were at a big sales, looking at a catalogue, which horse would you make a point of seeing though?

I don'ty know. I just don't see how it can do any harm in having the breeding on the book.

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Oh don't get me wrong - it is intersting, and for a lot of people important. However, I'm never going to buy a competition animal - so for me is less important.

However, absolutely understand your point about a young horse - potential etc. etc.
 
I dont know my mares breeding and was debating on whether or not to contact the breeder to see if he had any idea - but I dont think I am too bothered. She does what I want her too and is special to me breeding is therefore irrevlant.

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I think I would go for DNA. Especially for young horse. I would not entirely agree that people go more into the mare's breeding. Grandsire's breeding would have to be a big advantage if you are selling.
 
I don't think it is, I bought my horse cos he was a really stunner and a sweetie too, without getting him vetted or knowing his breeding. Have since found out that he is related to a very very famous racehorse!!
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I also know of someone who was given a ex racer cos he was useless and when they got the passport he was related to shergar....... I know breeding does not equal performance but it just confuses me how comepletely polar the views on it are!
 
I know but he has to go. Breaks my heart but he is just too much horse for me. Needs a good competition home where he will get the right schooling. He is just a baby and I am so rusty, i shouldn't have bought a young horse but lesson learned!
 
Depends what you are selling him as.
If he is to be sold as a pleaseure horse(hacking RC stuff ect) that I wouldnt waste the money.But if he is being sold as a competician horse it could up his value a fair bit.
 
I know when I bought my boy I didn't recognise either sire or dams name but was happy with the combination of TB & RID - later lots of people told me they really rated his sire as he is well known for potential eventing off-spring. I reckon if you think he has potential I'd get the dna test done (as long as it's not a fortune) a lot of people over here will pay for known breeding & if he's by someone good then it can't do any harm!
 
I know from the dealer that the mare was never registered and the owner has apparently passed away! so there is no way of finding out where she is etc.

the DNA should confirm the sire as I have the reg number for him etc.

Want to sell him but don't want to take big hit financially so may have to wait till he has done a bit more. His flat work is coming on treat though
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DNA test would cost all in all about 200 euro the kit is about 120 and then its the call out for the vet etc to take the bloods.

thanks for all the responses. think i might get it done. at least its confirmed then.
 
My boy is registered with the AES, when we passported him, we sent along his registration papers, and Wetherbys failed to put his breeding on it!
It doesn't matter so much because he's never going to be sold, and obviously he won't be used for breeding, but it just annoyed me because he has great sire and dam lines, and would be nice for them to be recognised on his passport.
 
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