In a bit of a difficult situation...

RiderLizzie said:
And 28 rugs and hay :/ You have to have a hell of a lot of storage space to get all that in, but to have it all outside a stable? I can't imagine how it fits if stables are all side by side?

Stables are side by side but have an alleyway between each about 3ft wide. There is then about 12ft minimum between the front of the stable an the outside wall.
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So how did her mare wee into your stable? Still can't picture how if tied up outside her stable?
 
And an update - arrived this morning and only a small patch of fresh wee as apparently tried to catch it in bucket. She spoke to me like nothing had ever happened and invited me to hack with her and then walk dogs - I didn't as needed to school. Not sure if yo
 
Up to you how/what much you keep in your storage area & it is reasonable to ask the lady to deal with the situation.

I have a mare who pees for England (when you get on yard, before work, after work, any surface she doesn't care). If she was splashing anothers area reguarly I'd see it as my responsibility to a)replace the unuseable hay b) clear up & clean soiled rugs c) take steps to prevent it happening again. The mare wees, so put her in the stable until she has done her business. She weeves, buy an anti-weave grill or tie her up with a net to distract her. Deal with it. As the horses owner it is her responsibility. To leave her horse in a situation where she knows it causes damage (& soiling food/equipment is damage) is not acceptable. She has no excuse, having raised the issue with her she knows it is just that, an issue. If despite everything pee goes on the aisle area, she should wash it down with water, whether or not it's near a late gelded horse. It's basic manners.
 
PandorasJar said:
So how did her mare wee into your stable? Still can't picture how if tied up outside her stable?
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Not my stable so don't know. I'm just trying to help paint a picture of the layout.

I can certainly say though, that if it were happening to anyone else on here, they wouldn't be happy. I bet there would only be so many times you would throw away part of a bale and slosh away the mess caused by somebody else's horse before you'd be getting a bit irate about it.
 
Sounds simple to me...YO tells her to put horse in its stable if going to pee! Problem solved! YO owner needs to stop being useless and get some balls, OP shouldn't have to be problem solving or having their stuff peed all over.

Also please don't have wooden pallets near horses, my boy ended up jumping into a hay storage area out of the way of another horse a few years ago. He went straight through the pallet! Very very lucky boy and has healed well but we were fearing the worst (leg fracture, deformed hoof) and a nice 1k vet bill, so no matter how many you can get for free its not worth it.

Hope the YO sorts it soon and the other livery realises she was in the wrong,
 
RiderLizzie said:
Not my stable so don't know. I'm just trying to help paint a picture of the layout.

I can certainly say though, that if it were happening to anyone else on here, they wouldn't be happy. I bet there would only be so many times you would throw away part of a bale and slosh away the mess caused by somebody else's horse before you'd be getting a bit irate about it.
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I'm not saying I wouldn't. But I honestly don't understand how a horse can wee into another horses stable.
What's not your stable? In your OP you said it had weed into your stable and water bucket.

I wouldn't be too upset though as when I was on a yard I was paying a large sum for my area and any problems were raised and dealt with by yard (even if coming with silly comments from non-horsey YO's). I wouldn't have accepted the YO saying that I should be dealing with it, that's their job.
 
How do people whose stables are outside manage to keep their rugs and hay dry in wet weather ?

Best solutions, I've seen, are pallets (plastic for those with exuberant horses who jump on them), with groundsheets to cover hay and rug rack at back of stable or hanging in tack room/barn.

Depends whether Op wants a solution or just wants her neighbour to stop tying her horse up near her stable.

However, if the weaving horse was mine, I'd tie her up in the stable with the door open and work on getting the horse used to being stabled for small amounts of time with minimal stress.
 
Right, I can understand why many are confused with the layout and the stables, it is hard to explain so I have taken these two pics...

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Please note, wee on floor is only a very small amount, normally quadruple that size but owner tried to catch it in a bucket this am.

Also please note, I do not have all 28 rugs hanging on the front of my stable :rolleyes: Only the ones im using at the moment but I have no where else to store things.

Also also please note, said horse is 16.3/17hh so when lifts tail up and stands in corner between her stable and my post it gushes and splashes everywhere even over top of my stable.

Also also also please note, my horse is 13.3 - gelded or not he is a short little dumpling and wont be climbing out any time soon

:D

Does this make anything clearer or still not really? Not that is matters anymore due to the fact she is 'trying' (not sure how hard she tried) to catch it in a bucket this morning and spoke to normally - kidna strange but everyone horsey is :p
 
horserider said:
You say that the woman washes the urine away, so if you store your kit out off the wet floor, you'll be fine. No chance of respiratory disease from the concrete. The possibilty of a big vet bill is a little OTT, other wise every stabled horse would be very ill.
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She will very occasionally wash it away, but normally just leaves it or sweeps it around a bit. I DO NOT store anything on the floor. The aroma is in the air 24/7 whenever I go into barn.
 
Just going to clear something up aswell. I cant buy pallets etc to store stuff on because I do not have the room in the first place. The only room I have is where I tie my horse and he will not be standing next to/on anything other than the concrete floor. I like his legs and im sure he does too!
 
PandorasJar said:
So how did her mare wee into your stable? Still can't picture how if tied up outside her stable?
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She ties mare up on very very long bit of string - probs about 3ft from the bar on top of stable and then ties mare very loosely to string with rope to prevent poll pressure so mare can move where ever she likes.

its more that fact she stands and watches her mare piddle all over my things.
 
IMO I'd be feeling the same as you in this situation. It's not on for her to allow your things to get dirtied by her mare peeing outside of the stable. It's not like its happened once or twice, it's every time she brings her horse in, so she knows its going to happen and could prevent it. Either how she says she has tried to now, with a bucket, or just putting the horse in the stable for the minute or so until she's done her business. If she wants to take her out to groom her afterwards then fine, but the stable is there for her horse to use, not dogs.

I bet if the situation was reversed she would have been livid with you the first time it happened, let alone if it was a regular occurrence.

I don't think either of you should have to pay for boxes etc to protect your stuff, because its something simple enough to stop from being a problem in the first place.

ETA 28 rugs?!?! I thought I was bad with half that many for one of mine!!
 
M&S ChristNatch said:
The vets bill thing is silly, OP. Yes amonia has been proven to paralyse the cillia in a horse's respiratory system, yes that means that pathogens are more likely to get in and take up residence causing respiratory problems, no you would never a) prove it was her horse's wee alone that caused it b) want to knowingly allow your horse to get ill for the sake of slooshing some pee away.

No, she won't buy you boxes etc, be realistic. If it would solve the situation, buy them yourself.

Hope YO sorts it out today.

And still... 28 rugs for one horse! :eek: Sell 20 odd of those and it'll pay for your wee proof storage solutions ;)
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A) Because everyone else has good deep no smelling beds. There are 6 stables in my barn - two horses live out 24/7 and the other two are down the other end.
B) Where in gods name did you get that from?!

It wont solve the solution because I will then have no where to tie my horse.

I dont want too and dont need to sell my rugs. I like to have a spare one/two of each to swap and change when I want. They are not all stored in one area, so no problem.
 
How disgusting, in your place I would throw 4 or 5 buckets of water on it and not give a toss whether her stuff gets soaked, do it every time she lets horse wee. That area should be nice and clean and not smelling of horse wee, I do feel for you. YM must sort it.
 
Not read everything so forgive me if I'm repeating, but if she doesn't use her stable could you not come to a compromise where you could put your stuff in her stable? I know the dogs go in there, but they shouldn't do any damage to hay and rugs?
 
rachaelstar said:
A) Because everyone else has good deep no smelling beds. There are 6 stables in my barn - two horses live out 24/7 and the other two are down the other end.
B) Where in gods name did you get that from?!

It wont solve the solution because I will then have no where to tie my horse.

I dont want too and dont need to sell my rugs. I like to have a spare one/two of each to swap and change when I want. They are not all stored in one area, so no problem.
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If you want to tie up outside your box, how can you complain about somebody else doing that?
 
FestiveG said:
If you want to tie up outside your box, how can you complain about somebody else doing that?
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I don't think Op is. She is complaining that someone else lets ther horse piss all over her stuff repeatedly, Can't for the life of me understand why people are giving her a hard time.
 
If possible could she tie further along, perhaps suggest she moves her stuff infront of the stable door as not used and then mare where that currently is?
If it is your alleyway in the middle of the photo I'd be inclined to get YO to put a divide like the stables which comes out further from them to the post (or simply hang up an old rug or similar if your area). Then the mare couldn't swing close enough to cross into your space, but you could still tie. Might persuade the owner to change her ways or the YO to sort things out.
 
siennamum said:
I don't think Op is. She is complaining that someone else lets ther horse piss all over her stuff repeatedly, Can't for the life of me understand why people are giving her a hard time.
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I'm not giving her a hard time, but can't quite see how it is ok for her horse to be tied in the passage, where it may also piss, over it's own or other peoples stuff, but not ok for the neighbour. Mind you I can't do with horses tied up outside stables.
 
PandorasJar said:
If possible could she tie further along, perhaps suggest she moves her stuff infront of the stable door as not used and then mare where that currently is?
If it is your alleyway in the middle of the photo I'd be inclined to get YO to put a divide like the stables which comes out further from them to the post (or simply hang up an old rug or similar if your area). Then the mare couldn't swing close enough to cross into your space, but you could still tie. Might persuade the owner to change her ways or the YO to sort things out.
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There is a wooden post to the left of her stable like there is with mine so she could tie up to there but doesnt like poll pressure so wants horse tied high up. That could be a good idea but not sure how I could go about it. That isnt my alley way, mine is to the right of my stable.
 
Sorry I've not read all answers, but why don't you move stables next time one comes up. U may need a resolution in the meantime but ultimately don't be stabled next to her. It's a Shane you don't get somewhere proper to put your stuff. I thought I was hard fine to when I had a tiny space for my stuff but at least it wasn't just the front of my stable!
 
FestiveG said:
I'm not giving her a hard time, but can't quite see how it is ok for her horse to be tied in the passage, where it may also piss, over it's own or other peoples stuff, but not ok for the neighbour. Mind you I can't do with horses tied up outside stables.
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1) my horse wont piss, and if he goes to get his willy out he goes in his stable, but in the 5 years ive had him he seems to have very good bladder control and only goes in stable or field.

2) BECAUSE THE OWNER IS STANDING WATCHING HER HORSE PISS ALL OVER MY STUFF.

3) Each to their own. I like to see their stables as their own private chill out place. I wouldnt like to go into my horses stable with all tack etc.
 
Lovescobs said:
Sorry I've not read all answers, but why don't you move stables next time one comes up. U may need a resolution in the meantime but ultimately don't be stabled next to her. It's a Shane you don't get somewhere proper to put your stuff. I thought I was hard fine to when I had a tiny space for my stuff but at least it wasn't just the front of my stable!
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That is possible but in the 5 years ive been here only one person has left and was replaced 13 hours after so I maybe waiting a while!
 
rachaelstar said:
1) my horse wont piss, and if he goes to get his willy out he goes in his stable, but in the 5 years ive had him he seems to have very good bladder control and only goes in stable or field.

2) BECAUSE THE OWNER IS STANDING WATCHING HER HORSE PISS ALL OVER MY STUFF.

3) Each to their own. I like to see their stables as their own private chill out place. I wouldnt like to go into my horses stable with all tack etc.
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Well I find that an odd point of view, but presumably your neighbour feels the same as you do!
 
If it isn't resolved, things you can do for yourself;

Put the hay on some 'free' pallets, it's always a good idea to have it off the floor anyway, allowing air to circulate. Another plus point, you'll be able to see any stable rats running around underneath it easier :)

Then drape an old rug/plastic sheet over your stuff (the cupboard, mounting step/block) that can be seen in the first picture.

Things you can do for her;
Indelicately - sluice down her area after the horse has peed, making sure you soak the hay net, the rug, the wooden box. Oh and the liquid you use to sluice can be anything you want, Jeyes, horse/cat/dog pee, skunk juice, whatever you can think of.


Must admit that being newbie I had to look up weaving, as at first I thought everyone's equine autocorrect has gone mental.
Taken from wikipedia:
'many experts consider it a stress response, usually due to isolation from other horses, unhappiness in general, or little grazing time.'

...me? I'm saying nothin'
 
FestiveG said:
Well I find that an odd point of view, but presumably your neighbour feels the same as you do!
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Like I said, each to our own.

No, her stable is for her dogs and will not put her horse in her stable because she weaves.

My stable is for my horse to have his own time in his own space. I dont want to go in there bombarding him with tack.

In the 5 years I have been there, horse has not been in stable once.
 
Mugs said:
If it isn't resolved, things you can do for yourself;

Put the hay on some 'free' pallets, it's always a good idea to have it off the floor anyway, allowing air to circulate. Another plus point, you'll be able to see any stable rats running around underneath it easier :)

Then drape an old rug/plastic sheet over your stuff (the cupboard, mounting step/block) that can be seen in the first picture.

Things you can do for her;
Indelicately - sluice down her area after the horse has peed, making sure you soak the hay net, the rug, the wooden box. Oh and the liquid you use to sluice can be anything you want, Jeyes, horse/cat/dog pee, skunk juice, whatever you can think of.


Must admit that being newbie I had to look up weaving, as at first I thought everyone's equine autocorrect has gone mental.
Taken from wikipedia:
'many experts consider it a stress response, usually due to isolation from other horses, unhappiness in general, or little grazing time.'

...me? I'm saying nothin'
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The hay is raised above ground but only slightly so I could try and put it on a pallet instead. skunk juice :D ahaha! Yes the horse is stressed wherever it stands other than the field.
 
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