In a bit of a difficult situation...

1. is her stable up hill of yours? if so swop stables with her.
2. send her a bill for all the spoilesd stuff and get her to clear up and dispose of tghe spoiled hay etc
3.if non of the above work move yards. But do tell the YO why you want to leave. They should sort it out.
 
Great suggestions for pallets, but why should OP pay for boxes, pallets etc that will be damaged by urine rot over time. She is not in the wrong, the horse's owner can't control the horse and tell it to stop weeing but maybe she could sprinkle shavings around it (pain in the bum, I know) in an attempt to soak up excess urine. The horse owner should pay for the pallets/boxes and replace any hay soaked by her horses urine. As originally said, it is not fair on OP , severely unhygienic and unnessecary stress for her horse.
OP, speak to your yard owner and explain that either she or other livery needs to sort it out, and buy you nessecart pallets boxes or if this isn't suitable, move her horse to another stable and put it in the stable or tie up elsewhere, you are NOT in the wrong, gah this kind of stuff is very frustrating because both of you are not nessecarily in the wrong, it's very unfortunate and annoying! Best of luck !
 
I have to say I'm in agreement that it is the YO responsibility to sort it - all the yards I've been on would not have tolerated it ... In fact the rule was you had to catch in bucket if you could or clean up immediately and disinfectant

At the same time, unless it was a rug or two you were using, everything including hay would have to be stored on tack room

Also, I thought it was the norm to have hay and straw stored on pallets to help them air etc ..... Must just be the places I've been (horses have never had access to tread on them)
 
rachaelstar said:
There is a wooden post to the left of her stable like there is with mine so she could tie up to there but doesnt like poll pressure so wants horse tied high up. That could be a good idea but not sure how I could go about it. That isnt my alley way, mine is to the right of my stable.
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In which case I'd get something fixed between the post and your stable, should limit damage a little, perhaps a board that can be fixed to the bars on your stable while boys out to stop wee inside stable?

Where is your hay stored? (Sorry can't see from that image.) I always store on pallets but nowhere near horses, I presume it's on the outside run, not near stables so I'd probably pop a pallet under them as plenty of walkway space not near horses. A pallet is just as dangerous as a plastic box a horse puts it's foot through etc, in tying up space I'd worry, not in storage area at the back though.

I don't mean her tying on post, but on bars like she normally does, just further along so the mare can't back up onto your stable. Tying on a long rope and ******ing off is not something I'd ever be happy doing though!
 
AntxGeorgiax said:
Great suggestions for pallets, but why should OP pay for boxes, pallets etc that will be damaged by urine rot over time. She is not in the wrong, the horse's owner can't control the horse and tell it to stop weeing but maybe she could sprinkle shavings around it (pain in the bum, I know) in an attempt to soak up excess urine. The horse owner should pay for the pallets/boxes and replace any hay soaked by her horses urine. As originally said, it is not fair on OP , severely unhygienic and unnessecary stress for her horse.
OP, speak to your yard owner and explain that either she or other livery needs to sort it out, and buy you nessecart pallets boxes or if this isn't suitable, move her horse to another stable and put it in the stable or tie up elsewhere, you are NOT in the wrong, gah this kind of stuff is very frustrating because both of you are not nessecarily in the wrong, it's very unfortunate and annoying! Best of luck !
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On last yard I helped run, we supplied pallets for liveries if requested and using own hay. Never paid for one and I'd be requesting this from YO, or YO to sort the problem.
 
From what I can make out she does not tie her horse to the post outside its own stable because she likes to have her tied to something higher so stop poll pressure? if so could you get your OH or the YO to put a tie ring high on the post outside her own stable so the horse can wee all over her owners stuff? tie ring costs very little and takes 5 mins to put up :)
 
From the pictures you can see dried pee patches where the horse has peed the OP's side of the wooden pole and it has run away from the stables and towards the barn opening, but unfortunately has made its way towards the OP's mounting block, bin and wooden box. I would be furious if I were the OP or the YO. If the mares owner moved her tying up spot further to the left or even to her wooden pole the pee could easily be flushed out the barn door.

I also noticed that the wooden telegraph pole outside the OP's stable is soaked at the bottom, none of the others in the pictures look like this. If I were the YO I would be concerned that the urine would rot the wood and ruin the supporting pole...
 
It's pretty simple. She catches the wee or she ties the flippin horse in the stable which has something on the floor to soak up the deluge. What difference would it make to her.
 
Sorry if this has already been said, but if she doesnt use her stable, couldnt you come to an arrangement with her to store both of your stuff in it? That way all yours and her stuff would be kept clean and dry!
 
Having seen the photo's, nice set up there BTW , I'd either remove the tie up ring or place a plastic dustbin, or a something with a lid and fill it with water to make moving it difficult. Then place it in front of your rugs so the horse cannot get her bum near enough to your rugs.
 
Hmm, I think that maybe get some marine Ply etc and basically...............fix it to the side of your stable then also fix it on to the post, thus creating a barrier for your rugs etc. It may be a tad antisocial looking, but well, would stop stress maybe.
 
That is utterly disgusting. You or should I say your YO has three options. 1. Tie her horse so it's bum is outside. 2. Tie it up in its stable while she tends it. 3. Allow you to use her stable to store your belongings. This is in no way acceptable.
 
You can see how regular an occurence it is by the marks on the floor and the dampness at the bottom of the post (compared to the other posts in the pic)

I would be even more unhappy as it looks like there is a refreshment/kitchenette area just behind where the mare stands too!

Added to this if that is your alleyway with the wellies at the end I would be even more irritated and it looks like everyone entering the barn has to walk through the puddles too

The YO needs to get involved and ask the person to tie up either in the box or on the centre of the front of the box away from everyone elses stuff and sluice puddles away before they leave

Very very inconsiderate of the mare's owner I think
 
piebaldsparkle said:
Wow you have toilet trained yours have you? There is no reason why the mares owner should not be able to tie outside her stable if all do the same, and provided she washes down if the mare does wee (which should not be a problem with correct drainage and adequate storage.
...she can't seriously be expected to stand bucket in hand the whole time her horse is tied incase it does a pee!:rolleyes:
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If I have understood correctly the mare seems to wee every time she is brought in and tied up there. It seems to be a foreseeable event that the owner could prepare for, by either putting mare in stable for first 5 minutes she is brought in, or by yes, being prepared with a bucket handy.

I had a cob who sure as eggs is eggs weed on concrete where he was tied every time I went to go and prepare his tea. I always had an empty skip handy and whenever I went around the corner to get his feed I kept a very eager ear/eye out for it, as the ****** was quick! ;) (I didn't have a stable, nor was I on livery at the time).

rachaelstar said:
A) Because everyone else has good deep no smelling beds. There are 6 stables in my barn - two horses live out 24/7 and the other two are down the other end.

That still doesn't mean that any respiratory problems your horse may develop must only have occured because of this mare's weeing habits, or anyone's wee at all. It's not like the vet would test your horse's mucus and declare "I have found particles of Dobbin's wee, that is definately the cause of your horse's cough!"

B) Where in gods name did you get that from?!

Here:
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Having done more reasearch the ammonia in wee is a big factor in respiratory problems in horses....a nice vet bill coming her way if she doesn't do anything about it....
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It wont solve the solution because I will then have no where to tie my horse.

I dont want too and dont need to sell my rugs. I like to have a spare one/two of each to swap and change when I want. They are not all stored in one area, so no problem.
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Forgive me, but I thought you said that you could not store your rugs in the garage or shed at home. 28 rugs must be somewhere, if not at home I thought they would be at the yard, and vulnerable to the wee from what you had said. You are of course, at liberty to own as many rugs as you like, I only suggested selling them if you needed the money to buy storage boxes, which I can see from subsequent posts are not appropriate.

By the way, I don't understand where your hay is stored? I can't see it in the photos :o

I am glad YO seems to have stepped in, and I hope the change is long-lasting. :)
 
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Started to read this yesterday but didn't post as was reading on phone. Have not read right through it all tonight as lost the will to live halfway thru the bit I hadn't already read.

My take on this (which probably goes against the grain here) is that although yes it's disgusting and in the absence of any resolution between you and the lady concerned I'd expect the yard owner to deal with it, I think reading your posts that both you and the lady have been happily sharing the same livery yard for what 5 years now? That has to count for something.

Personally I wouldn't want to and wouldn't consider moving my horse because of it but I would try again to speak to the lady concerned. Maybe you caught her on an off day or whatever? It's a shame if after 5 years it's come to this and you can't sort it out between you.

I've just looked at the picture you took of the stables and you mention that this morning the lady had tried to catch it with a bucket - that's a start. Surely you can build on that? If she's tried to catch it then perhaps the YO has had a word with her or maybe she's had second thoughts and regrets blowing up with you? Either way she's trying to do something rather than going on the offensive and doing nothing.

Nothing good will come of getting nasty or following up some of the suggestions made in this thread. I don't think you can ignore it for one minute but I do think there's a lot to be gained by being diplomatic. Win-win that way and everyone stays happy.
 
What is the matter with everyone? It's unacceptable, end of. My bet is the mare is weeing for your pony's benefit (in season and in his face) so hence directing it towards the rugs. Put a big tarp over the rugs and your hay for a short term measure. What a thoughtless, arrogant woman.
 
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Well, I for one would feel really awkward if my horse did it's business on anyone else's belongings, and absolutely mortified if it happened more than once especially if I knew I could have prevented it. I fully understand the OPs frustration and understand how she is feeling, I'd be equally fuming.

I can only hope that the effort your neighbour has made since you spoke to her continues, and her wee-catching-in-a-bucket skills improve considerably pretty quickly! Maybe now she has made an effort you could "help" her to find a solution to the problem by initiating a brain-storming session where you both come up with some suggestions until you find one you both like?

Failing that I would go out of my way to try to catch her horse's wee in one of her own feedbuckets whenever you can "sorry but it was the closest thing to hand at the time", and leaving it for her (preferably somewhere she'll trip over it and spill it onto her rugs and/or hay!!)
 
Whether or not the OP could prove that ammonia has caused respiratory damage to her horse over time is isn't the issue here.. it is true that it can and does happen, and it's very likely that some cases are mis-diagnosed as having COPD caused by dust.
Sometimes a horse becomes sensitive to it, and starts coughing. A simple change from straw to alternative bedding can be all it takes to cure the problem if caught early enough, but because the owner may have been told it's a dust allergy, they also start to wet the hay or change over to haylage, so never really realize it may have been a possibility..
 
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