In a bit of a pickle - what to do next?

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Hi all, hoping for some advice - preferably without people telling me I've been stupid - I feel pretty dumb already!

On Tuesday I bought a saddle from a girl who contacted me via a wanted advert on Preloved. Paid Tuesday evening (via bank transfer, she said she did not have Paypal), she said she would send by courier first thing on Wednesday and would send me tracking number etc in the morning.

At lunch time Weds she confirmed it was on its way and would be delivered same day. I texted her again Weds eve when it hadn't arrived, and she replied and said it would be delivered by midday today. Nothing all day today - I've sent several messages and called twice with no reply. She never did give me a tracking number!

Now thinking she has no intention of sending the saddle - any suggestions for what to do next?

I've got her name, number, bank details, email - and have found her on Facebook so know her location too, and also have facebook details of her parents. I've been very nice so far - but what next? Try to scare her with threats of police/legal action? Threaten to name and shame her online, to her school etc? Contact her parents? Be patient a bit longer? Or something else?


Any helpful suggestions appreciated - I can't really afford to lose the money, but am aware I am in a very vulnerable position :(

thanks!
 
Surrey - I think the person I bought it from is up in Manchester though.
 
This is really similar to a story that was on here a few days ago - I'll see if I can find the thread, it might be the same scammer :(
 
No point speaking to your bank. Reversals on faster payments do not exist. They will not take it forward as is a civil dispute.
 
Yes speak to your bank and do an indemnity claim, they can get the money back from who you sent it to. I sold a saddle from my preloved ad and was paid by bank transfer, but I shipped it from post office with a tracking number and it arrived safely with buyer so there are genuine people out there, just bad luck you may have been conned :-( definitely do an indemnity claim though.
 
Yes speak to your bank and do an indemnity claim, they can get the money back from who you sent it to. I sold a saddle from my preloved ad and was paid by bank transfer, but I shipped it from post office with a tracking number and it arrived safely with buyer so there are genuine people out there, just bad luck you may have been conned :-( definitely do an indemnity claim though.

You do an indemnity on a direct debit. you can't raise an indemnity on a faster payment transfer.
 
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I will PM you as I think this is the same person that has been mentioned this week on a Facebook page and I know there are a group of people try into get together to get this delt with by police.
 
Can't find the thread, sorry. From what I can remember another poster went through basically the same thing and couldn't get the money back through the bank, but did manage to get the girl/woman's parents to refund the money when she contacted them and told them what had gone on... I'll have another search for the thread, perhaps someone else can remember it.
 
Thanks everyone - looks like it is the same person :(

Have contacted her parents, and will speak to the bank tomorrow.

Gutted.
 
Im hoping it isn't the same girl that scammed me a few months back... and to a lot of other people. Her first name is Sophie? If it is, there is a fb group and has details of the police ref number to report it to.

Cross fingers you get your money back
 
First name is Poppy.

Sounds very similar though - did you have any luck getting your money back?
 
I was scammed by Sophie; did get money back but only by putting the wind up her and I was in contact with others she had ripped off too. If it's the same person possibly using a different name let me know as I have all details on her and she is already known to police.
 
I think it's a different person - after a bit of digging she is very well known in Kent (not Manchester as I thought) for doing this to people.

Have reported to police etc, but Bank will not do anything about the money - so doubt there is anything I can do to be honest.

Unless anyone has any bright ideas? She seems utterly shameless. :(
 
Start a small claims court action against her and also insist the police treat it as fraud or theft. Then contact every single person you can find who is associated with her and make sure they know what she has done - parents, work, anyone. A friend had this with another girl who scams all the time and got her money back from them by making sure they knew she would not give up and would hound them continually.
 
I think it's a different person - after a bit of digging she is very well known in Kent (not Manchester as I thought) for doing this to people.(

So you think it is Sophie from Ashtead in Kent? If so I got my money back by saying I was going to turn up on her doorstep and texted her the home address I had for her which was obviously correct. I also found out her yard, registration of horsebox she goes out showing in (competing presumably funded by us lot), her Dad's business address and more. I also sent text after text after text to the point that it must have got very annoying and gave her the idea that I wasn't just going to let the matter lie. Eventually she texted me back pretending to be her mum (later found out she has 2 or more phones) and apologised and refunded. I tried to report to police but everyone dealing with it was on annual leave and as I then got my refund I didn't report it but would be happy to add my case/statement to the numerous others as she deserves to be banged up. There must be countless people who are not as stubborn as I am who have just given up.
 
Hell, this is on one of the fb saddles pages:

RE: POPPY VALENTINE EASTWOOD. EVERYONE THAT HAS HAD THE MISFORTUNE OF LOSING MONEY TO THIS PERSON MUST CONTACT THE FRAUD ACTION LINE ON 0300 123 2040. THE POLICE WILL BUILD A CASE SO I CAN'T STRESS ENOUGH HOW IMPORTANT THIS IS - PLEASE RELAY THIS POST TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW THAT HAS BEEN SCAMMED BY HER. THANK YOU-
 
Hi - Poppy from Kent caught me and others re a wanted add on Preloved - we have started a Facebook page. And if you could PM me her details especially address I would like to try and get my money back as police don't seem interested.
 
If she has "posted" the saddle with a tracking number and it hasnt arrived, her contract of delivery is with the post office. That means that it is up to her to claim from them, if you contact her and she tries to pull that stunt x
 
Hi - I have been scammed by this person - any chance you could let me have her addr? I have found one Poppy Eastwood but seems to be near Broadstairs - is that the one? Its a lot of money and as the police aren't interested I would like to take it further

Thanks Katherine
 
Am a bit confused; are there 2 people trying the same scam or is Sophie now using the pseudonym Poppy? I only have details for Sophie.
 
The person I was scammed by is Poppy Eastwood.

Her twitter acc is https://twitter.com/poppyvalentinex

Her address (as I have been given) is 123 louilbonds avenue, Orpington
Bromley

She seems to have deleted her Facebook by all accounts so can't find out much more about her, but if anyone else has details please let me know.
 
So sorry to her this has happened. There are some properly scabby heartless people out there.

Make a massive fuss - I had a fraud incident on my phone account and it took 8 weeks to sort it out/make people listen. I had to email the managing director of EE to sort it. Moral of the story - make a MASSIVE fuss about it. Do not settle until you have your money back. This could mean if they catch this person it may stop it from happening to someone else.

Good luck. Hope it gets sorted. These people are vile.
 
The person I was scammed by is Poppy Eastwood.

Her twitter acc is https://twitter.com/poppyvalentinex

Her address (as I have been given) is 123 louilbonds avenue, Orpington
Bromley

She seems to have deleted her Facebook by all accounts so can't find out much more about her, but if anyone else has details please let me know.



Roadtrip ;) I'll happily go chap her front door..... :)
 
She comes and goes off Facebook as people confront her. Please band together to report her on the number shown. Please do NOT make this thread threatening or do anything which will make HHO pull it...this person has done this countless times, is still doing it and getting away with theft. Have a look at Kent Equestrian on FB if you want to get in touch with some of her other victims.
 
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