In hand showing-lots of questions!

benson21

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Hi, after a long think, we are looking to venture into in hand showing. We have lots of people giving us advice and I am getting confused!
What is the difference between welsh section a, b, c and d's?
The idea I have got is I want something about 12.2hh, that needs the plaiting for shows, so what sort of horse pony do I need to look for? What breed?
What would a man wear for the in hand showing classes?
Like I say, just thinking about it at the moment, but there seems to be so many options and I am not sure what we are looking for!
 
Welsh's are shown naturally so you dont plait them for shows. The difference in the A, B's and C's is the height. I think A's are upto to 12hh and b's upto 13.2hh. Not sure about what should be warn as never shown anything to a high level. I'm sure there are better experts on this than me.
 
You could do riding pony breeding. These are quality ponies they can be sec b or sec b part breds, these would be shown plaited. Sec bs shown in M&M classess should be shown natural. You would then have the option of two classes with a sec b. Men should wear shirt and tie a tweed jacket, moleskin trousers and sensible brow shoes, a flat cap is optional, but does finish the look off.
 
I you want to plait then you should look for a part bred or riding pony. However pure bred registered M&M's are lovely and you don't have to worry about plaiting as they are shown natural (but just as pretty!) The difference in the Welsh sections are mainly height and type, if you google the different sections there will be lots of information and pictures to compare. Equally for the height your after you could look at Dartmoor ponies, Exmoor ponies and even small new forests.
 
Section A's are 'welsh mountain ponies' and up to 12hh. Section B's are 'welsh ponies' and up to 13.2hh. Section C's are 'welsh ponies of cob type' and also up to 13.2hh. Section D's are 'welsh cobs' and are over 13.2hh with no upper limit. The As, Cs and Ds are of similar type with the Bs being finer build.

If you wanted to plait for shows, a part-bred would be a good option as Pastie said. Another option would be a coloured, or even odd-coloured.
 
Section A's are 'welsh mountain ponies' and up to 12hh. Section B's are 'welsh ponies' and up to 13.2hh. Section C's are 'welsh ponies of cob type' and also up to 13.2hh. Section D's are 'welsh cobs' and are over 13.2hh with no upper limit. The As, Cs and Ds are of similar type with the Bs being finer build.

If you wanted to plait for shows, a part-bred would be a good option as Pastie said. Another option would be a coloured, or even odd-coloured.

I thought Cs were up to 14.2hh, and are basically small welsh cobs, so normally heavier in type than the Section A.

A lot of riding ponies are arab crosses, TB crosses or welsh crosses. So if you want to plait but also have lots of options on classes you are eligable for you could go for a arab x welsh a or b, then you could do riding pony classes, part bred M&M and part bred arab!
 
I thought Cs were up to 14.2hh, and are basically small welsh cobs, so normally heavier in type than the Section A.

Nope, if a C goes over 13.2hh, it should technically be re-registered as a D.
I believe that 'section E' is the section that all geldings are registered in (A,B,C and D) with the main register being for breeding stock only. However, it's still an A,B,C or D for showing purposes.
 
Agree with the a - up to 12hh shown natural
b - 12 (I think) - 13.2 shown natural/ or shown. Lighter build. (natural in M & M classes, plaited in riding pony classes)
C - 12.2 - 13.2 Ponies of cob type.
D - 13.3 and pver. Welsh Cob

If you want to plait (why oh why???? :p) you can't go wrong with a B or part bred.

Good idea to go along to a decent level show and watch some classes - get a catalogue so you know what you are looking at. You will see mens turnout too - cords/trousers, brown boots, short, tie, tweed jacket, flat cap etc.

Have fun!!
 
show pony or riding ponyif you want to plait and spend hours getting your plaits to look beautiful and even. I'd go for a nice traditional fell personally!
 
Indeed, just what I had in mind!! Wish I was six again!!!

Me too!! Was never allowed a pony when I was small enough to have one of these. If I have children and they are not horsey I WILL borrow someone elses to do l/r show pony classes!
 
Benson, you could also "borrow" a little jockey and do some lead rein or first ridden classes.

I'm sure there are lots of children out there who are decent enough little riders but don't have a pony, or don't have one that is good enough to show. Maybe ask at riding schools and pony clubs if you don't know any small children, you could get mum & dad to contribute to keep then as well win win situation :D :D :D
 
Thats certainly an idea to try and find a little jockey. So, another question, what sort of money is reasonable to pay for something that fits the bill?
 
Thats certainly an idea to try and find a little jockey. So, another question, what sort of money is reasonable to pay for something that fits the bill?

Why dont you go to Fayre Oaks sale, I think it is in september. Worth it as there will be a huge choice of section As and section Bs and riding ponies. Some go for thousands and some for a few hundred. Whatever it is also a good day out, even better with a cheque book. Good luck!
 
Depends what level you want to show to. £1500 - £2000 will get you something very nice. Less if you go for a real yojngster - the sales are a good idea as mentioned above, although can be dangerous (come home with whatever you can cram into your transport.....)
 
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