missymoo
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So is mine but until it happeneds to you cant say how you will react.
Infuriating.....first rant
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Hippona
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Yes...I have ranted at drivers...I have been know to wack car roofs with my schooling whip if they too close...and lets face it, it you can reach the car roof with a whip....then they are WAY too close.
On the other hand...most drivers are good, and I thank them accordingly.
TBH.....I wouldnt want to be endeared to an idiot speeding driver with no thought for other road users....he pisses me off and puts me and my horse in danger from his reckless driving.....he gets the fingers and a rant off in return....fairs fair folks.
On the other hand...most drivers are good, and I thank them accordingly.
TBH.....I wouldnt want to be endeared to an idiot speeding driver with no thought for other road users....he pisses me off and puts me and my horse in danger from his reckless driving.....he gets the fingers and a rant off in return....fairs fair folks.
Hornby
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I am sorry to say that in this day and age I treat car drivers (I am one) as being in possession of a lethal weapon and some people do use their cars like that
(Either through aggression, stupidity or senility
) so I would never - no matter how bad their driving - put myself or my horse in a position where I increased the chances of them hitting me. Please be careful in future.
ester
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but if you fell off and were knocked out?
Granted you would have a lose horse aswell tho, and that is prob worse.
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.......but that could happen anywhere, not just on the roads...are you saying that we shouldn't ride on roads for fear off falling off and getting knocked out?
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no that was more linked to the loose dogs on the road issue, would be less of an issue if you weren't on a road (depends how far from a road you were!)
I ride on the roads all the time, I have no school and one v short bridleway accesible only by the A38. the last time I fell off (on arse) was because a jogger came round a quiet bend and spooked pone and we went opposite ways. Just think the dogs are an extra confusion but maybe thats just because I struggle doing multiple things at once.
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but if you fell off and were knocked out?
Granted you would have a lose horse aswell tho, and that is prob worse.
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.......but that could happen anywhere, not just on the roads...are you saying that we shouldn't ride on roads for fear off falling off and getting knocked out?
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no that was more linked to the loose dogs on the road issue, would be less of an issue if you weren't on a road (depends how far from a road you were!)
I ride on the roads all the time, I have no school and one v short bridleway accesible only by the A38. the last time I fell off (on arse) was because a jogger came round a quiet bend and spooked pone and we went opposite ways. Just think the dogs are an extra confusion but maybe thats just because I struggle doing multiple things at once.
Hippona
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Aaahh...now I see...well our dogs are mental...no way would I ride with mine, but I know people who have/do.....each to their own
itsme123
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My driving instructor (a very well respected BSM instuctor, with a very high pass rate) tells all his pupils:
"treat every other road user like they're an idiot... expect them to do something stupid and you'll be fine".
That goes for horse riders too. If, as drivers, we expect horse riders to do something stupid (like using their horse to block the road), then as horse riders we should expect drivers to NOT respect us, and to drive too fast.
If someone's coming too close, hold your whip out to signal them to go wider, wear Hi viz with the words PLEASE PASS WIDE AND SLOW (My daughter has LEARNER RIDER on hers... it definately helps!), THANK every driver (because it may just inspire them to slow down next time too).
We passed two riders in Middleton (northants) wearing Zilch Hi Viz, we slowed right down as they were riding two abreast up a main road near to a very nasty bend going up the hill at the back end of East Carlton Park. Not one of them even acknowledged us, let alone thanked us. My OH (who isnt horsey) 's words were "what a pair of arrogant snobs". I couldnt really argue with that. I do hope those riders read this and are thoroughly ashamed of themselves... On the way home we passed a young groom, in the same village, who was leading a horse down the road and had the decency to USE the verge, Stop, and thank us with a smile and a raised hand.
Riders need to be more careful, more visible and more sensible, and then, and ONLY then will we perhaps get a bit of respect from other road users.
OP may have reacted out of anger, but it still doesnt make it right.
My driving instructor (a very well respected BSM instuctor, with a very high pass rate) tells all his pupils:
"treat every other road user like they're an idiot... expect them to do something stupid and you'll be fine".
That goes for horse riders too. If, as drivers, we expect horse riders to do something stupid (like using their horse to block the road), then as horse riders we should expect drivers to NOT respect us, and to drive too fast.
If someone's coming too close, hold your whip out to signal them to go wider, wear Hi viz with the words PLEASE PASS WIDE AND SLOW (My daughter has LEARNER RIDER on hers... it definately helps!), THANK every driver (because it may just inspire them to slow down next time too).
We passed two riders in Middleton (northants) wearing Zilch Hi Viz, we slowed right down as they were riding two abreast up a main road near to a very nasty bend going up the hill at the back end of East Carlton Park. Not one of them even acknowledged us, let alone thanked us. My OH (who isnt horsey) 's words were "what a pair of arrogant snobs". I couldnt really argue with that. I do hope those riders read this and are thoroughly ashamed of themselves... On the way home we passed a young groom, in the same village, who was leading a horse down the road and had the decency to USE the verge, Stop, and thank us with a smile and a raised hand.
Riders need to be more careful, more visible and more sensible, and then, and ONLY then will we perhaps get a bit of respect from other road users.
OP may have reacted out of anger, but it still doesnt make it right.
pottamus
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You are indeed putting yourself and animals at risk being out at that time of night and putting your horse accross the road!
Good lord what are you thinking of.
Good lord what are you thinking of.
amandaco2
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i think taking the dogs on a road is a risky even if they are really well behaved and good.there is always a risk they can see something and run out.
the man should have slowed down and given you lots of room as you should always be driving defensively not matter the time of day.
the man should have slowed down and given you lots of room as you should always be driving defensively not matter the time of day.
Fransurrey
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At 5:15 it's pretty much dark around here! Am I on a different planet?!? I do ride after dark, but as well as reflectives (on me), I also have a reflective exercise sheet, 4 reflective boots on the pony (plus 2" reflective neck strap) and enough lights to make people brake sharpish way before the obstruction is an issue (they've said to me they've wondered what the heck that mass of lights and reflectives is - you can't see poor Henry until you're up close!). All I do is cross the lane and then it's all off road (if you don't count the byways).
I think the reason you're getting 'bashed', OP, is because you A) had loose dogs in dim light conditions and I wouldn't take ANY dog out like that, without at least a reflective/flashing light collar (lead or no lead), regardless of how well you think they are trained and B) you put your horse in a position of danger for the sake of making a point. No way would I put my horse across the road if I thought a car was going too fast!
I do believe that after 4:30pm at the moment, reflectives aren't enough as the light goes in minutes (and I am dripping with reflectives and fluorescents, believe me!). You should be wearing lights, to help drivers see you, especially if you ride under trees. Flashing vests are brilliant and I only paid £8 for mine.
If nothing else, I get a compliment on how 'festive' I look, or a surprised hello from a motorist who then says, 'Ooh aren't you brave' or 'No-one will miss you!'.
I'm known for being OTT on my reflective fetish, but I haven't ever had ONE person tell me off for being out after dark in my village (apart from an old lady, who heard clip clops and thought Henry had escaped, lol!). I've even come across night-time off-roaders and mountain bikers, who are all pleasantly suprised to meet a little horse out there!
I think the reason you're getting 'bashed', OP, is because you A) had loose dogs in dim light conditions and I wouldn't take ANY dog out like that, without at least a reflective/flashing light collar (lead or no lead), regardless of how well you think they are trained and B) you put your horse in a position of danger for the sake of making a point. No way would I put my horse across the road if I thought a car was going too fast!
I do believe that after 4:30pm at the moment, reflectives aren't enough as the light goes in minutes (and I am dripping with reflectives and fluorescents, believe me!). You should be wearing lights, to help drivers see you, especially if you ride under trees. Flashing vests are brilliant and I only paid £8 for mine.
If nothing else, I get a compliment on how 'festive' I look, or a surprised hello from a motorist who then says, 'Ooh aren't you brave' or 'No-one will miss you!'.
I'm known for being OTT on my reflective fetish, but I haven't ever had ONE person tell me off for being out after dark in my village (apart from an old lady, who heard clip clops and thought Henry had escaped, lol!). I've even come across night-time off-roaders and mountain bikers, who are all pleasantly suprised to meet a little horse out there!
annunziata
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totally off subject but doggy dancing that is so so cool i saw some at Olympia looked so cool is it hard to teach them??
Shilasdair
Patting her thylacine
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II put the chambon on as i knew her head carriage would be high as she has missed her hacks and need her more together (trainer advised to use it) so i have a nice hack and coming to end i stop to take chambon off 5min from home so she can relax (or put her head high to look over hedges!).
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Am I the only one who is confused that you appear to be riding in a Chambon?
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II put the chambon on as i knew her head carriage would be high as she has missed her hacks and need her more together (trainer advised to use it) so i have a nice hack and coming to end i stop to take chambon off 5min from home so she can relax (or put her head high to look over hedges!).
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Am I the only one who is confused that you appear to be riding in a Chambon?
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JM07
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II put the chambon on as i knew her head carriage would be high as she has missed her hacks and need her more together (trainer advised to use it) so i have a nice hack and coming to end i stop to take chambon off 5min from home so she can relax (or put her head high to look over hedges!).
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Am I the only one who is confused that you appear to be riding in a Chambon?
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II put the chambon on as i knew her head carriage would be high as she has missed her hacks and need her more together (trainer advised to use it) so i have a nice hack and coming to end i stop to take chambon off 5min from home so she can relax (or put her head high to look over hedges!).
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Am I the only one who is confused that you appear to be riding in a Chambon?
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ester
Not slacking multitasking
FranSurrey- It depends where you are, think cos sun sets in west, here in the westcountry it is def ok at 5.15, though would want to be nearly home with lights etc.
AgentM
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You can't control other peoples actions, only your own. Since your horse and dog are so well trained, and sound so unfussed by the approaching car, why did you not just let him pass? Surely would've caused you a lot less stress and bother. Putting your mare in the road sounds dangerous for all of you.
cmarychapman
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Horse riders have as much right to safely use the roads at any time of day/night as car drivers.
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Being slightly exteme!! You can legally have the right to drive at 70mph on a motorway but that doesnt always mean that its safe to do so.
Like driving a car its common sense that you should ride to the conditions of the road and in icy weather or poor visibility consider whether it is really a necessary. journey. Of course no one suggests you should only be out in bright sunshine but a complete cavalier attitude to road safety to exercise ones rights is just asking for trouble IMO.
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Horse riders have as much right to safely use the roads at any time of day/night as car drivers.
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Being slightly exteme!! You can legally have the right to drive at 70mph on a motorway but that doesnt always mean that its safe to do so.
Like driving a car its common sense that you should ride to the conditions of the road and in icy weather or poor visibility consider whether it is really a necessary. journey. Of course no one suggests you should only be out in bright sunshine but a complete cavalier attitude to road safety to exercise ones rights is just asking for trouble IMO.
Dubsie
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Isn't it law where you are that dogs have to be on a lead on a public road? My oldie is fab off the lead, people joke he has an invisible lead becasue he follows half a step behind to my side, but I never take him up the road off the lead(dead end country lane with minimal traffic in half of it going to the pub) just in case.