$!*&ing Buyers!!!!!! (sorry, rant alert)!!!!!

[Chambon]

I have had enough!

Of buyers messing me around. Why do people do this? Why oh why?

I have had just about everything thrown at me in the last couple of weeks:

- People not turning up (and Ive sent the family out for the day without me, bathed the horse and got it ready etc and then they don't even let me know they are not coming, they just don't turn up)

- People trying to haggle the price down when they haven't even seen the horse

- People saying they want it, me sorting transport etc and arranging to wean the foal they want and then they say they have changed their minds.

And now the final straw, a phonecall from someone a million miles away thats wants to buy the horse over the phone and me to ship him.....

Why can't people just be honest, I am SO mad

It is hard enough for me to part with my babies, and I am just being messed about. I am fuming!

Sorry, not expecting replies here, just needed to get this off my chest.

 

[Donkeymad]

And did the overseas one want to send a cheque above the value of the horse?(typical scam)

Selling horses is such a frought business, I hate it.

 

[Chambon]

No, it wasn't one of those! The husband and wife did both phone me and emailed me photos of their yard & horses.

I just don't believe a word anyone says anymore, perhaps I'm just too cynical now!

 

[kerilli]

it's a nightmare, i know... but i sold my last one on horsequest, and wrote such a long essay about her and about what i was looking for in a purchaser, that it answered 99% of people's questions. i heard nothing from anyone for a couple of weeks, then the first person to see her bought her, no problem (and still loves her to bits). yes, i guess i was very lucky, but at least i think all those details deterred the muppets and timewasters.
how dare anyone try to haggle on price before they've seen the horse? i'd say i wasn't interested in them any more, instantly.
there are genuine people out there. keep smiling through!

 

[Chambon]

Keep smiling? I'm trying

Just had email from the people that asked me to ship the colt (after I mailed them and asked them to post me a deposit if they were serious) and they replied and said they didn't have a cheque book and could they have my bank details.....

Have I got MUG tattooed across my forehead?

 

[Smash]

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they replied and said they didn't have a cheque book and could they have my bank details

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Oh sure! May as well chuck in a few extras while you're at it - National insurance number, credit card details, PIN number, inside leg measurement...

I would be emailing them back letting them know that I'm selling my horse, not my indentity.

 

[Fahrenheit]

I would just tell them that posting you a bankers draft will be fine as you aren't comfortable giving out your bank details and tell them the foal will be shipped when it has cleared the bank! That way if they are serious you haven't offended them adnif they are scammers you haven't given them your bank details, if they get funny you know they aren't ligit!

 

[josephinebutter2]

Poor you!

I'm having the same problems trying to buy a horse - I just don't trust anyone anymore!

You travel for miles to see the perfect horse, and it turns out to be nothing like described, or it takes a grand prix level rider to get anything out of the lazy, stubborn thing!

Aaaahhhh!

 

[Faithkat]

Look on the bright side, at least you have had some response. I've got two for sale, the mare and her foal (separately or together, I don't mind which) and I have had NO response whatever, not even timewasters and neither of them is expensive, they are vrery much priced to sell. Oh, I did get one of those scam e-mails today asking me if I still had the 16.2hh IDxTB for sale . . . . erm. . . . what ?????? I have a 15.3hh Anglo Arab and/or a For sale at weaning chestnut-turning-grey AA X WB to make 16/16/1hh!!!

 

[Chambon]

Mmm, can we do a swap?

I would rather have no enquiries than the trail of muppets I've dealt with recently! I could have spent the day with my family on the beach instead of scrubbing and cleaning and polishing for someone who didn't even have the decency to tell me that they had found something else and weren't coming at all.

 

[Skhosu]

ugh..we did get phoned and he said he saw the advert for the horse, did we have any donkeys???! And did we know where he could get one???!

 

[Faithkat]

Oh dear and I was thinking of putting up a post asking if horses were selling at the moment. I wasn't expecting her to go straight away - the mare, that is, as I have advertised her as being available from end of September (when I wean the foal) but I did think I might get some tentative enquiries and by the time people get their act together it will be the end of September. I'm getting to the stage that I think I'll have to "arrange" some ghastly accident (well, they ARE insured

) . . . I want them GONE!!!!!

 

[*hic*]

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Keep smiling? I'm trying

Just had email from the people that asked me to ship the colt (after I mailed them and asked them to post me a deposit if they were serious) and they replied and said they didn't have a cheque book and could they have my bank details.....

Have I got MUG tattooed across my forehead?

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Chambon NO don't panic or get cross - this is a GOOD thing! The info they have asked for should be no more than Bank A/c Name, Sort code and account number. You give that information out everytime you write a cheque. They are asking (probably) to do a bank transfer which is incredibly safe for you. Once the money has been in your account for 24 hours they can't get it back, unlike a cheque which can be bounced MONTHS after being paid in.

It's my preferred form of payment because it's so quick and secure. You can even ask them to stump up the £21 charge for the money to be in your account by the end of the banking day..

I do hope this has helped

 

[Chambon]

Ooopsie!!!!!

So I shouldn't have told them to Naff off then?

No, seriously, I didn't. I have given them bank account details (for an empty saver account) and they have said it will take them 2 days to get the funds into their right account, but that they will transfer the full asking price on Thursday.....

They haven't even seen the colt, only pictures.... should I be worried?

 

[JadeWisc]

Not if you get the money.

I would be SURE to have them email or post you a signed document stating that they are buying the colt unseen and as is and that there are no refunds of any kind under any circumstances one the sale has been completed and the colt shipped. I would also have them agree (in writing or via email conformation) that they are responsible for ALL shipping insurance and costs and that once the horse has been delivered to the shipping company you are no longer responsible for the colt in any way. They assume all liability and risk

See patches posts from last week about what happened to her friend when a buyer was not happy with the horse!

I *think* an email conformation from them stating all of this would be legally binding if you printed it and saved it just as a signed document


Be sure though and if not make sure they mail you a signed copy before shipping him.


That brings me to another point....
I assume you are sending him to another country? If that is the case whos laws apply to the sale? The buyers or the sellers? Check if an email would be binding from where they are from too I would say


hmmmm....I may just be complicating things! lol

I will stop now...I am a rather paranoid individual!

 

[xfeex]

I know how you feel, I have just sold two both fell in love with the photos and had stables ready for them before they came to look. I said hang on come and have a sit on them and what have you first! any way they both still sold.

Its my yearling I am having trouble selling. people think they can buy them for silly low prices like £800. You can not breed one for that! £500 stud fee £250 vet package, cost of the mare and keeping them while at stud then for 11 months while in foal. then 6 months till weaning. then I have kept her for another year (stabled all winter on livery!) Plus regitering fees, injections etc...

Not to mention all the stress of breeding, I have her advertised at £2000, she has probably cost me more than double that up to now! she is reg sports horse by andes and spot on handling her, with farrier... everything. I just dont know where some people get there pricing from! There are others advertised, the same quality for more than double the price of mine!

 

[Faithkat]

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Its my yearling I am having trouble selling. people think they can buy them for silly low prices like £800. You can not breed one for that! £500 stud fee £250 vet package, cost of the mare and keeping them while at stud then for 11 months while in foal. then 6 months till weaning. then I have kept her for another year (stabled all winter on livery!) Plus regitering fees, injections etc...

Not to mention all the stress of breeding, I have her advertised at £2000, she has probably cost me more than double that up to now! she is reg sports horse by andes and spot on handling her, with farrier... everything. I just dont know where some people get there pricing from! There are others advertised, the same quality for more than double the price of mine!

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Oh, how true. I've got my foal up for sale at weaning at the end of September. I'm asking £2500 for her and I really depressed myself yesterday by working out how much she has cost me. Thus far and not counting feed, worming, insurance and vaccinations (she's too young for them at the moment) but including microchipping and registration, she has cost me £2107.84 so by asking £2500 at weaning I won't actually have made anything.

 

[Chambon]

Oh, it just gets better and better.....

I have just had an email from somebody I know (would you believe), offering me HALF of the asking price for one of my foals, on the condition that they can register the foal in their name (ie their name as the breeder).

I've heard it all now.