Interesting article about hip dysplasia/exercising young puppies from a vet (taken from Quincegrove Working English Springers site)

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''Exercising Puppies
There is an article doing the rounds 'busting the myth' of only exercising pups for 5minutes per month of life. I'd share it, but I got blocked for criticising aspects of the article!
There are two proven non-gentic risk factors for hip dysplasia that I have seen papers on. These are rearing on a slippery surface and stair climbing in young pups. Neither was mentioned in the article. A study on crating GSD pups from the 70s was mentioned, and I agree this was a poor study. We can't prevent joint disease by keeping pups in small cages, and if we could it would be to the detriment of their physical and mental health in other ways. The author says that baby wolves do huge migrations, but dogs aren't wolves. Wolves don't have the luxury of dying of old age. True enough... we can test our genetics to destruction by exercising our young dogs hard, and this is probably how the Victorian dog breeders avoided genetic disease. If mum and dad were brother and sister and they dog wasn't crippled by 2 years old from jumping 5 bar gates as a pup then the genetics were probably sound!
So why the '5 minute rule' ? It's simple. People like simple. Remember 'hands, face, space'? Simple. I think (hope) it has been a long time since vets and breeders blindly trotted out this rule, but it does get the idea across that puppy exercise needs some limits. Left to their own devices pups run, jump, climb, play, sleep. LOTS of sleep. The risk on long lead walks is that they get tired then trip and stumble and sprain ligaments. I've seen it even if I haven't published a paper on it. So lead walks are fine, and the odd longer one on weekends is also fine, but watch for your pup needing a rest. Free play is great! Your pup will develop balance and co-ordination and stress the joints in a way that promotes strong growth. But free play with a bigger or older dog risks injuries. I've seen too many growth plate fractures from adult- pup rough and tumble. It is great for dog social skills, but step in when it gets too rowdy.
Jumping? What about jumping? Again, in moderation it won't destroy a genetically healthy joint but going over and over and over full height agility equipment... repetitive movements can cause abnormal loading and damage. I'm not a fan of pups jumping in and out of trucks, chasing balls, or doing lots of stairs either. But if they pop a log in the woods or do parkour over the sofa back (mine!) then don't panic. Remember your pup needs 16-18 hours sleep and that too much running and chasing can stimulate them rather than wearing them out. Not all exercise has to be physical. Do some training! It is low physical impact but mentally exhausting.
The TL:DR
There are no hard and fast guidelines for safe puppy exercise. Encourage your pup to have free play as well as lead walks always stopping for a rest if they are tired. Build up walks gradually and don't use long walks or ball chasing as an alternative to mentally stimulating your pup.''


Interesting, as at 10 months, I have only just allowed the pups upstairs under supervision. I don't really see the need for them to come up, but I allow it if I am there to slow down the descent!
 

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Good read, thanks for sharing. Re the wolves issue, it would be interesting to see the rates of joint issues and hip dysplasia in well-established feral or stray dog populations.
 

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I agree with using the 5 minute rule as a baseline

All those who say their six month old dog would go nuts with only a 30 min walk what mental games and training do you do with them.

After having a 3 yr old collie pts with bad hip dysplasia which was diagnosed at 11 months old. We rehomed him at 5 months and he was already doing two hour walks on the weekends as he was a 'collie' and needed to run.

My collies have had between 30 minutes and an hour a day depending on the weather and also my health. They get lots of mental gamea and stimulation that wears them out for longer.
 

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I think I've read the article being referred to. OP is correct that stairs & slippery floors weren't addressed but tbf you simply can't look into every single factor in one study or literature review.

My takeaway for it was that a sensible balance between not overdoing things (especially with regards to high impact exercise such as sudden stops, sharp turns & jumping) & ensuring enough physical & mental stimulation for a growing puppy to prevent the development of problematic behaviours may be of more benefit than sticking to hard & fast rules, especially with dogs of breeds who are are already at low risk of joint issues anyway. Their rationale for this seemed to be that if they couldn't demonstrate joint damage doing a ridiculous amount of exercise then it seemed highly unlikely that the amount of exercise the average owner is likely to do with their dog would cause issues as long as the dog is healthy (but that it might highlight a problem that was already there lurking beneath the surface)

Surely it's sensible to start slow & build up duration gradually anyway (& try to encourage sniffing & exploring to tire the brain out as opposed to too much mindless racing about) as younger puppies are easily overwhelmed / overstimulated mentally anyway
 

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I agree with using the 5 minute rule as a baseline

All those who say their six month old dog would go nuts with only a 30 min walk what mental games and training do you do with them.

After having a 3 yr old collie pts with bad hip dysplasia which was diagnosed at 11 months old. We rehomed him at 5 months and he was already doing two hour walks on the weekends as he was a 'collie' and needed to run.

My collies have had between 30 minutes and an hour a day depending on the weather and also my health. They get lots of mental gamea and stimulation that wears them out for longer.

Exactly. I wouldn't run a 6 month old for 30 minutes.


Good read, thanks for sharing. Re the wolves issue, it would be interesting to see the rates of joint issues and hip dysplasia in well-established feral or stray dog populations.

They tend to die a lot younger.

With a combination of good genetics and careful management, I've managed to get my eldest two dogs to double figures and still very energetic/sound/capable and that's with doing a very physically demanding sport.
One of the most 'Internet famous/crowd favourite' dogs in my sport (done hundreds of trials and is famous for stripping sleeves off helpers in the long flight, did it twice at worlds in 2017) turned 12 last week and is still fit as a flea.
He had x-rays redone when he was ten or so and they were as clean as a whistle.

I do recall a poster getting incredibly upset when it was suggested that running a young dog into the ground for hours because it 'loved'/'needed' it would make problems at the other end of its life.
I love my oldies and I would hate to see them struggling/limping about after everything they've done for me.
 

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My six month old does 45 minutes. Yes he goes to obedience training also and we will sometimes go to the very local (3 minute walk) field purely for training on impulse control around other dogs etc rather than exercise.

Our 45 minutes on a normal day consists of 10 minute walk to the woods on a short lead, 20 minutes on a long line in the woods allowing him to sniff and explore as he sees fit, 5 minutes off lead on the field that runs along the woods to allow him to have a sprint if he fancies and 10 minutes on a short lead to walk home again.

Our 45 minutes isnt strenuous by any means. It doesnt knacker him out. It's just the right amount for him to stop him being a complete mischief.

There are days when he only goes out for a quick 20-30 minute walk, if I'm particularly busy with work. Dont I know about it though, when hes pinching my knickers and charging off across the garden parading them around ?

I dont think he is overdone, but each to their own.
 

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I think people who get all superior about the five minute rule are rather missing the point. It’s a simple message and it makes people think. I doubt any of us would pick our 16 week old pup up after it had moved for 20 minutes but if it just focuses peoples thoughts on too much exercise it can only be a good thing. It is very easy to keep exercising your pup so it sleeps, it’s much harder to engage with it to tire it out mentally.
 

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3x10 minute training sessions or a track are much more demanding than a walk, mentally and physically. They must also think and concentrate.
My breed is physically designed to conserve energy. You will rarely tire one out through speed or distance but some people think it is 'easier'. And you may stack up problems for later on.
Plus unmitigated tear-arsing around just makes them crazier, IMO.
 
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