Irish Draught Stallions Please!

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Mainland UK
Not grey
at least 10 inches of bone
at least 16hh
class 1
no King of Diamonds
Excellent temperament (and hopefully evidence of it in offspring too)

And you thought it was an easy question!!!

I have come across a few that are deceased that I like but I'd really rather meet 'Daddy' if at all possible!

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There is a stud in Lancashire called Bowlands. I was looking at putting my tb mare to bowlands blackjack. I think they've half a dozen stallions. Google them
 
Unfortunately it's a Bowland filly!! Blackjack has only 9 inches of bone and has King of Diamonds 3 generations back. She's directly related to the others apart from Diamond lodge, but he is grey and has King of Diamonds lines (3 generations back) as does the filly. I am considering Tobias Corbett but he is dead (can't see him) and although he doesn't have King of Diamonds, his Sire is a full brother of his. I would rather something that is a proper outcross. But thanks!!
 
Beeston Lord Henry standing in Reading Berkshire, I think he fills all the criteria, I havent looked to see he is still available but was on the ID website. I have just sold a gelding of his that I have had since a foal grew to 18hh HW beautiful looking chestnut with a kind genuine temp. BLH is an old fashioned type of ID.
 
Archie is lovely but is also King of Diamonds lines. I can only find one really crappy photo of Beeston Lord Henry. On paper he looks to fit the bill. Would love to try find out more him? Anybody know anything?
 
eatmyshorts said:
Have you considered Balinmore Irish Rebel?

http://www.stallionsonline.co.uk/stallion_38840.html

He belongs to a friend of mine, so having ridden him, i can vouch that his temperament is just amazing! He's also a suberb example of the breed & has such presence. Maybe not quite the 10inches of bone but this fella's knees are about the size of my head! He'll be at the upcoming Stallion Showcase GB if you want to see him in the flesh.
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He's grey! So although he is nice, no!
 
LOL! I deleted it as i reread & noticed you'd put Not Grey! I think you'll struggle to find a really good one who meets all the criteria, but very best of luck with your search & future foal! x
 
I quite like Hillviewfarm Milligan. I may forego the 1/4 inch!! The two deceased that I REALLY like are Snowford Bellman and Ebony Hill. Does anyone have any info on them? Am I right in thinking there is a problem with the remaining frozen semen from Ebony Hill?
 
eatmyshorts said:
LOL! I deleted it as i reread & noticed you'd put Not Grey! I think you'll struggle to find a really good one who meets all the criteria, but very best of luck with your search & future foal! x
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Yes that is why I want to breed along those lines! What's the point in breeding what there are loads of already?!! But it will have to be a super star that I REALLY love as well as I will probably keep the baby for myself!
 
Snowford bellman was a beautiful horse I used him 3 times , My friend Maggie owned him and has the frozen semen i would not hesitate to use him if I had a mare suitable, and as my only mare is his daughter I can't . I can let you have photos of my bellmans if you wish
 
ritajennings said:
Snowford bellman was a beautiful horse I used him 3 times , My friend Maggie owned him and has the frozen semen i would not hesitate to use him if I had a mare suitable, and as my only mare is his daughter I can't . I can let you have photos of my bellmans if you wish
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Yes Rita that is how I found him as Gloria is 300% my ideal horse! She was beautiful! :-(
 
If you don't mind a non RID then look at Maurice Minor who stands at Embla Stud near Stafford (no, they don't have a website or place any ads online!)
He's by Colman RID x Pebble Mill (gloun Rover RID. Bay, 17 hands and 10" of bone. He issues IDHS CCs on account of his progeny which are doing well in all disciplines; Grade A jumpers and advanced eventers. I've had three by him and would use him again if I was breeding again; all bay who move beautifully and have wonderful laid back temperaments; the eldest was third in his section on just his dressage score before going on to be very successful show hunter/ WH and is now a fantastic hunter often doing field master duties; the others are a 2 yr old and a foal. This is a pic of Maurice taken a fair few years ago.
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Thank you she was very special to me and very like Snowford Bellman.

Her foal by tobias Corbett was also very nice and has been kept entire by his owners so both stallions on your short list are very good choices in my opiion.
Avanti Justintime by Tobias Corbett Ex Gloria

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Gloria by Bellman Ex Winmaur Bright Alice
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Malcolm by Bellman full brother to Gloria and Gracie
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Gloria :-)
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Gracie Archie's Mummy :-)
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Good luck with your breeding plan let me know who you decide on please x
 
Your horses are all beautiful rita. We clearly like the same thing!! :-)

Does anybody have anything on ebony hill? Also maybe caerba legacy (sp?) at toux stud?
 
Kenson arogorn was also lovely and he had 170 dressage points Janet george bred a couple so she will be able to let you know whether he stamped them. Caerbra legacy has a lovely jump in him I have seen him at a couple of stallion shows, I don't know about EHill I am afraid
 
Maesfen he is very nice (and would be nice with my other ISH mare but I doubt I'll breed from her again) but I'd like an RID Class 1 stallion for this one.
 
What about Winmaur Sergeant Pepper - who is now back in the UK from America and will be standing in Lincolnshire. He's chestnut - by Snowford Bellman out of Snowford Bright Pink by Colman. He's quite small - but he throws decent size stock. Tony Phillips has also brought back his son, Sonrise Genesis, who is 16hh and bay - out of out of Winmaur Over The Top by Banks Fee Daniel. I'll certainly be popping over to Lincolnshire for a look once they've had a chance to settlein - see http://www.belltowerstud.com/
 
ritajennings said:
Kenson arogorn was also lovely and he had 170 dressage points Janet george bred a couple so she will be able to let you know whether he stamped them.
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lol, he didn't stamp mine! I had 4 - 2 colts and 2 fillies.

Indigo Sweet Magic was VERY nice - graded Class 1 - now sold - and had her first day's hunting at the Boxing Day Meet (brave owner!) The ONLY naughty thing she did was try to nick a sausage roll.

The other filly was TOTALLY different - she only got Class 2 at grading - scored very high on conformation and movement, but very badly for 'type' - you'd never guess she was an ID!:rolleyes:

Of the two boys, a chunky 16.1 who I have kept as a stallion although they put him Class 2 (trying to kick an Inspector's head off didn't help :D) but he's had a couple of very nice foals to date; and the other was HUGE - nearly killed his mother being born and didn't stop growing - I think he's about 17.2 now. He's gelded and now in Aberdeenshire doing dressage.

Although Kensons Aragorn was RID, he was actually 1/4 TB, which would explain inconsistencies in 'type'
 
What about Attwood Black Laughton also standing with Bowland Irish Draughts but he has frozen semen available.

17hh, black with 10" of bone.

I have fancied him for my own RID mare and as I wasn't wanting any KoD bloodlines, I am sure he fit that bill also.
 
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