Irish eventing lines?

[druid]

Ok for you eventers out there...what Irish lines stand out for you and why? Scope, temperament, trainabilty, etc.?

Also...are there any Irish SJing lines you'd consider as an otucross to a solid eventing mare?

 

[BBs]

Really liking the Cavalier Two for Joy line atm!

Know a few ppl who have horses from this sire, they are proving very trainable and scopey.

I went to see one at the weekend, he was lovely, very very green on the flat but bold in his outlook - however, they are going for silly prices atm.

But the line are producing good SJers or Eventers - they can be a bit sharp but willing.

Also liking the Diamond lines also proving very good for eventing.

 

[SillyMare]

Do you mean native Irish lines? A lot of the good ISH sires are actually imported TBs.

India's ID side was Legaun Prince and she is quite lightweight for a half-bred - I'm told his line tend to be a bit finer with less of the 'Irish' head than some of the other lines.

The Diamond lines are often very talented but can be ugly (sorry, I'm such a snob).

 

[lillie07]

Master Imp but im biased!!

 

[kirstyfk]

I had a very pretty horse from the diamond line on loan a few years back. He was by the conqueror so grandsire flagmount boy? Although His front legs came out of the same socket he had a heart of gold such a shame the girl who owned him did how do i say it - ruined him.

 

[Sarah_Jane]

I have an ISH by Diamond Clover which has both King of Diamond and Clover Hill lines. Nice temp, scopey and well put together although a bit thick! This horse also sired Tankers Town which is now producing the goods at top level.

 

[DanielleP]

ive got a king of diamonds line mare was a show jumper, was schooled for 2 months then went affiliated eventing, double clear. They are a bit loopy though, very brave but nutters!

 

[Jemayni]

I always like the clover hill horses, we also have a colourfield horse on our yard, I'd never met another horse by him but I love his temperment, he is really calm and trainable.

 

[druid]

By "irish" yes I mean genuinely natively Irish but any stallion/line recognised by the IHB as an approved foreign/imported stallion won't be sniffed at either!

Soooo....

Diamond lines (King of Diamonds), Clover Hill, Master Imp, Cavalier Two for Joy (don't like him sorry!), Tankers Town and Flagmount are your choices?

Any other takers?

And another Q...

Which ENGLISH (truly English bred, though parents can be foreign if bred horse in england..) stallion woudl you choose as your top eventing sire?

 

[kirstyfk]

TB i think

 

[Jemayni]

God I am pants at english bloodlines.... should really do some research

 

[kayleigh_and_rocky]

Clover hill!!!!!!!!!! (bt then i would say that because my boy is a clover hill line)
also like the diamond line

 

[Hattikins]

I think Cruising is a pretty good line, crossed with a tb or something finer boned. seem to be very bold and brave with flowing paces and "sparkle" although they are known to sometimes have a bit of a dodgey temperament although i know plenty that are charming!!!!!!

 

[druid]

Have to laugh at that..My Cruising mare is named Sparkle Horse!!

 

[Hattikins]

lol great name!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

they do have fantastic presence and really stand out from the crown, looks and character wise

 

[MissDeMeena]

Has anyone ever heard of 'Felice De Champeix' or know anything about him??? He's Irish, i think a Grade A SJer and i think an Anglo Arab.. that's all i know.
If able to post a pic would be even better!!!!

 

[Fiona]

Step Together is a really nice TB sire (IHB approved) who throws a lot of v classy eventers, Don't Step Back, Wee Hot Toddy, LA Temple Bar were all from his line.

Fiona

 

[Equibeau]

My boy is by an IHB approved stallion standing in Ireland called Freddie's Star. Bred to event, though I do dressage as he is a bit of a mover! Does anyone know this stallion?

 

[Skhosu]

Personally wouldn't breed a cruising, every one I've seen has bucked and been a bit of a pain at the vets etc.
However, they can damn well jump!
Cavalier Two for Joy and is it Clover Echo seem to be popular.

 

[siennamum]

Sienna's grandad was Legan Prince too

Must have been class.....

 

[siennamum]

My friend has a lovely big coloured mare by him... mmm v nice.

 

[KatB]

Yes I've knowna couple of cruising youngsters, one was very sweet but VERY stubborn could jump beautifully though. the other was manic, and turned itself inside out to remove my old boss when he first got on it! Once relaxed though was lovely to watch working, but still had that stubborn streak that would put me off.

 

[Hattikins]

its funny you should say that they buck as my cruising mare has a fantastic buck in her -although it is totally non malicious and is only in use when extremely fresh or over exuberant (as 5yearolds are!!) and never as a "get off me" vice.

and yes she has the stubborn streak too and one hell of a jump BUT i think the stubborn streak is slowly beginning to subside as she loves to please and cant help but enjoy her job - being stubborn just gets in the way of her enjoyment -but its early stages we will see!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[henryhorn]

Our bloodline started off with a Cruising connection and they have all without exception proved bold jumpers. unfortunately they also don't tolerate muppet riders either as they do sparkle a bit! Never had problems with any bucking, if anything they buck less than the others.
We have now tried to breed down that Cruising part and replace it with warmblood, so our horses are now mostly TB, part warmblood and a tiny bit of ID.
C's new mare is by Baron de Chantepie, who seems to have lots of competing horses about. We now have three part Selle Francais and I do like them.

 

[PaddyMonty]

My lad is by Cruising out of Breffni Clover (by Cloverhill).
He is bold, has a fantastic jump with a kind of 'whatever' attitude. Unfortunately he was originally trained as a pure SJ (full brother to Cruisehill, Irish Int.Puissance horse) and was obviously 'actively' discouraged from putting a foot in water.
Not a good trait for an eventer. Nice movement though and very laid back.

 

[sally2008]

I'm biaised in favour of Ballenvella stock - brave, clever, pocket-rocket athletes.

 

[Madam_max]

Anyone know anything about Hail Station (deceased now) . My Mares dad. Looking on the IHB he has sired loads and loads of jumpers.

 

[SillyMare]

Lexi's mum was by Balinvella. Her dad is Jackson's Drift who is not so well known but I believe has produced some show horses. She is extremely athletic, clever with her feet and bold. She is only 5 so early days but we have high hopes for her.

India is by Rich Rebel who is producing a lot of nice young stock at the moment. She is very honest, careful and straight and tries her heart out.

Merry is racing bred but came from Ireland - by Grand Plaisir - I don't know anything about his stock.

 

[dieseldog]

We've had a few irish horses.

Chestnut Mare by I'm a Star (I think) same as Mary Kings Olympic Horse. Went straight in at Novice and after it got its 3 clears did Intermediate. But was also the most miserable hormonal nappy cow ever.

Chestnut Gelding by Gifted, super talented but with attitude to match, only 15.3 and would jump 1.40s all day, but you couldn't hack him or do anything else unless it was SJ.

Bay Mare by Ballysimon - bit of a bitch again and not that good

So from my experience of Irish horses I wouldn't touch em with a barge pole. But out of the 3 I would go for I'm a Star

 

[cguest]

My horse is by the Conqueror and have kept a look out for others but yours is first I've heard of! Obviously I'm biased but his conformation is good and fantastic jump so personally would definitely be interested in those lines - What was the dam?