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Irish Olympic Showjuming Representative Announced...
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Tharg
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Judging by the swearing he must have had one heck of a bad day, after he is human like everyone else.
catnumber5
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anyway denis is going really well this season so he deserves a shot. mind you i got sent this fab video of him on facebook coming off some horse and lets just say it would have ben a lot less entertaining if he had just stuck two fingers up at it.......LOL
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I posted that video on here a couple of weeks ago, BUT it doesn't tell the "full story"...
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You mean the story could be worse? What could possibly have excused his display after that show in Germany? Sorry there was no excuse for that behaviour, no matter what else was entailed.
He has one of the best horses in the world. 5.5 million was turned down for him. Lantinus is top of the WBFSH rankings. The horse was formerly ridden by Gregory Wathelet (UKR) who had hoped to keep the horse till the Olympics, however the Ukrane team sort of fell apart!
With Lynch's results on this horse this year I think he had to be the obvious choice for Ireland
I agree with many others so many other Irish riders were legend. Eddie Macken would never have been seen behaving as Denis Lynch.
So Castlemouse, what is the "full story"?
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anyway denis is going really well this season so he deserves a shot. mind you i got sent this fab video of him on facebook coming off some horse and lets just say it would have ben a lot less entertaining if he had just stuck two fingers up at it.......LOL
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I posted that video on here a couple of weeks ago, BUT it doesn't tell the "full story"...
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You mean the story could be worse? What could possibly have excused his display after that show in Germany? Sorry there was no excuse for that behaviour, no matter what else was entailed.
He has one of the best horses in the world. 5.5 million was turned down for him. Lantinus is top of the WBFSH rankings. The horse was formerly ridden by Gregory Wathelet (UKR) who had hoped to keep the horse till the Olympics, however the Ukrane team sort of fell apart!
With Lynch's results on this horse this year I think he had to be the obvious choice for Ireland
I agree with many others so many other Irish riders were legend. Eddie Macken would never have been seen behaving as Denis Lynch.
So Castlemouse, what is the "full story"?
cruiseline
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I agree with many others so many other Irish riders were legend. Eddie Macken would never have been seen behaving as Denis Lynch.
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Sorry catnumber5, I have to disagree with you on that one.
I watched Eddy Macken jump at the Horse of the Year Show, he was riding Carol's Royal Lion in the puissance class. His horse got stuck on top of the wall and plummeted head first to the ground. It landed with its neck in a really horrible position. Eddy also hit the ground, he stood up and without even taking a second look at the horse and walked straight out of the arena. His groom had to come running in to see if the horse was OK, the look on her face told he story, she was discussed with him, although very shaken and a bit wobbly the horse seemed OK and walked slowly out of the arena
He was really hammered by the press and public for the lack of concern about his horse, as the whole thing was on national TV. I lost all respect for him after that!!!!!!
I agree with many others so many other Irish riders were legend. Eddie Macken would never have been seen behaving as Denis Lynch.
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Sorry catnumber5, I have to disagree with you on that one.
I watched Eddy Macken jump at the Horse of the Year Show, he was riding Carol's Royal Lion in the puissance class. His horse got stuck on top of the wall and plummeted head first to the ground. It landed with its neck in a really horrible position. Eddy also hit the ground, he stood up and without even taking a second look at the horse and walked straight out of the arena. His groom had to come running in to see if the horse was OK, the look on her face told he story, she was discussed with him, although very shaken and a bit wobbly the horse seemed OK and walked slowly out of the arena
He was really hammered by the press and public for the lack of concern about his horse, as the whole thing was on national TV. I lost all respect for him after that!!!!!!
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Judging by the swearing he must have had one heck of a bad day, after he is human like everyone else.
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I agree. I don't know anything about the guy, so judging just off that one video, I really didn't think it was that bad.
Whether it was all his fault or not, he was obviously having a bad day, and if I'd been dumped twice in one round my language would probably be a bit colourful too.
Judging by the swearing he must have had one heck of a bad day, after he is human like everyone else.
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I agree. I don't know anything about the guy, so judging just off that one video, I really didn't think it was that bad.
Whether it was all his fault or not, he was obviously having a bad day, and if I'd been dumped twice in one round my language would probably be a bit colourful too.
MizElz
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Good God, what is the problem with some people?
I have just watched the video for the first time, and I'm sorry, I LMAO!!!!!!
"F*** you horse you f****** useless f****** c***" ....... CLASSIC!!!
The poor guy had just been dumped twice, once after a dirty stop, then again when the horse just didnt seem to make an effort.......give him a break! Can you honestly say you've never sworn in anger - or pain - in the same way? I know I have! The guy is HUMAN, after all!
I havent seen enough of him to make my own judgement on whether or not he is Ireland's best candidate, but I am sure he will do his best. It would be very sad if his entire Olympic campaign is blighted by people's desire for prim and proper behaviour from sportsmen. This is like Paul Tapner at Badminton, all over again!
Good God, what is the problem with some people?
I have just watched the video for the first time, and I'm sorry, I LMAO!!!!!!
"F*** you horse you f****** useless f****** c***" ....... CLASSIC!!!
The poor guy had just been dumped twice, once after a dirty stop, then again when the horse just didnt seem to make an effort.......give him a break! Can you honestly say you've never sworn in anger - or pain - in the same way? I know I have! The guy is HUMAN, after all!
I havent seen enough of him to make my own judgement on whether or not he is Ireland's best candidate, but I am sure he will do his best. It would be very sad if his entire Olympic campaign is blighted by people's desire for prim and proper behaviour from sportsmen. This is like Paul Tapner at Badminton, all over again!
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I havent seen enough of him to make my own judgement on whether or not he is Ireland's best candidate, but I am sure he will do his best. It would be very sad if his entire Olympic campaign is blighted by people's desire for prim and proper behaviour from sportsmen. This is like Paul Tapner at Badminton, all over again!
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exactly. better the air and peoples ears than the horse.
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I havent seen enough of him to make my own judgement on whether or not he is Ireland's best candidate, but I am sure he will do his best. It would be very sad if his entire Olympic campaign is blighted by people's desire for prim and proper behaviour from sportsmen. This is like Paul Tapner at Badminton, all over again!
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exactly. better the air and peoples ears than the horse.
MagicMelon
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Clips here: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=M2qA1-r_60Q
Looks like a total moron to me! Cannot believe he is a good rep for the sport let alone at Olympic level. The horse really MEANT to throw itself to the ground didnt it?! Idiot. He deserves a damn good walloping!
BTW MizElz - NO I would never dream of swearing about my horse like that or saying how it needs a damn good smacking, ESPECIALLY if my horse had just fallen, nothing naughty about that whatsoever. Id be horrified to think you'd behave in this way?
Looks like a total moron to me! Cannot believe he is a good rep for the sport let alone at Olympic level. The horse really MEANT to throw itself to the ground didnt it?! Idiot. He deserves a damn good walloping!
BTW MizElz - NO I would never dream of swearing about my horse like that or saying how it needs a damn good smacking, ESPECIALLY if my horse had just fallen, nothing naughty about that whatsoever. Id be horrified to think you'd behave in this way?
MizElz
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BTW MizElz - NO I would never dream of swearing about my horse like that or saying how it needs a damn good smacking, ESPECIALLY if my horse had just fallen, nothing naughty about that whatsoever. Id be horrified to think you'd behave in this way?
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You would? So what would you rather see happen? Would taking his momentary rage out on his horse be a better option? Should he have got back on it and beat the living daylights out of it?
FYI, I have never behaved in this way - I am not highly strung enough - although I do swear at my horse occasionally when she is being a moo, but I have no problem with people swearing, physically or verbally, if it means they then do not take their rage physically on their horses. I'd like to hope most people feel the same
BTW MizElz - NO I would never dream of swearing about my horse like that or saying how it needs a damn good smacking, ESPECIALLY if my horse had just fallen, nothing naughty about that whatsoever. Id be horrified to think you'd behave in this way?
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You would? So what would you rather see happen? Would taking his momentary rage out on his horse be a better option? Should he have got back on it and beat the living daylights out of it?
FYI, I have never behaved in this way - I am not highly strung enough - although I do swear at my horse occasionally when she is being a moo, but I have no problem with people swearing, physically or verbally, if it means they then do not take their rage physically on their horses. I'd like to hope most people feel the same
cruiseline
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How do you know he didn't get back on the horse in the warm-up or behind the lorry park and give it a good hiding, like he said it needed.
What a temper, I wouldn't like to be around him and a horse when he knew no one was watching, if that is what he does when 100's of people and a camera crew are!!!!
What a temper, I wouldn't like to be around him and a horse when he knew no one was watching, if that is what he does when 100's of people and a camera crew are!!!!
MizElz
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How do you know he didn't get back on the horse in the warm-up or behind the lorry park and give it a good hiding, like he said it needed.
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I dont know anything for certain, and yes, he may well have got on the horse and beaten the sh*t out of it out of view - who knows? But I doubt it. Judging by his reaction to his first fall, when he got back on the horse, gave it one whack to let it know that another dirty stop was not an option, I would say he acted very professionally when back in the saddle, having taken any rage he may have had out on the air. And lets face it, there are probably hundreds of incidents occurring in the horsey (and other sporting) worlds - it was just unfortunate for Denis, and fortunate for those of us who have a sense of humour, that this particular incident was filmed and uploaded to Youtube.....
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What a temper, I wouldn't like to be around him and a horse when he knew no one was watching, if that is what he does when 100's of people and a camera crew are!!!!
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Oh come on. I've seen people with a 'temper' and they behave in a manner that is far worse than that. What exactly did Denis do? He took a nasty fall, and swore at his horse, before it was caught and brought back to him. Yes, he said it needed a wallop - but God, how many of us would think that in the heat of the moment!? Just because he said it, doesnt mean he was going to do it. And I dont know for certain, but I wouldnt have described the filming as being done by a 'camera crew' - it seems more like it has been filmed by a member of the public, to me....
What I want to know is, why do we insist that sportsmen have to behave with utter decorum and dignity at all times? It is so, so easy for us to sit here and say, 'I wouldnt have done that', but sometimes I think we underestimate the pressure that these people are under. Nobody here slags off Harvey Smith for his 'temper' after his famous Hickstead episode, yet we seem only to ready to condemn the sportsmen of today. I really dont understand it.
How do you know he didn't get back on the horse in the warm-up or behind the lorry park and give it a good hiding, like he said it needed.
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I dont know anything for certain, and yes, he may well have got on the horse and beaten the sh*t out of it out of view - who knows? But I doubt it. Judging by his reaction to his first fall, when he got back on the horse, gave it one whack to let it know that another dirty stop was not an option, I would say he acted very professionally when back in the saddle, having taken any rage he may have had out on the air. And lets face it, there are probably hundreds of incidents occurring in the horsey (and other sporting) worlds - it was just unfortunate for Denis, and fortunate for those of us who have a sense of humour, that this particular incident was filmed and uploaded to Youtube.....
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What a temper, I wouldn't like to be around him and a horse when he knew no one was watching, if that is what he does when 100's of people and a camera crew are!!!!
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Oh come on. I've seen people with a 'temper' and they behave in a manner that is far worse than that. What exactly did Denis do? He took a nasty fall, and swore at his horse, before it was caught and brought back to him. Yes, he said it needed a wallop - but God, how many of us would think that in the heat of the moment!? Just because he said it, doesnt mean he was going to do it. And I dont know for certain, but I wouldnt have described the filming as being done by a 'camera crew' - it seems more like it has been filmed by a member of the public, to me....
What I want to know is, why do we insist that sportsmen have to behave with utter decorum and dignity at all times? It is so, so easy for us to sit here and say, 'I wouldnt have done that', but sometimes I think we underestimate the pressure that these people are under. Nobody here slags off Harvey Smith for his 'temper' after his famous Hickstead episode, yet we seem only to ready to condemn the sportsmen of today. I really dont understand it.
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Nobody here slags off Harvey Smith for his 'temper' after his famous Hickstead episode, yet we seem only to ready to condemn the sportsmen of today. I really dont understand it.
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actually, Harvey was always being criticised at the time-people loved or hated him and because of that, he was great for the sport.
I'm with you actually, as long as its not taken out on the horse (and we dont know if it was or wasnt in this case) he can swear and cuss all he wants. I find it gobsmacking that people say they have never lost their temper with a horse and sworn at it, you are all saints! I've worked with horses all my life and without exception, everyone has sworn like sailors-yet HHOers dont? do me a favour.
sportmen and women are better for showing a bit of passion IMO. Harvey and McEnroe, you never knew if they were going to be sublime or relatively rubbish-made it much more exciting.
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So his language is extremely ripe - but unfortunately some people are like this. Doesn't make him a good or a bad rider. Also, no matter how easily he was shifted when the horse stopped, he didn't have much of a chance the second time when the horse fell. I imagine he was feeling a bit squished and sore by ths time.
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It's not so much his language; hey, I swear
It's his insistence that the horse deserved to be hit following a fall,
that I thought showed poor horsemanship
Last summer I was showingjumping and suffered a very similar fall, and I couldn't pick my "squished and sore" self off the floor fast enough to check my horse was ok....
So his language is extremely ripe - but unfortunately some people are like this. Doesn't make him a good or a bad rider. Also, no matter how easily he was shifted when the horse stopped, he didn't have much of a chance the second time when the horse fell. I imagine he was feeling a bit squished and sore by ths time.
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It's not so much his language; hey, I swear
Last summer I was showingjumping and suffered a very similar fall, and I couldn't pick my "squished and sore" self off the floor fast enough to check my horse was ok....
cruiseline
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Well all I can say, is with an attitude like the one I am seeing regarding this thread, then no wonder kids in the UK are like they are. Swearing, intimidating people on the streets, beating people to death over trivial things. A very sad situation indeed.
These people are being made to look like heroes, and the public is allowing it. It is exactly the same with the footballers, they can do no wrong in the eyes of the public and the kids are also following suit. Call me old fashioned, call me a prude, I really don't care. Manners cost nothing and it is about time that those in the public eye should be held accountable for their actions.
These people are being made to look like heroes, and the public is allowing it. It is exactly the same with the footballers, they can do no wrong in the eyes of the public and the kids are also following suit. Call me old fashioned, call me a prude, I really don't care. Manners cost nothing and it is about time that those in the public eye should be held accountable for their actions.
MizElz
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Well all I can say, is with an attitude like the one I am seeing regarding this thread, then no wonder kids in the UK are like they are. Swearing, intimidating people on the streets, beating people to death over trivial things. A very sad situation indeed.
These people are being made to look like heroes, and the public is allowing it. It is exactly the same with the footballers, they can do no wrong in the eyes of the public and the kids are also following suit. Call me old fashioned, call me a prude, I really don't care. Manners cost nothing and it is about time that those in the public eye should be held accountable for their actions.
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I think that is grossly overdramatic. It isnt about manners at all, its about adrenalin, passion and grit. We are quick enough to slag off the sportsmen who are so used to winning that they appear impassive and deadpan, yet when a man reacts in a way that surely shows just how much his sport means to him, we slag him off, too, for having no 'manners'?
Now I saw Robert Power once beat the living daylights out of a mare in the main ring at Hickstead, to the point that she was urinating in fear. THAT is out of order, IMO. Swearing at your horse is not.
Well all I can say, is with an attitude like the one I am seeing regarding this thread, then no wonder kids in the UK are like they are. Swearing, intimidating people on the streets, beating people to death over trivial things. A very sad situation indeed.
These people are being made to look like heroes, and the public is allowing it. It is exactly the same with the footballers, they can do no wrong in the eyes of the public and the kids are also following suit. Call me old fashioned, call me a prude, I really don't care. Manners cost nothing and it is about time that those in the public eye should be held accountable for their actions.
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I think that is grossly overdramatic. It isnt about manners at all, its about adrenalin, passion and grit. We are quick enough to slag off the sportsmen who are so used to winning that they appear impassive and deadpan, yet when a man reacts in a way that surely shows just how much his sport means to him, we slag him off, too, for having no 'manners'?
Now I saw Robert Power once beat the living daylights out of a mare in the main ring at Hickstead, to the point that she was urinating in fear. THAT is out of order, IMO. Swearing at your horse is not.
lucretia
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'~Lucretia runs to hide for having menntioned that video in the first place, though she is still laughing and thinks Denis should go~'
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Well all I can say, is with an attitude like the one I am seeing regarding this thread, then no wonder kids in the UK are like they are. Swearing, intimidating people on the streets, beating people to death over trivial things. A very sad situation indeed.
These people are being made to look like heroes, and the public is allowing it. It is exactly the same with the footballers, they can do no wrong in the eyes of the public and the kids are also following suit. Call me old fashioned, call me a prude, I really don't care. Manners cost nothing and it is about time that those in the public eye should be held accountable for their actions.
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lol, over react much? good grief. I dont think we can blame sportsmen for the decline of society as a whole. Or maybe Harvey started it lmao.
I dont think this guy is a hero, I think he was frustrated and angry and acted like a dork. should his future career hang on it? no.
Well all I can say, is with an attitude like the one I am seeing regarding this thread, then no wonder kids in the UK are like they are. Swearing, intimidating people on the streets, beating people to death over trivial things. A very sad situation indeed.
These people are being made to look like heroes, and the public is allowing it. It is exactly the same with the footballers, they can do no wrong in the eyes of the public and the kids are also following suit. Call me old fashioned, call me a prude, I really don't care. Manners cost nothing and it is about time that those in the public eye should be held accountable for their actions.
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lol, over react much? good grief. I dont think we can blame sportsmen for the decline of society as a whole. Or maybe Harvey started it lmao.
I dont think this guy is a hero, I think he was frustrated and angry and acted like a dork. should his future career hang on it? no.
cruiseline
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No its about the influence that theses peoples action have on the young and venerable who are there watching their so called heroes. Adrenalin, passion and grit, as a horseman does not mean that when the chips are down you scream abuse and ask anyone around you to go and beat your horse!!!
You say that he was just showing how much his sport means to him, but he also showed how much his horse didn't!!!!
You say that he was just showing how much his sport means to him, but he also showed how much his horse didn't!!!!
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How do you know he didn't get back on the horse in the warm-up or behind the lorry park and give it a good hiding, like he said it needed.
What a temper, I wouldn't like to be around him and a horse when he knew no one was watching, if that is what he does when 100's of people and a camera crew are!!!!
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Well we don't know if he did or he didn't - you can't judge him on something you have no idea whether he did.
Actually, I personally think it is better to vent your anger at the ground and be open about it, rather than calmly get back on, take the horse out of the ring and beat the living sh*t out of it. The horse was well away at that point, I can't see it being affected by being called a c***
From what you can see on the video, I don't think anything he does is bad enough to deserve some of the comments about him. Unless somebody knows the inside story and knows he is a cruel horse beater, then I'm not going to say he's not worthy of the Olympics from one video of him swearing at his horse.
How do you know he didn't get back on the horse in the warm-up or behind the lorry park and give it a good hiding, like he said it needed.
What a temper, I wouldn't like to be around him and a horse when he knew no one was watching, if that is what he does when 100's of people and a camera crew are!!!!
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Well we don't know if he did or he didn't - you can't judge him on something you have no idea whether he did.
Actually, I personally think it is better to vent your anger at the ground and be open about it, rather than calmly get back on, take the horse out of the ring and beat the living sh*t out of it. The horse was well away at that point, I can't see it being affected by being called a c***
From what you can see on the video, I don't think anything he does is bad enough to deserve some of the comments about him. Unless somebody knows the inside story and knows he is a cruel horse beater, then I'm not going to say he's not worthy of the Olympics from one video of him swearing at his horse.
MizElz
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No its about the influence that theses peoples action have on the young and venerable who are there watching their so called heroes. Adrenalin, passion and grit, as a horseman does not mean that when the chips are down you scream abuse and ask anyone around you to go and beat your horse!!!
You say that he was just showing how much his sport means to him, but he also showed how much his horse didn't!!!!
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I think you have got incredibly unecessarily hot under the collar about a situation none of us can judge. We'll agree to disagree on this one, if that's ok with you. I wish him well at the Olympics - I don't know him from Adam, but the selectors obviously feel he deserves his chance, and fair play to him.
No its about the influence that theses peoples action have on the young and venerable who are there watching their so called heroes. Adrenalin, passion and grit, as a horseman does not mean that when the chips are down you scream abuse and ask anyone around you to go and beat your horse!!!
You say that he was just showing how much his sport means to him, but he also showed how much his horse didn't!!!!
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I think you have got incredibly unecessarily hot under the collar about a situation none of us can judge. We'll agree to disagree on this one, if that's ok with you. I wish him well at the Olympics - I don't know him from Adam, but the selectors obviously feel he deserves his chance, and fair play to him.
Daphnelia
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I thought the vid was hilarious.
I'm afraid my trademark insults are "sell it to gypsies" and "shoot the damn thing". I clearly should not be allowed within seeing distance of another equine.
The only bit I didn't like about the vid was the horse being walloped AFTER the rider got back on - what was the point?
I'm afraid my trademark insults are "sell it to gypsies" and "shoot the damn thing". I clearly should not be allowed within seeing distance of another equine.
The only bit I didn't like about the vid was the horse being walloped AFTER the rider got back on - what was the point?
donablue
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make a fortune with a swear box!!
please donate to hhoers lol
please donate to hhoers lol
xxlindeyxx
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i know this thread is old but the video was removed and the person who uploaded hasnt been on youtube in 2 years so i was wondering if anyone has it would they mind giving me a link for it
Wolfie
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Not in the developed world! The economy is in ruins!
And so what if he swears? Did he get up and knock the daylights out of the horse?