Irish Sport Horse Eventer type with experience - what could I expect to pay?

My horse would be perfect for you. 16.2hh ISH, chunky. So easy to do, hack hunt etc. 13 BE points, 7 year old. One problem though, he is not for sale :D :p Well it would have to be a decent offer any ways!
 
I think I have the perfect horse for you. He would be a bit more than your original budget but not a great deal more. He's my OH horse who's 1.95m and 15 stone. We imported the horse as a 3 year old and he's 9 now done BE BS with excellent results, the home is the top priority for us. Pm if you want any more info. He has not been advertised and probably won't be.....
 
One thing I did when I was looking was post on FB and join all the British breeding groups on FB - there are a lot of Irish breeders/dealers on there and I got offered several decent looking horses via that route. I also found the horse I ended up buying via FB!
 
Luci07 said:
I wouldn't assume you could get a bargain in Ireland. Its a bit of a fallacy as the Irish know the value of their horses as well as we do! I would love to go over to mooch one day but would do it with someone who was in the know.

For a green well put together ISH I would go to David at Irish Horse Imports in Pangbourne. I am not affiliated to him in anyway but my yard have bought a lot of horses from him and he is very straight. It is basic but his horses are all just backed, over from Ireland with a good choice. I know he is picky about what he keeps as he has sent a couple over to my YO to take time and produce on that would just be too long to keep in his yard. Maybe you could look at a good green baby and put the rest of the budget for him to go to a good yard and then be started off in bootcamp!
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They will be rough and ready, but I agree it's an excellent place to sort for a youngster.
We also buy quite a bit from him, and have quite a few of his through for bootcamp as Luci describes. In 2012 I think I rode 9 "David" specials. I liked all bar one, who was a bint, but the rest were amenable. At the moment, we have 11 David horses with us.....
 
CharlesMax said:
certainly somthing to consider but I have just had an Irish Draught and loved his temperament, hence wanting the ISH - a racier version! : )
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If you wanted a 17hh ID SH - 5 years old - carefully backed and brought on - would be ready to do BE90 this year and would go a lot further, then you'd need to be looking at upping the budget a bit. The problem with 6-7 year olds who've done a bit is that EITHER they're good (and MUCH more expensive IF for sale) or they're useless (and therefore cheap!)
 
Llanali said:
They will be rough and ready, but I agree it's an excellent place to sort for a youngster.
We also buy quite a bit from him, and have quite a few of his through for bootcamp as Luci describes. In 2012 I think I rode 9 "David" specials. I liked all bar one, who was a bint, but the rest were amenable. At the moment, we have 11 David horses with us.....
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you beat us then... we only have 8! one of his specials who was sold very much as a project went from feral to now out BE and will be moving upto 100 this year.
 
Do you def want ish? Just wondered as I have a horse for sale in your price bracket but he isn't Irish!

We have recently bought a four year old from david and although he was a bit rough round the edges he is proving to be a star. He moves amazingly well, jumps like a stag, is a saint to hack and the easiest horse in the world to do. We have high hopes for him. I think he was the worst looking horse in the yard tbh but we hope he will turn into a swan! I'm just round the corner from them so I can ask if they have anything.
 
I have a 17hh RID mare for sale, rising 7 but a little green - she is the one on my profile pic. Would easily BE90-100 but does need bringing back into work. Will PM u some details if u r interested....
 
And if you do go to David, don't expect anything flash, expect him to be blunt and be really honest about your requirements and abilities. That way he will only show you what would be really suitable.
 
Cedars said:
Ye, we've just bought a new one who is basically exactly as described except hopefully will not hang around at 90/100. We've seen 22 horses in the buying process...! I think you need to understand what you're willing to compromise on because the horse you described (in Gloucestershire anyway) would be near double the £5k.

I would think age would be the safest place to compromise?
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I agree 100% with comment above. If you're looking for a horse with experience of competing, then look at older horses 12yrs plus and you should be able to get what you want within your budget. If you're not interested in producing a 4yr old from scratch, then I think it's unlikely you'll get what you want aged 6-10yrs - unless you are supremely lucky, or there are hidden issues... be cautious.
 
http://www.clipcloptraders.co.uk/GypsyRose.html

Have had my eye on this one... Not that I'm looking but am so happy with the boy that I bought from Emma last year (a 4 year old with a 12 year old brain ;))
that I keep an eye on her site for others who are looking.

Worth giving her (Emma) a call as she has brilliant contacts in Ireland and could help out or point you in right direction.
 
I would advise you to remove the idea that an ISH will be like an ID in temperament from your head. There is so much variation in the stud book that there is no common trait to ISH temperaments. Re dealers...pm measles on here. Excellent reputation, great eye for a horse and has a mare I think sounds what you're looking for at the moment
 
amage said:
I would advise you to remove the idea that an ISH will be like an ID in temperament from your head. There is so much variation in the stud book that there is no common trait to ISH temperaments. Re dealers...pm measles on here. Excellent reputation, great eye for a horse and has a mare I think sounds what you're looking for at the moment
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True. ISH breeding takes from most of the Continental books now. I'd say they do perhaps put more emphasis on the "type" they like (as do many books) but the genes are there to create a wide range of horses. Specific parentage is a much more reliable indicator.

Wanting a "type" is a good idea, wanting it to also be a specific breed is likely just going to limit your search.
 
boxcarhorse said:
I agree 100% with comment above. If you're looking for a horse with experience of competing, then look at older horses 12yrs plus and you should be able to get what you want within your budget. If you're not interested in producing a 4yr old from scratch, then I think it's unlikely you'll get what you want aged 6-10yrs - unless you are supremely lucky, or there are hidden issues... be cautious.
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After looking at ads all weekend, I agree 100% too! : )
 
Nicnac said:
http://www.clipcloptraders.co.uk/GypsyRose.html

Have had my eye on this one... Not that I'm looking but am so happy with the boy that I bought from Emma last year (a 4 year old with a 12 year old brain ;))
that I keep an eye on her site for others who are looking.

Worth giving her (Emma) a call as she has brilliant contacts in Ireland and could help out or point you in right direction.
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Looks LOVELY but I really do need a horse thats at least 16.3hh to take my height. See them come up a lot and lots of positive comments about them - will give them a call. Thank you : )
 
WOW! Some amazing advice on here for me to reference. I have been obsessing, checking every website possible and now have a more clear understanding of what I can get for around £5K: Either a young green horse with potential or a horse thats been there done that BUT older!

I have decided to go for an experienced horse and have accepted that I will have to get something quite a bit older that I wanted. I thought my moneyt would go alot futher in this market but the quality horses are holding their value.

I have to go away for three weeks so will put this on hold. Still cannot stop looking though!!!

Please inbox/message me any details/advice for me to reference when I pick up the search again!

Thanks again to all of you!
 
TarrSteps said:
True. ISH breeding takes from most of the Continental books now. I'd say they do perhaps put more emphasis on the "type" they like (as do many books) but the genes are there to create a wide range of horses. Specific parentage is a much more reliable indicator.

Wanting a "type" is a good idea, wanting it to also be a specific breed is likely just going to limit your search.
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I recently bought a youngster, if you looked at him you'd say ISH, but he's 3/4 TB cross ID and bred in Wales. Heres a pic.....
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The only two horses that I bought that were bred in Ireland had ringbone at an early age, one a show cob the other a TB, I wouldn't buy an Irish bred horse again, especially when there are some good ones bred over here.
 
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