Irresponsible Owners

At last a judge who hands down a decent sentence, we could have hoped for more, but this is better than the pathetic suspended sentences and dismally small fines…Do hope this lays down a marker for other cases and judges…..
 
I'm pleased to not have had reason to post on here for a good while but had a couple of things recently.

Last weekend had dog settled nicely in cafe, guy asks if his puppy (who had been barking at us from across the way) can say hello. Before the words 'actually no...' had a chance to leave my mouth, the pup was already there. Fairly predictably it wanted to play and jumped up at Ivy who was laying down. Ivy gave a growl but to me it was a very measured correction of the pup who hadn't done anything wrong, just being a puppy in a busy place learning how to behave (or not). Not a biggie but then my dog looks like the mean one when she was behaving exactly how we have asked her to and minding her own business!

Then today a much more unpleasant experience. Walking along hedge line in a field (incidentally, one which will likely have sheep with lambs in fairly soon) when a big young boxer emerges from where the gate is further up. Can hear owner but not see them so we stood still. OH told the dog no and it did stop. Finally owner catches up with another boxer on a lead. Young one absolutely not listening and approaches. OH says no again but it ends up reaching him. Other owner starts getting arsey telling OH to just grab it by the collar and bring his dog back over to him. Fairly understandably OH isn't sure about this so I give him our spare lead. Other owner gets rude about that too. OH returns dog to owner who then explains he couldn't come and get his off lead dog is because the on lead one would kick off at us.

Fantastic. So we have a large, young, off lead dog with no recall and if it gets into any kind of trouble, an owner who can't do anything about it because the on lead dog will cause problems.

He was so rude to OH and I for no reason; we were calm to not upset his young dog and I think basically all we said through this whole interaction was 'no'. When we walked off I said to OH I was glad he was there because if I had been on my own, I'd have been stuffed (or clipping the young dog on a lead and walking it home with me because we wouldn't be able to go near the guy with the other dog!)

OH agreed if he hadn't have been there, the guy probably would have behaved worse with me. Eugh!
 
I can't sufficiently express my contempt of this individual. Your OH was I dare say correct. Anyway it was clearly all your fault for being there 🙄🙄

Many years ago a couple of GSDs pinned my shrieking Labxcollie down in some woods. I told their owner to get his effing dogs off mine. He said not till I asked more politely!! I was forced to grovel. I went home and told OH who was furious and said he wouldn't have responded like that to him. I'm sure he was right.

Despicable.
 
As I was driving home, a woman at the bottom of my lane did that thing where someone pops the tailgate and the dog was off and running before she was out of the driver's seat. Annoying

As I drove slowly behind her (think 5mph, which is fine, it's a shared space) she holds up her hand and indicates she is going to leash dog, fine and stands aside for me to pass. She releases dog immediately once I pass, fine.
As I am reversing into my driveway, I spot something white in my mirrors.
THE DOG IS CHASING MY WHEELS AND RUNNING AROUND IN FRONT OF AND BEHIND MY MOVING VEHICLE. And she's still at the bottom of the lane and isn't seeing any of this.
So I just stop and wait for her to catch up as I'm not going to squash her dog. She just goes 'come on' to the dog and keeps going.

You're welcome, I guess? If I see her again l'll tell her but I was too busy getting the car in the gate and she'd already walked on by the time I'd finished.
 
It's insane isnt it _these idiots all profess to lurve their ickle darlings but in reality they could' t care less about them. Today as I was sitting peacefully indoors all hell let loose outside my front door a dog was barking and screaming and something was banging on the door. When I opened it the dog that has already attacked my dog twice and even had a go at me when I didn't have a dog at all, appeared to have run down to my house, (it had to go past another house to get here) but had only started barking and jumping at the door when it got to me. Now that's a first for me, to have a dog go to those lengths to try and eat mine! Sigh.
 
Littlest Hobo said:
It's insane isnt it _these idiots all profess to lurve their ickle darlings but in reality they could' t care less about them. Today as I was sitting peacefully indoors all hell let loose outside my front door a dog was barking and screaming and something was banging on the door. When I opened it the dog that has already attacked my dog twice and even had a go at me when I didn't have a dog at all, appeared to have run down to my house, (it had to go past another house to get here) but had only started barking and jumping at the door when it got to me. Now that's a first for me, to have a dog go to those lengths to try and eat mine! Sigh.
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Yeah, if a dog goes that far out of its way to attack another one, that's a major problem.
 
CorvusCorax said:
As I was driving home, a woman at the bottom of my lane did that thing where someone pops the tailgate and the dog was off and running before she was out of the driver's seat. Annoying

As I drove slowly behind her (think 5mph, which is fine, it's a shared space) she holds up her hand and indicates she is going to leash dog, fine and stands aside for me to pass. She releases dog immediately once I pass, fine.
As I am reversing into my driveway, I spot something white in my mirrors.
THE DOG IS CHASING MY WHEELS AND RUNNING AROUND IN FRONT OF AND BEHIND MY MOVING VEHICLE. And she's still at the bottom of the lane and isn't seeing any of this.
So I just stop and wait for her to catch up as I'm not going to squash her dog. She just goes 'come on' to the dog and keeps going.

You're welcome, I guess? If I see her again l'll tell her but I was too busy getting the car in the gate and she'd already walked on by the time I'd finished.
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These people are completely irresponsible and unfit to be in charge of any living thing
 
Agility training today. I have already had a problem with the owner and their 30kg+ entire male herding type bowling up to my lurcher in the ring last year and having to be dragged away, in hindsight I should have reported that incident to the show Sec - I know the Judge was shocked at what had happened. Today I was in the same training session as this dog. Rew had finished running, and I’d brought Fig, all 5kg of her, in to sit quietly, minding her own business and he just watch. All going very well. Jumps needed the height changing, so everyone gets up to do this, I walk from my seat in a straight line towards a jump which is directly in front of me, with Fig of course on the lead as was every other dog in there… or so I thought. The herding dog appears off lead, rams his head under Fig’s little body to check her out, lifting her off the ground. I snatch her up in the air out of his way - this dog could snap her in half.

Luckily I didn’t hear the owners comment at the time, it was told to me later that they said ‘ well you shouldn’t have paraded her in front of his nose’. For the record she is six months old, so never been in season. At no time has this person ever said they are sorry to me, but now both of my dogs have been abused by their dog.
 
CorvusCorax said:
As I was driving home, a woman at the bottom of my lane did that thing where someone pops the tailgate and the dog was off and running before she was out of the driver's seat. Annoying

As I drove slowly behind her (think 5mph, which is fine, it's a shared space) she holds up her hand and indicates she is going to leash dog, fine and stands aside for me to pass. She releases dog immediately once I pass, fine.
As I am reversing into my driveway, I spot something white in my mirrors.
THE DOG IS CHASING MY WHEELS AND RUNNING AROUND IN FRONT OF AND BEHIND MY MOVING VEHICLE. And she's still at the bottom of the lane and isn't seeing any of this.
So I just stop and wait for her to catch up as I'm not going to squash her dog. She just goes 'come on' to the dog and keeps going.

You're welcome, I guess? If I see her again l'll tell her but I was too busy getting the car in the gate and she'd already walked on by the time I'd finished.
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Many years ago, I was a groom/peon at a dressage yard in upstate NY, and I was doing 6am to 6pm kind of days. Utterly knackering. And every day, when all I wanted to do was leave, the YO's damned JRTs would run around the wheels of my truck trying to herd it. YO had the attitude of 'it's their yard and they can do what they want' and had no interest in containing them. I was also 19 years old, and he was a scary German dressage trainer, so it wasn't like I was going to get in his face and tell him to get his dogs out of my bloody way.

It could take me fifteen minutes to just back the truck out of the parking space because I thought squashing the boss' dogs would not make my day better. JRT v. Ford F-250 was not ideal. And because of the size of the truck, I couldn't see the things when they were running around the wheels.
 
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Just putting my dogs back in the car , lurcher first while I held on to the terriers , suddenly some idiot approaches my terriers with a Pomeranian in his arms and my lurcher leaps out to see the other dog, I grabbed him quickly as there was a car going past , the twit said I was only saying hello , I didn’t reply as it would have been something like F… Off!!!!!
What is this need to pat other people’s dogs? It drives me mad, I don’t feel the need to pet every dog I see I just don’t understand it..
 
I was at the new house on Tuesday morning heading out for a walk we have a routine go out the door down the drive sit about twenty feet from gate put on leaders as pedestrian gate slides open .
As the gate opens a huge young old English sheepdog runs into the garden towards us .
The owner who is on the phone does not notice because it is on an extending leader.
The dog is grumbling and the man looks at me in outrage.
WTF your dog is in my garden and it’s my fault it’s growling at my dogs .
I was so taken aback I am ashamed to say I did not say a word .
 
I live in a popular tourist spot so its always been a problem but it's on the increase, I think since the Covid lockdowns when anything to do with the great outdoors became a magnet. Now we have unsocialised dogs, untrained dogs, dogs with no recall, dogs left home alone and so on. Massive increase in dog mess as well, and it seems its not enough to have one dog, lets get two or three, so we they'll play together and won't be alone when we're at work... When I'm riding I always carry a crop for unwelcome attention and when we used to have a dog I carried a water pistol.
Bring the licence back.
 
Two doodles and a collie have been missing from a local village for a couple of days. No sightings reported. Owned by the same person. Apparently they don’t usually stray far, ie they are allowed to wander around the village unaccompanied 🙄.

“usually just stay in ‘village name’. Just one neighbour they like to visit but she's not seen them”

Goodness knows where they are or what they’ve been getting up to.
 
Tiddlypom said:
Two doodles and a collie have been missing from a local village for a couple of days. No sightings reported. Owned by the same person. Apparently they don’t usually stray far, ie they are allowed to wander around the village unaccompanied 🙄.

“usually just stay in ‘village name’. Just one neighbour they like to visit but she's not seen them”

Goodness knows where they are or what they’ve been getting up to.
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I wonder if someone has got fed up of them being loose and has rehomed them to a pound plenty of miles away? At least that would be a safe option for the dogs.
 
Tiddlypom said:
Two doodles and a collie have been missing from a local village for a couple of days. No sightings reported. Owned by the same person. Apparently they don’t usually stray far, ie they are allowed to wander around the village unaccompanied 🙄.

“usually just stay in ‘village name’. Just one neighbour they like to visit but she's not seen them”

Goodness knows where they are or what they’ve been getting up to.
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That explains why the missing posts are so vague . I couldn’t work out if they’d been lost from home , run off on a walk or been stolen .
 
Tiddlypom said:
Two doodles and a collie have been missing from a local village for a couple of days. No sightings reported. Owned by the same person. Apparently they don’t usually stray far, ie they are allowed to wander around the village unaccompanied 🙄.

“usually just stay in ‘village name’. Just one neighbour they like to visit but she's not seen them”

Goodness knows where they are or what they’ve been getting up to.
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Just seen that 2 have been found passed away and one “weak but alive “ .
 
2 in one day yesterday!!

There’s a house near à field I walk my dogs across, they have two dogs and one keeps escaping. It hears dogs nearby and comes through the fence; it’s run up to my dogs before - it’s friendly thankfully, just excited. Owners fully aware yet continue to allow it to happen. It usually stays near the house and goes back… Until this weekend.

I wanted to go for a nice Mother’s Day walk with my mum, son and dogs. Got onto the canal towpath, walked a little bit, but dogs poo’d so I ran back to the dog poo bin to save carrying the poo all the way round with us. As I got to the bin, à woman with a black lab was approaching, talking on the phone, completely oblivious. Black lab rushed my dog (usual lab-with-no-social-skills thing), didn’t read the room, wouldn’t leave my MT alone, owner doing nothing to recall/retrieve her dog, he snapped at it, it retaliated, next thing I know they’re both in the canal. Lab supremely unbothered by water obvs; my 11 year old single-coated terrier in à heavy fleece winter coat who HATES water scrabbling at the edge desperately to try and get out. Fished him out, lab gets out, it’s STILL in my dog’s face, with woman not attempting to grab/restrain it, just saying “oh Ruby he doesn’t want to play!”. Then she asks me if mine likes water (!) I snapped back NO HES TERRIFIED OF IT! Then she says “oh look, how cute, he’s holding his paw up” YES BECAUSE HES NON WEIGHT BEARING ON IT AFTER YOUR DOG BOWLED HIM INTO THE CANAL. Rang my mom to tell her to come (she was still a bit further down the canal with my son and the lurcher). Funny, woman walked off at this point. My poor boy was so cold and sad, I bundled both of them straight back to the car, luckily I always have loads of towels in the boot - nice Mother’s Day walk cancelled.

So, while I sorted my hypothermic and injured terrier out (and had a massive cry because MY POOR OLD BOY 😭) my mum took the lurcher out so she at least got a decent walk still. She took her down by the river and across the field by the house with the escaping dog. Dog was out again, except this time had run off down along the river and out onto the main road through the village, where it was dodging cars, running excitedly between the various dog walkers that were out. My mum watched it nearly get run over several times, before she managed to grab it and lasso it with the lurcher’s training lead.

Returned it to the owner “oh he’s like Houdini, we keep thinking we’ve filled the gaps and he keeps getting out”. Well put it on a chain or something then! They have horses too, hope they’re not so lax about keeping their horses in!

Had enough of people!!
 
MurphysMinder said:
Just seen that 2 have been found passed away and one “weak but alive “ .
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Two were found in a slurry pit. One dead, one barely alive. The second body turned out to be that of a fox but it is thought that the still missing dog, the younger one, is likely also dead in the slurry pit.

Very grim. Poor dogs (and poor fox), not a good end.

Two of the dogs were frail and elderly.
 
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ponyparty said:
2 in one day yesterday!!

There’s a house near à field I walk my dogs across, they have two dogs and one keeps escaping. It hears dogs nearby and comes through the fence; it’s run up to my dogs before - it’s friendly thankfully, just excited. Owners fully aware yet continue to allow it to happen. It usually stays near the house and goes back… Until this weekend.

I wanted to go for a nice Mother’s Day walk with my mum, son and dogs. Got onto the canal towpath, walked a little bit, but dogs poo’d so I ran back to the dog poo bin to save carrying the poo all the way round with us. As I got to the bin, à woman with a black lab was approaching, talking on the phone, completely oblivious. Black lab rushed my dog (usual lab-with-no-social-skills thing), didn’t read the room, wouldn’t leave my MT alone, owner doing nothing to recall/retrieve her dog, he snapped at it, it retaliated, next thing I know they’re both in the canal. Lab supremely unbothered by water obvs; my 11 year old single-coated terrier in à heavy fleece winter coat who HATES water scrabbling at the edge desperately to try and get out. Fished him out, lab gets out, it’s STILL in my dog’s face, with woman not attempting to grab/restrain it, just saying “oh Ruby he doesn’t want to play!”. Then she asks me if mine likes water (!) I snapped back NO HES TERRIFIED OF IT! Then she says “oh look, how cute, he’s holding his paw up” YES BECAUSE HES NON WEIGHT BEARING ON IT AFTER YOUR DOG BOWLED HIM INTO THE CANAL. Rang my mom to tell her to come (she was still a bit further down the canal with my son and the lurcher). Funny, woman walked off at this point. My poor boy was so cold and sad, I bundled both of them straight back to the car, luckily I always have loads of towels in the boot - nice Mother’s Day walk cancelled.

So, while I sorted my hypothermic and injured terrier out (and had a massive cry because MY POOR OLD BOY 😭) my mum took the lurcher out so she at least got a decent walk still. She took her down by the river and across the field by the house with the escaping dog. Dog was out again, except this time had run off down along the river and out onto the main road through the village, where it was dodging cars, running excitedly between the various dog walkers that were out. My mum watched it nearly get run over several times, before she managed to grab it and lasso it with the lurcher’s training lead.

Returned it to the owner “oh he’s like Houdini, we keep thinking we’ve filled the gaps and he keeps getting out”. Well put it on a chain or something then! They have horses too, hope they’re not so lax about keeping their horses in!

Had enough of people!!
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Hope your little Manny is ok, horrible experience for you both. If you meet the escapee again I would be inclined to catch it and call the dog warden. Maybe a fine would focus the owners on improving their fencing.
 
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