is 3000 to much for a tb?

Chellebean said:
It completely depends on the horse!! need some more information then that?
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Just been looking around and seen a fair few at that price, all been out and around doing local stuff, no really issues, all good to do etc.

Just a few people i know wouldnt pay more than £1000 for one, most only £300.

but then i see £3000, just woundering if most people still arent paying much for a tb?

For example if it was a welsh, cob, warmblood that had done the same would people pay more?
 
If it had been there and done it locally I may pay that much! As for your question about paying more for a warmblood or welsh then my answer would be no, but saying that I get on a lot better with TB's then welshes and believe WB have just as many issues as TBs.

Therefore would completely be on it's record and what it had done and also my impressions when ridden and met on the ground.
 
Mucky Shavings said:
Just been looking around and seen a fair few at that price, all been out and around doing local stuff, no really issues, all good to do etc.

Just a few people i know wouldnt pay more than £1000 for one, most only £300.

but then i see £3000, just woundering if most people still arent paying much for a tb?

For example if it was a welsh, cob, warmblood that had done the same would people pay more?
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Depends on what I would want the horse for. You can get tbs quite cheaply but its mainly through dealers and racing yards. Private owners seem to advertise for a lot more.
 
See, we'd want a lot more for the one Al rides and he's a raced TB. There's another non-raced one I know of and 3k would be miles too much... Depends entirely on what the horse has done, and what it's like, and what potential it has.
 
Odd question! Depends on what the horse is like and what it has done! There are thoroughbreds competing at the highest levels in all disciplines and they are worth quite a lot more than £3k! The breed has very little to do with the price really! 3k could be far too much or far too little for a TB! It also depends what you want to do with your horse! I got a free TB who I compete affiliated at novice (and soon elementary) dressage, and he is super! But he won't be a world beater!
 
Depends on the conformation and experience - as it would for any other breed. The main reason that I'd not bup a TB, and that they sometimes don't make much money, is not down to temprament, but the fact that a lot of them are not hardy, and so they take a lot of rugging and feeding through the winter - therefore costing much more...
 
If it is a youngish nice horse good conformation no vices good in all ways has been out and about a bit i wouldnt say 3000 is too much.

However i would always want to see a tb cantered in an open space in company then you can make a true desicion on how quiet it really is.
 
you can get any breed cheap these days, I don't see why you would pay less for a decent all rounder than a sports horse or id or cob. \i couldn't see me with anything else and if it was a decent horse and ticked my boxes I don't see why that would be a problem. What about all these top class event horses that are tb's. Really versatile and intelligent breed imho. Mine is so smart and I trust her, when crossing rough ground and others are trying to steer their horses thro' it, I give mine her head and let her pick her way herself, she is never wrong. Great brakes, never strong and is ridden with voice and seat. Bombproof on a hack. Ok can be silly now and again and needs a good routine but that's just a horse isn't it.
 
Thankyou
As a tb fan myself, I have however just ben drawn into a but of a debate atm at the yard, all tb haters and warm blooders. I keep on getting told, that was a nice transition/canter/jump/what ever followed by shame he's a tb.
ok so you don't like them, so what. However after beening told over and over again, that tbs are 10 a penny, sort of got me thinking what others think. I know my lot wouldn't buy one and after there lovely input of shame, if he was a cob he would be worth double comments. Not that I'm bothered much but looking to sell so don't to place price to high
 
Thoroughbreds are dealt a bit of a poisoned chalice - because you can pick up an ex racer so cheaply, a tb has to prove that much more to be worth a certain amount.

Its a sad truth that in most cases, when it comes to allrounders, an equivalent wb or cob will probably sell for more.

But that definitely doesn't mean that a tb can't be worth 3k!
 
Why would it not be worh 3k?

The breed has nothing to do with it it is the horse you need to look at as you do with any horse. The term tb does not mean bargain!!

You certainly can get bargain tb as there are a lot more around than any other breed, due to the racing market but these need to be treated as a young unbroken/newly broken young horse and brought on, all off which costs time and money. And there are tb out there been out of racing a few years where this has not been done, and hence on paper they will look cheap, but you usually get what you pay for.
 
Mucky Shavings said:
for a riding non raced, all rounder?
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Ex-racers are cheap because they're a 'by-product' of the racing industry - and they often have soundness and behavioural issues related to them having been racehorses (rather than to then being thoroughbreds.)

A TB of decent breeding(temperament and conformation decent) - who hasn't raced (or been in training and not made it to the starting stalls) should be judged as a sport horse - and priced according to how he looks, how well he's been schooled, and how he's performed.
 
Round my ways a tb that has done nothing but a bit of hacking starts at 3k! I've just bought an ex racer from ireland and he's a lovely fella, I got a bargain as I bought it from a friend but he's a nice all rounder and I believe would well worth 3k as has done a bit if xc, hunting and p2p and goes lovely on the flat. I don't like how people undervalue tbs as they have proven themselves to be such versatile horses. Would pick a good tb over a wb anyday.
 
JanetGeorge said:
Ex-racers are cheap because they're a 'by-product' of the racing industry - and they often have soundness and behavioural issues related to them having been racehorses (rather than to then being thoroughbreds.)

A TB of decent breeding(temperament and conformation decent) - who hasn't raced (or been in training and not made it to the starting stalls) should be judged as a sport horse - and priced according to how he looks, how well he's been schooled, and how he's performed.
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^^^^This. I have a TB (never raced) and I would not have any other horse. She hacks out (you can canter and gallop her out and pull up easily), good doer, perfect in traffic (tractors, etc), good paces for dressage, jumps, good temperment...
 
A good horse is a good horse. Full stop.

Its impossible to say what is too much for a TB - or any other breed. IMHO if a horse is out of training and reschooled - or has never been in training - it should be judged on what is in front of you, without preconceptions about breed stereotypes.

£3k is a reasonable amount for a lower level decent RC allrounder, irrespective of breed.
 
chocolatepony said:
Odd question! Depends on what the horse is like and what it has done! There are thoroughbreds competing at the highest levels in all disciplines and they are worth quite a lot more than £3k! The breed has very little to do with the price really! 3k could be far too much or far too little for a TB! It also depends what you want to do with your horse! I got a free TB who I compete affiliated at novice (and soon elementary) dressage, and he is super! But he won't be a world beater!
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Totally agree with this - TBs are very unfairly discriminated against - they can be the sweetest natured, sensitive, calm, laid back, push button of equines.

It does not make a jot of difference what breed the animal is you can get good and bad of all breeds.

£3,000 is nothing for a good TB.
 
I feel so sorry for Thoroughbreds, the majority of people stereotype them because if the racing industry.

Personally, I wouldn't have anything else. They are intelligent, sensitive, quirky and generally very caring and loyal.

My TB has done SJ XC and dressage, he is bombproof, a confidence giver, good doer, fantastic personality and manners. His only downside in my opinion is he is a little to laid back! He was up for £5500. Some may think that is way, way above and beyond what he is worth but IMO, he has qualities that you would PAY that much to have. We have a Belgian Warmblood on our yard, fairly green, bolshy, lazy, bites, spooky, rears etc etc and his owner paid £5000 for it. I know which horse I would rather spend my money on!

As someone previously said, a horse is only worth what someone will pay. If I like the horse, I'll pay the tab!
 
Depends on what people are willing to pay. I wouldn't pay that much for something that is going to need rugged up and fed in winter, have its feet faffed with and so on. Too much additional costs with things such as Tbs IMO.

I shall now scarper before the "my TB lives out unrugged all winter in siberia and has hooves of granite" brigade come along. :D
 
I don't think it matters whether the horse has been in training and not raced, or has actually raced, and to be honest, I would only have ones which have raced as to do a lot of the ROR classes now, the horse actually has to have raced. I've got one which was raced 65 times over fences, and another which raced twice in bumpers. They are both equally easy to ride. I hacked my TB mare out with a cob this morning - mine was bombproof and didn't look at anything, and had to give cob a lead, whereas the cob was dancing on the road and spooking at everything in sight. Cob was properly broken in, has obviously never raced and they are the same age. Would I swap?? Not in a million years!!
 
See i am a huuuge fan of TBs one of the best breeds imo. All the people at my yard say they 'hate' TBs which i just cannot understand, the breed has done so much for other breeds. They are so versatile and can add a bit of refinement and speed if crossed with a cob for instance. My horse is a Knabstrupper x TB and i just cant see past him. Love em :) x
 
Tinkerbee said:
Depends on what people are willing to pay. I wouldn't pay that much for something that is going to need rugged up and fed in winter, have its feet faffed with and so on. Too much additional costs with things such as Tbs IMO.

I shall now scarper before the "my TB lives out unrugged all winter in siberia and has hooves of granite" brigade come along. :D
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Pahaha- our TB requires about 50 rugs, a snuggy hood and special boots in the winter and gets fed his own bodyweight twice a day... As did our other one, who was definitely NEVER worth 3k!

Went on a hack today with our TB and me on a proper Irish hunter type. We were nannied by the TB rather beautifully... I think one thing people neglect to realise is that many raced TBs have to have good manners out in company unless they're very special- otherwise you'll have a stampede each time you exercise them!
 
Holly Hocks said:
I don't think it matters whether the horse has been in training and not raced, or has actually raced, and to be honest, I would only have ones which have raced as to do a lot of the ROR classes now, the horse actually has to have raced. I've got one which was raced 65 times over fences, and another which raced twice in bumpers. They are both equally easy to ride.
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Ah - I wasn't thinking about 'ease of riding' - just the increased likelihood of wear and tear - particularly if the horse has been in training as a 2 year old! NH types usually don't start until 4 - so unless they suffer an actual injury, they're less likely to have soundness issues!

Obviously eligibility for ROR classes has to be taken into account if you're in to showing (In my youth, I bought ex-racers for Sj and eventing.)
 
You wouldn't be able to buy mine for £3k! Perfect manners, in and out of the stable, responsive, able, sensible ride, snaffled mouthed in company and out and the sweetest horse you could ever wish to meet, I inherited him from my daughter who lost interest and after initially umming and aahing about whether to sell him, decided to keep him and he won't be going anywhere. Actually easier to rug than my cob, heavyweight in the thick of winter and now going naked. Feet were terrible to begin with but with the help of correct feeding and a good farrier his feet are now as near perfect as any other horse.
 
You seem to imply that the horse should be valued differently because it is a TB.

A horse should be valued judged on performance, manners, suitability to a job, conformation, etc, not by it's breed.

Yes, TBs have certain faults common to the breed, eg. poor feet, more difficult to keep weight on, quick thinking. But so do other breeds. Eg. natives are prone to laminitis, cobs are known to be bolshy, WBs can be tempermental.

TBs are built for performance. The majority are quick thinking, intelligent horses, which makes them able to compete at top levels.

The common misconception that all TBs are nutty really isn't true. This is normally due to poor management/feed/work routine.
 
I really dont see why TB's are assumed to be cheaper than any other breed?! People seem to think they cost more than any other breed but why should they? Some horses (no matter what breed) are better at keeping weight on etc. than others. There's no reason why you can't winter a TB living out rugged up and fed the same way as any other horse.

Its funny but I've always found the natives most high maintenence as its always a battle to keep them slim and lami-free!
 
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