Is anyone looking to buy ATM?

galaxy23 said:
Bought my girl 2 weeks ago.

I looked at several dealers, but only one privately. I felt that private homes were being a lot more unrealistic about price than dealers were.
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I agree I've found that while looking. I've come across some very good youngsters that the dealers are putting a reasonable and realistic price on, then compare it to some of the private ads with questionable breeding and they are asking twice the price!!:rolleyes:
 
We're looking to buy, not noticed prices hugely reduced but maybe that's because native youngstock were never at the top end of the market :p
 
Meow-Kiss said:
I AM!
Too far away to be of any relevance to any of you though ;)
Probably going to have to import though because there seem to be no dressage youngstock (3+) for sale here at the minute with decent breeding, conformation, temperaments and talent!
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Hi - just sent you a private message but not sure if it went through! Technology! Let me know if it hasn't. Thanks - R
 
natalia said:
Ok, here's my current gripe. I have a stunning reg ID for sale priced sensibly at £5500 he sold for just under this as a 4 yr old and is twice the horse he was then and is well schooled and very flashy. I've had two people come to see him, both have looked at him, one person came three times. Both have loved him and made offers ...... of £3500 and £4000 respectively. I have told both this is just not on and both have admitted their budget is only £4000. SO WHY COME AND LOOK AT A HORSE PRICED FOR £1500 OVER YOUR BUDGET!??? There are bargains to be had yes, but a good horse will always sell for proper money and I see no reason why we would give this horse away for any less than he is worth! I can't buy sound, straight, decent horses out of Ireland for under £3500 (and we have been trawling through everywhere! my own new 4 year old who had no breeding papers but is a lovely stamp cost £4k straight out of ireland and he was barely broken and I'm trade!) so this buyers market idea is really taking the piss. Rant over.
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Sorry but there is nothing wrong with making an offer, you either accept it or reject it. Some sellers would rather have a quick sale for less money than wait until spring to get the money you want, it all depends upon the sellers circumstances.

I'm not selling a horse (I am looking to buy though) but when selling other things, the car, Hubby's art I would rather have an offer that I can consider and either accept or reject than have no offers and therefore no option!

Many people when selling (a horse a car a house whatever) price it on the basis that they know people will offer less and that their price is mearly a starting point for negotiations.

Perhaps these people were a bit optimistic but perhaps they would have upped their offer eventually. Or perhaps they just didn't think your horse was worth the asking price but liked him and offered what they thought but didn't want to offend when you refused their offer.
 
galaxy23 said:
Bought my girl 2 weeks ago.

I looked at several dealers, but only one privately. I felt that private homes were being a lot more unrealistic about price than dealers were.[/QUOT

i'me window shopping currently, trying to work out what I want and what is realistic. I 've noticed the above too. For what I am looking for (15-16 hands, 100%, good in traffic not world beater but safe and sound) dealers are advertising around £1500, private at least £2700.
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Katt said:
Sorry but there is nothing wrong with making an offer, you either accept it or reject it. Some sellers would rather have a quick sale for less money than wait until spring to get the money you want, it all depends upon the sellers circumstances.

I'm not selling a horse (I am looking to buy though) but when selling other things, the car, Hubby's art I would rather have an offer that I can consider and either accept or reject than have no offers and therefore no option!

Many people when selling (a horse a car a house whatever) price it on the basis that they know people will offer less and that their price is mearly a starting point for negotiations.

Perhaps these people were a bit optimistic but perhaps they would have upped their offer eventually. Or perhaps they just didn't think your horse was worth the asking price but liked him and offered what they thought but didn't want to offend when you refused their offer.
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Good point. "Sorry, but my budget is only £X" can often be a euphemism for "I think your horse is only worth £X but I don't want to offend you by saying so". Whether they were right or not is another question - natalia's horse sounds super to me!

I can understand how frustrating this must be for natalia, but there is no point in taking offence - I know of a buyer who recently offered HALF the asking price for a horse, and the offer was accepted. In the current market, quite a few horses are selling for considerably less than their owners' estimate of their value.
 
I was looking to buy, all Spring and Summer, (found one, it failed the vetting) but have put it on the back burner for a bit now. The time of year (as in us going into winter) and such associated costs aren't what's stopping. I just don't have the time to drive round the country viewing because of my degree demands at the moment. Hopefully, in the new year I shall start hunting again :) (and hopefully prices will be lower than ever! :D)
 
I keep hearing about how people are selling horses for nothing but not so here in Scotland. I've got 8 and a full time job which is way too many and only brought one 2 weeks ago but I just can't stop myself looking. I must not buy, I must not buy, ........
 
Yes I am! Looking for a nice sensible allrounder with potential to affiliate - but so it seems is everyone at the moment! I wondered about waiting until the Spring but thought this time of year would give me some time to gel with the new horse over the winter and get my act together, plus prices could be lower? Not really sure whether they are.

There seems to be quite a few for sale between 2 and 3k which I don't remember from a couple of years ago, but plenty of really nice horses still 6k plus, unfortunately beyond my budget. No idea whether they're actually selling for that though.

Three views so far - one really safe out cubbing but a nutter in the school (how does that work??), one I didn't trust the owner was giving me a straight story, and one I can't make up my mind about.

The search continues...
 
Yes people are- I advertised my mare a week or so ago, second people to see her on Tuesday wanted to buy straight away, she passed the vetting today and her new owner is absolutely lovely. Mare is also lovely, I wasn't in a rush to sell and she wasn't actually looking to buy just yet but seems they are perfect for each other! I don't think time of year means anything really, if I lost a horse or found that my horse wasn't suitable I would want to buy another straight away.
 
I WAS!!

After I finished uni I though...FINALLY!!!! I can buy my very first horse after years of working with horses and various loans etc.

I spent all summer looking and I could not find the type of horse I wanted with my limited budget. I saw a few that were not as described, and inquired about a couple at a yard my friend worked at, asked her and turned out both were lame from various things (they were only going to get worse over time so not recoverable) yet owners were not telling anyone and still asking for a lot of money! Surely that's wasting their own time??!

I have decided that it is now not the right time. With rising costs in keeping a horse, lack of a stable job (working temp part time at the mo), not knowing if I will be moving about the country with other half while he does his masters,phd etc. It is just not the right thing to be buying right now and I am gutted.

I am looking for the type of horse that still fetches a good price at the moment and need a forward going but safe horse that can give me my confidence back in jumping after a few accidents in the past....unfortunately those horses are not in my budget right now! But if I focus on a good career at the moment then maybe in a couple of years I can afford it :)

I wouldn't mind buying in the winter if I could afford it right now, gives you time to bond before spring/summer competitions!
 
I am! Advertised my pony 2 week ago and sold to the 2nd viewer who picked him up this morning (much tears!!).
I went to see one last weekend that was described as a 'perfect gentleman', but could only jump at flat out gallop and pulled all my stomach muscles trying to slow it up! Am booked to see one on Sunday and am very nervous about trying a strange horse now after last weekend, but know the perfect horse is out there, so will take my time looking.
I am not too concerned about buying at this time of year as have already bought hay/bedding in for the horse that was sold, so have plenty if I do find a new horse over the winter period. The prices are slightly lower and if I find a horse I like am planning on trying to knock a bit off, but if was perfect would probably be persuaded to pay the full amount.
 
I think the market has slowed over the last month or so...

My old horse sold for 4k more than I sold him for in August.. a year after I had sold him. Due to unforeseen stuff, he is back up for sale, and she can't shift him and has dropped over 3k in price already... winter definitely makes selling more difficult!
 
natalia said:
Ok, here's my current gripe. I have a stunning reg ID for sale priced sensibly at £5500 he sold for just under this as a 4 yr old and is twice the horse he was then and is well schooled and very flashy. I've had two people come to see him, both have looked at him, one person came three times. Both have loved him and made offers ...... of £3500 and £4000 respectively. I have told both this is just not on and both have admitted their budget is only £4000. SO WHY COME AND LOOK AT A HORSE PRICED FOR £1500 OVER YOUR BUDGET!??? There are bargains to be had yes, but a good horse will always sell for proper money and I see no reason why we would give this horse away for any less than he is worth! I can't buy sound, straight, decent horses out of Ireland for under £3500 (and we have been trawling through everywhere! my own new 4 year old who had no breeding papers but is a lovely stamp cost £4k straight out of ireland and he was barely broken and I'm trade!) so this buyers market idea is really taking the piss. Rant over.
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I think the difficulty is there are different attitudes with sellers!
Some people try it on a bit when pricing their horse for sale and mark it up to drop it back. Others value it quite genuinely. Until you actually go and see a horse they maybe can't tell which type of seller you are!! Personally I would never go and see one out of my budget in case I ended up desperately wanting it and it remained out of budget.

When I have sold (a few) horses or lorry / trailer I have priced what I believe to be a realistic price and that is pretty much what I want. To be fair I have always ended up getting it - so don't give up hope! When I sold my trailer I did have some silly offers well below asking price which I just rejected outright and got full asking price :D

The market has definitely fallen though. I am sure there are a lot of horses out there now worth less than people paid for them despite having good competition records and a lot of time and money invested in them.
 
I'm selling a 13.3 pony, a real star, but have only had people phoning who want a pony suitable for nervous small children, now shes good but I want her to go to a super home where she is going to have some fun so haven't even had anyone come and see her yet. Too fussy!
Still, a lady rang tonight who I know and it would be a fantastic home so am frantically trying not to get too excited.
 
Interesting, from what I have heard the market has picked up in the last 3 weeks compared to August/Sept... Maybe it's diff parts of the country?

This is only what I've been told by a good friend who's a dealer and the dealer I bought my mare off (diff people) who sold NOTHING August and beginning of Sept and are now very very busy.
 
carolineb said:
Yes me. Sold my young horse beginning of Sept and am looking for a stonking but beautifully behaved hunter - fun but sensible. Have got one lined up to see on Sunday but should think its been sold by then.
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If it's GOOD, and fit to start right away, it will be. I've been trawling around trying to find a ready-to-go hunter for my husband (crazy that with 70-odd horses on the place I DON'T have one suitable :rolleyes:) - but with a very decent budget I haven't managed to find one.

Saw one stonking hunter - fit and ready to go - but a bit too 'ready to go' for my husband. Travelled MILES to see another and discovered the picture in the ad was at LEAST 3 years old (judging by mane growth!) and he was SO unfit you wouldn't have dared put him through a 5 stage vetting! I DID make an offer for him (about half his advertised price as he would have taken SO long to get fit that the season would have been nearly over by the time he was ready) but they got a better offer.

So if anyone knows of a GOOD HW 'point & go' hunter around the 17hh mark - to carry a week-end gentleman rider who Field Masters in a hill country and rides at 16 stone - and ISN'T a million miles away from Shropshire, please send me a PM!

On the selling front, I'm finding the market DEAD for yearlings and 2 year-olds, but quite healthy for nice 3 & 4 year old IDs and ID sport horses that are backed and going quietly! I've sold 2 in the past 2 months (but still have a couple left!:D)

I have a stunning reg ID for sale priced sensibly at £5500 he sold for just under this as a 4 yr old and is twice the horse he was then and is well schooled and very flashy.
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That's more than sensible - practically give-away!! PM me his details if you like - I've got someone looking for a couple of sensible IDs and for some reason they won't believe 3 and 4 year olds CAN be virtually bombproof!! :rolleyes: (I'm currently using a 3 year old - backed 8 weeks - as the 'sensible companion' to hack out with one whose been backed for 2 weeks!)
 
I`ve recently bought a rising 4 HW feathered cob, well put together, well brought up, teeth, physio and jabs all up to date, broken nicely(professionally) to WTC, and safe as houses to hack for £800. I recon same chap would have made nearer to 3k before the slump?

Went to the Dartmoor pony sales at the beginning of the month and decent cob x youngsters to make about 15hh wern`t even making £30!

People are giving away horses round here (Hampshire) as they can`t sell and hay/feed prices have gone through the roof :-(
 
jsr said:
I'm looking to buy a youngster. Want a shire or clyde cross or something guaranteed big chunky and hairy!!! Ideally I want something 6 months or under, happy to put a deposit and wait on for the right one. I want it young because if it's going to be a big heavy I want to know that it's been handled properly and it's learnt manners early. I want it to be walking out in hand as early as poss so I can get it used to traffic and life in general. I've no rush as my lad is only 9 now so he's no where near slowing down so I'm happy to get a youngster that in 5 or 6 years can take over some work from him and he can start to relax abit. I'm in absolutely no rush as I'm perfectly happy with my lad now and I want to ensure the next one is as wonderful as he is, I'm not someone who buys and sells horses because they don't suit me, once bought they are part of my life 100% and stay with me til death so I have to ensure I get it right with this baby. :D
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Here is one for sale dont now where u are
If u look on dragondriving there quite a few for sale

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Della, Yearling Clydesdale Filly
Della, yearling Clydesdale filly, excellent temperament. Tons of feather, good hind leg, very showable with top breeding. For sale due to having too many. First to see will buy. Dam can be seen.
Passported, microchipped and fully registered with the Clydesdale Horse Society. Wormed up to date.
Wintered in so not bog burnt, loads, leads, ties, stables, hoses etc... Transport can be arranged nationwide
Price: £2,200
Location: Scotland
Contact: Zoe
Phone: 07903 165301
Email:
 
JanetGeorge said:
been trawling around trying to find a ready-to-go hunter for my husband (crazy that with 70-odd horses on the place I DON'T have one suitable :rolleyes:) - but with a very decent budget I haven't managed to find one.

So if anyone knows of a GOOD HW 'point & go' hunter around the 17hh mark - to carry a week-end gentleman rider who Field Masters in a hill country and rides at 16 stone - and ISN'T a million miles away from Shropshire, please send me a PM!/QUOTE]


Try Roger & Kate Rimmer 01704 832438 / 07515711374. They are in Formby, Merseyside so not exactly near Shropshire but not a million miles away either and they usually have some nice big hunters in. I personally have never bought from them but ive seen their horses in the field and I know quite a few people who have bought stock from them and also some who have used their hirelings and they dont have a bad word to say, so might be worth a try :)
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Sprout said:
Yes I am!

I have just sold one of mine, and am now looking for a safe plod for me and my husband to share, and also a schoolmaster for my daughter to move on to for eventing. :)
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I am selling a lovely welsh cob ploddy mare!! she is 6yr old..good bloodlines, 15.1hh, and bay! message me for info!
 
Snowysadude said:
I know three people actively looking to buy at the moment but none are in a massive rush to buy :). Two are looking for allrounders and one for a show cob type :)
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then your friend would have wanted to be where I went on Sunday - produce mainly show cobs and showed us their HOYS people and the "up and coming" they had as well. I went to look at a potential eventer. Was amazed as had a lot of stock but because they are bought to farm and bring on for top class showing, there was nothing there that didn't have the most fantastic free walk and confirmation.
 
I think the market is really unpredictable ATM. I sold a lovely 12'2 coloured a month ago - sold with a few quirks that had been all explained for £3200. But in July I failed to sell a 13'2" less flashy looking but safe pony £3500. It is more scopey, done more XC, better dressage and safe and easy to handle. I thought it would be easier to sell as it is safe and easy but not so. I would buy at the moment but need to sell pony first. Just waiting for market to pick up so don't waste advertising fees. Where to people generally look for ponies. I tend to use Horsemart but seems to be more full of dealers these days and I always have the feeling they are economical with the truth and good at it. At least with a private sale they are not so well versed with dodging questions that get the truth.
 
natalia said:
Ok, here's my current gripe. I have a stunning reg ID for sale priced sensibly at £5500 he sold for just under this as a 4 yr old and is twice the horse he was then and is well schooled and very flashy. I've had two people come to see him, both have looked at him, one person came three times. Both have loved him and made offers ...... of £3500 and £4000 respectively. I have told both this is just not on and both have admitted their budget is only £4000. SO WHY COME AND LOOK AT A HORSE PRICED FOR £1500 OVER YOUR BUDGET!??? There are bargains to be had yes, but a good horse will always sell for proper money and I see no reason why we would give this horse away for any less than he is worth! I can't buy sound, straight, decent horses out of Ireland for under £3500 (and we have been trawling through everywhere! my own new 4 year old who had no breeding papers but is a lovely stamp cost £4k straight out of ireland and he was barely broken and I'm trade!) so this buyers market idea is really taking the piss. Rant over.
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the problem I think is there are too many horses for sale that lack quality which gives the impression that prices are low. However what the buyers don't seem to get is that they are always disappointed when they get there! But still they look at cheap horses and see they are not selling so expect you to come down too much.
 
natalia said:
Ok, here's my current gripe. I have a stunning reg ID for sale priced sensibly at £5500 he sold for just under this as a 4 yr old and is twice the horse he was then and is well schooled and very flashy. I've had two people come to see him, both have looked at him, one person came three times. Both have loved him and made offers ...... of £3500 and £4000 respectively. I have told both this is just not on and both have admitted their budget is only £4000. SO WHY COME AND LOOK AT A HORSE PRICED FOR £1500 OVER YOUR BUDGET!??? There are bargains to be had yes, but a good horse will always sell for proper money and I see no reason why we would give this horse away for any less than he is worth! I can't buy sound, straight, decent horses out of Ireland for under £3500 (and we have been trawling through everywhere! my own new 4 year old who had no breeding papers but is a lovely stamp cost £4k straight out of ireland and he was barely broken and I'm trade!) so this buyers market idea is really taking the piss. Rant over.
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Simple - state NO OFFERS on the advert & on the phone when people enquire. Problem solved.
 
I would love to buy, seen a fantastic horse but he's a stallion so just nowhere to keep him! I don't have my own land and no-one wants to take a stallion on livery!
 
I am trying to sell a lovely 14.2 Irish coloured pony. a real sweetie, lovely nature and temperament, just green as we have been concentrating on the jumping ponies. Beautifully marked. I am taking a huge loss on him as I now have him advertised at only £1300. Only had 2 phone calls!!!
 
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