Is Carl Hester breaking BD and FEI rules?

follyfoot6

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As seen in H&H this week there is a photo of Carl Hester on Uthopia winning a PSG competition with his horse wearing ear covers (or what ever you call them). Under BD rule 56 this is not allowed and under FEI rules "ear muffs are under penalty of elimination and strictly forbidden." Or could they be interpreted as a protective fly hood which are "then permitted in extreme cases only". Just wondering if we grass root dressage riders would get away with them, probably not. Wondering whether to draw it to BD's attention? Look forward to your comments.
 
I can't imagine that Mr Hester would arrogantly think he could get away with using something that is against the rules, I would be willing to bet he either had permission or the photo was taken after prize giving.
 
Perhaps he had dispensation????! No idea if possible.
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Dear follyfoot6 try not to be bitter! I was at the show and carl requested permission from judge at c if ear covers were acceptable as it was a particularly hot day with midges. Permission was granted as it is also allowed in FEI competitions at the discretion of the leading judge..

So you too can use them if you want to keep up with the hesters!!
 
Well if you havent recognised my user name its not worth telling ;-)

Believe me I heard it with my own ears - so dont worry about telling tales to BD.
 
I have always wondered this as you see quite a few competitors with them on internationally... My mare gets so swishy in her head if a stray hair touches her ear (she is plaited up tightly most of the time because of this) so I can see how they would help!

I am sure one of the junior riders had them on at Someford Park, but I believe that particular test was run under FEI rules...
 
Having slept on what happened last night and in view of Sarkie's response, I am a little disappointed that someone who is obviously in a position of authority should reply to my innocent question so robustly. These forums are for getting things out in the open and just a reasonable explanation would have surficed.
 
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I should think this was the bit the quite rightly pi55ed him off.
Like I said in my original reply, I don't believe he'd be arrogant, or even stupid enough to think he could get away with it! So I can certainly understand why he registered JUST to reply to you and you got the reponse you did!
 
Umm, i don't think sarkie was the judge
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as someone mentioned, have a little look at a bio for Mr Hester.

anyway, hopefully this discussion will be brought to BD attention and horses competing in the lower levels will also have the option of ear covers.

seems a bit sad that we are allowed to crank their mouths shut, but not allowed to provide our "happy athletes" with a little comfort.
 
well, follyfoot, if you'd just asked an "innocent question" perhaps the answer wouldn't have been so sharp; i hardly think that saying "I'm sure Mr Hester thinks he can get away with anything!" was very reasonable, in fact is was pretty catty.
 
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I am a little disappointed that someone who is obviously in a position of authority should reply to my innocent question so robustly. These forums are for getting things out in the open and just a reasonable explanation would have surficed.

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As would just asking your question rather than adding about bringing it to the attention of BD
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I feel it was this that annoyed rather than the genuine question.
 
Yes I thought that, I very much doubt they are in a position of authority they are probably just a Carl groupie or wannabe. Clearly gay though.

I think your downfall was suggesting that you let BD know ie why would you the photo was there for all to see and they wouldn't have missed that at the comp anyway.
 
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Yes I thought that, I very much doubt they are in a position of authority they are probably just a Carl groupie or wannabe. Clearly gay though.

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Don't be too sensitive, you did bring it up and look up the rules and all. I can't see any competitor of Carl Hester's standing, being naive enough to break the rules or expect that it wouldn't be noticed by us lot.
Many years ago I used to have lessons with Pammy at my riding school and Mr Hester as you call him was just starting out. So I am biased as I was, as you say one of that lot.
I think he is great, talented and intuitive as a rider, and trainer, I also hope he is coming to the sunshine tour next year, as when he last came we learnt more watching him school in than watching any Spanish trainer/ rider.
 
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Yes I thought that, I very much doubt they are in a position of authority they are probably just a Carl groupie or wannabe. Clearly gay though.

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That is just too funny!!
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LMAO!! I think it was info straight from the horses mouth LHS...
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It looks like the photo was taken during his test, I am sure Mr Hester thinks he can get away with anything!

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Reckon this rattled him a bit too. It was an innocent question which a lot of us were interested in hearing the answer to but reckon you got as good as you gave (if that makes sense!)
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