Is Carl Hester breaking BD and FEI rules?

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Yes I thought that, I very much doubt they are in a position of authority they are probably just a Carl groupie or wannabe. Clearly gay though.

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My thoughts exactly Wizoz!!! what sort of comment is that!!!!???
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It's certainly tempting to think the top riders are prone to f***ing up sometimes like the rest of us, but Carl is riding at a level where a giant stuffup like that could have major ramifications on his business.

I think the reason he IS the dog's doo-da's is that he, quite simply, doesn't make the mistakes the rest of us do!

Sarkie, eh?...
 
You don't have to be Carl Hester to get special pemission to ride using something that is listed as against BD/FEI rules, i had to compete a couple of years ago on one of my horses who had inadvertently trodden on a rotten nail, wasn't lame and was entered for a dressage competition, vet wrote me a letter to say horse was sound to compete but must be competed with an Easiboot on to stop anything getting into the hole whilst it healed. Judges and venue were more than happy for this to happen and he came 4th. It just proves that judges are human and its the old saying if you don't ask you don't get.
 
Have some of you really not realised who 'Sarkie' is or are you being deliberately provocative
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I'm not mentioning anything about dressage ever again knowing who could be reading my post
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Unless of course son gets a 20
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applechaff, yes, i do realise who 'sarkie' is, but i still don't think there was any need for a reference about sexuality... very bizarre imho.
as they say, don't say anything on here you wouldn't say to the person's face, you never know who might be reading...
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QR - I agree with others, I dare say the comment about Mr Hester thinking he can get away with anything might have rattled him somewhat, not really a very productive comment was it?!
Fair play to 'sarkie' for defending and welcome!
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I think this has all been blown out of proportion. I don't think follyfoot6 meant to be catty/bitchy but yes, it could have been interpreted in that way. ie, [ QUOTE ]
I'm sure Mr Hester can get away with anything!

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Some of the responses were equally (if not more) catty including sarkie's - no matter who he actually is it was uncalled for to post such arrogant replies as

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Well if you havent recognised my user name its not worth telling ;-)

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The rest of the responses were not much more constructive either, they just turned this thread into a petty argument which is unnecessary because it was a justified question.

It is healthy to question aspects of the horse world because in my opinion it has a tendency to be biased and I am not the only one with this view. I think you should all slow down and think before jumping to the defensive because follyfoot6 was not having a go at Carl, she was merely pointing out something that she was unsure on.
 
I think follyfoot was having a good bitch about Mr Hester to be fair..

And I think he was well within his right to reply with sarcasm..

I also think you could have choosen a better post as your first post.. Not coming here and nocking people who you dont know.. you have come across as one of Follyfoots minions.. Not good im afraid,

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Well that is your opinion, as it is mine whether to back up follyfoot6 or not. Just because somebody agrees with someone when the rest are disagreeing does not make somebody their 'minion'.

I often read the forum but have never felt compelled to register and actually reply, this has motivated me to because I feel people are, as I stated before, blowing it out of proportion.
 
Im sure someone in Carls position wouldnt assume that they could get away with anything, he is constantly watched by too many and I know he would work within the rules. There are occasions when a judge or judges can grant expection to the rules for example.. kt ( glamourdol) competed at Hickstead Premier League without a glove on her left hand because she had broken her wrist 3 days before and was in plaster. I rang BD and cleared it with the judges on the morning of the comp.
 
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As seen in H&H this week there is a photo of Carl Hester on Uthopia winning a PSG competition with his horse wearing ear covers (or what ever you call them). Under BD rule 56 this is not allowed and under FEI rules "ear muffs are under penalty of elimination and strictly forbidden." Or could they be interpreted as a protective fly hood which are "then permitted in extreme cases only". Just wondering if we grass root dressage riders would get away with them, probably not. Wondering whether to draw it to BD's attention? Look forward to your comments.

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ahesk1, how can you say this was a "healthy question" when the poster was considering dobbing CH in to BD???

Lets look at the real picture here shall we, CH is one of our most prolific dressage riders in this country, why the hell would he NOT know the rules about wearing ear covers in a dressage test, have you all gone mad and think that he's just a nobody
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Jesus, get real....
 
It is oh so true that the written word can be misconstrued at times but IMHO the original post was catty and uncalled for.

Carl has been a superb ambassador for the sport in this country and I think that even if he had made a mistake for once, he deserved better than this pointedly bitchy post.
 
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Carl has been a superb ambassador for the sport in this country and I think that even if he had made a mistake for once, he deserved better than this pointedly bitchy post.

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Exactly but my point is, I don't think he WOULD make that mistake, he's been in this game for far too long to do so, IMHO.
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I think this has all been blown out of proportion. I don't think follyfoot6 meant to be catty/bitchy but yes, it could have been interpreted in that way. ie, [ QUOTE ]
I'm sure Mr Hester can get away with anything!

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Some of the responses were equally (if not more) catty including sarkie's - no matter who he actually is it was uncalled for to post such arrogant replies as

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Well if you havent recognised my user name its not worth telling ;-)

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The rest of the responses were not much more constructive either, they just turned this thread into a petty argument which is unnecessary because it was a justified question.

It is healthy to question aspects of the horse world because in my opinion it has a tendency to be biased and I am not the only one with this view. I think you should all slow down and think before jumping to the defensive because follyfoot6 was not having a go at Carl, she was merely pointing out something that she was unsure on.

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Rubbish, the OP was clearly having a go, trying to (for whatever odd reason) either get CH in trouble or troll the forum. If they genuinely wanted to know, the question could have been put in a better, less snide way, not by insinuating that CH had delibrately flaunted the rules and got away with it.

FWIW, I would have thought someone of CH's standing is not so stupid as to think that breaking the rules in such a way would gain him anything. He has too much to lose and, tbh, doesn't really need to stoop that low now, does he?
 
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applechaff, yes, i do realise who 'sarkie' is, but i still don't think there was any need for a reference about sexuality... very bizarre imho.
as they say, don't say anything on here you wouldn't say to the person's face, you never know who might be reading...
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Kerilli - I wasn't referring to you directly, more the original poster, you were quite right about sexuality having zero to do with anything
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I think the fact that this was posted in Latest News shows the OP is just out to cause trouble. Why post on here? If OP had genuine concerns, why not contact BD and ask, instead of suggesting it on here?
 
Am I the only one who feels mildly embarrassed by this whole thread (by association - I haven't commented on it anywhere) and who thinks it should probably be put to bed now?
 
I think I'll go with the good old "question asked and answered"

Carl has a website, I'm sure there is a contact email. So if the question still burns, ask the man!

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Am I the only one who feels mildly embarrassed by this whole thread (by association - I haven't commented on it anywhere) and who thinks it should probably be put to bed now?

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Me too
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LMAO. I knew this was going to get interesting last night, as i was fairly sure who sarkie was and is within about two guesses..... I thought the OP was catty which is why i was so interested to see the responses as I do know that a great many of the famous read this forum, some of them even comment.
being gay has nothing to do with anything, CH may well have forgotten to remove his horses ear covers or the judge might not have noticed or both, as sometimes happens with boots. as it happens he just asked for permission, WTF did it matter in the first place? with the photographic evidence in front of everybody including BD if anyone had wanted to object then or immediately after the test, they would have done so by now, so it was fairly safe to assume CH had the appropriate permission or we would have heard about the row by now!
And I dont need to go on about CH and what he has done for dressage as his number one groom has already worked for a world and european champion so carl is hardly impressive by comparisson yet, and that would be the day when she sent a horse into any ring not appropriately dressed!
 
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Well if you havent recognised my user name its not worth telling ;-)

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Isn't that a bit like the celeb bleating "Don't you know who I am?". (No, I don't and I don't care
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What a wierd thread, I think the whole thing is an over-reaction to the OP.
 
Indeed, CH, you are a dream to watch sometimes but I wouldnt have a scooby doo what 'sarkie' meant.

I have read all this with interest with my cup of tea and a packet of biscuits and I think it has all gone a little over the top now. A wrongly worded post and a reply from the man himself. CH is fab but not god, calm down, it's a bit of material over a pair of ears that has been explained and should be the end of it.
 
i hardly think some1 in mr h's position would flaunt the rules, the poor man prob knows the bd rule book inside out as im sure there has been many occasions when he has been the subject of jealousy and had to make sure he is in the correct position. anyway a wee bit of material over its ears isnt suddenly going to increase a score from 50%-80% riding and training got the results not ear covers!!!!!
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For those of you that are interested; I am going to be sending in an application for dispensation for ear covers (when I get round to it).
I rang BD and they said I would need very good veterinary gounds for it. I have to submit a report from the vet with details of the horses condition, my horses treatment history and the vet would need to recommend that ear covers should be worn in competition.
I was also going to submit photos of his ears when the midges get at them so they can see why.

They are banned because BD are worried that they would be used to muffle sound. I have to agree with them on this one because it would be bloody dangerous. Not to mention ear covers becoming the next ridiculous fashion assessory!!!

My horse has ear fungus/plague, In the summer the midges attack it and make it bleed. Cannot touch his ears at all and you have to lift the bridle over very carefully.
 
I'm back, I certainly seem to have shaken things up a bit! Thankyou everyone who had an intellectual comment to say about my observations. There does seem to be some fairly infantile ones which have missed the point completely. I was at Somerford Park on said day, and am a keen dressage rider.
 
lol do you really think CH has time to come on this forum ? And i agree that the comments to follyfoot6 where harsh ! The rule book is their for a reason..and yes people that are getting unfair treatment should be reported to BD.

I also think that many of the riders need to tone down on their campness at shows it drives me mad and is not very professional !
 
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lol do you really think CH has time to come on this forum ?

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Yes, yes i do, as do several other very well known names, you would be really surprised. Honestly in this case CH was prob just pointed in the direction on this thread by a friend and he rightly chose to reply. He has done exactly the same on the BD forum....
 
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lol do you really think CH has time to come on this forum ? And i agree that the comments to follyfoot6 where harsh ! The rule book is their for a reason..and yes people that are getting unfair treatment should be reported to BD.

I also think that many of the riders need to tone down on their campness at shows it drives me mad and is not very professional !

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why wouldn't he have time? he may be a dressage god but i doubt he rides 24 hours a day.
i find that final remark really offensive, and i'm straight as a die. why the hell should anyone have to tone down any part of their behaviour... do you think those with broad accents should pipe down, feminine women shouldn't wear pink, and so on?! and i hardly think he's "unprofessional", btw. unbelievable.
and no, i'm not a CH hanger-on, fwiw.
 
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