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daveismycat

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or did the 2nd water fence at Bramham look far scarier than the lake at Badminton this year?

I was just watching the video below and got a
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moment watching!! Not that it takes much to give me the collywobbles!
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i think the horses at Bramham are a bit greener so back off more than those at Badders might, but the 2nd water is quite an eyeful, and i think it probably is tougher than the one at Badders was... but then, that's the softest Lake i've ever seen at Badders.
 
In my ignorance, I thought the complex at Bramham was more of a test than that at Badminton, even though the latter is supposed to be the ultimate test. But I'll freely admit I don't know anything about the heights or striding of each.

I've never seen so many people get away with being lucky through the lake at Badminton as I did this year, particularly the last element. It seemed quite far removed from those big upright bounce fences at the Lake in the 90's.

I watched the video of the Bramham complex and thought everything seemed to come up very quickly, and it looked quite unforgiving. I also saw this picture *warns not for the faint hearted* of Faith Cook in a truely awful fall:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...w.html?ITO=1490

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What do I know anyway... I get scared over 2'6"!!!
 
The second water was certainly an eyeful but the second element was a brush fence which was quite forgiving (and a good job too). The step up to the skinny well rode well if taken positively and very badly if taken on a backwards approach (for whatever reason).

Fwiw I saw Faith's fall - it was every bit as scary as it looks in that picture. Probably more so. I do hope she's OK and makes a full recovery.
 
Gosh what is it with the DM and terrible rider-fall pictures? They printed one of Caroline Pratt too in the early edition of the paper, totally tasteless IMO.

As an aside, does anyone know if she was wearing a point-two? Because it *looks* like she has something on under the number bib but over the BP, but it certainly doesn't look to have inflated and supported her neck which I was under the impression was one of the selling points? Of course I may be off the mark, perhaps she isn't wearing one at all?
 
SpottedCAT - I thought exactly the same thing about the point-two! it looks like she is and that it hasnt inflated at the time of the pic, but maybe i am wrong.
 
Johnny there isn't a video on here it's a link to an article with a horrible looking photo.

Interesting about the air jacket Ive just tried googling it but with no success
 
Almost sure she was wearing an air jacket - I can see the attachment on the front of the saddle.

Definitely doesn't look inflated though.

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Sorry J hadn't found video. Don't dare watch if I'm honest I don't think I will sleep!

So then do we rekon the jacket worked or not then?


ETA I cant even find video anyway!
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Well it looks as though first impact was on her head, so the jacket probably wasn't in use until after impact. We will be able to see what Faith Cook says about it after she has recovered from the accident, and whether the jacket helped in anyway.
 
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Well it looks as though first impact was on her head, so the jacket probably wasn't in use until after impact. We will be able to see what Faith Cook says about it after she has recovered from the accident, and whether the jacket helped in anyway.

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It should have inflated by then though if it is to do its job and protect the neck - she is well clear of the saddle. And having taken a similar fall where the initial impact was on my head (without the scary horsefall part) myself if it did inflate in time I can see it providing the support that it has as one of the selling points. If it didn't, then that is one v expensive bit of kit which doen't work in rotationals even when the rider is thrown clear, which is what 90% of the debate on here about them has discussed.

I don't think anyone has debated whether or not they help prevent bruising etc in the event of a normal fall - clearly they would - it's whether they can inflate quickly enough to be of any practical assistance in a rotational which is under debate I think. Also the fact that some people have said that the manufacturers have told them they will protect them from a crush injury in the event of a rotational, which I can't understand the physics behind myself.
 
On the subject of the Point Two and rotational falls- I visited the stand at Bramham to try one and ask about this specifically. The guy on the stand that I spoke to said that they wouldn't be beneficial in a rotational where the horse came down straight on top of the rider. This is because of the forces involved (i.e. a lot more then the tonne of pressure that the jacket can withstand). Equally, if you have a rotational where you never leave the saddle, the jacket won't go off and so will be of no use! However if you had the sort of fall where the horse rolled across the rider, the jacket would be beneficial in that case. I was very impressed by the support the jacket provided when inflated, and am seriously considering getting one as believe they will prevent a lot of injuries- I do however want to find somewhere to try the exo first.
 
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