Jazzy B
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A quick rant, but is it just me, or do some owners seem to have lost the plot where rugging is concerned? Is it because there is so much choice of rug or just a lack of common sense? Augh!!!!
Is it me or has everyone just lost the plot re rugging??
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I agree with you, people seem to think horses will wilt and die if it rains or gets a bit chilly, have seen some horses sweating it out in MW in 19 degree sunshine, use some sense people.....
MerrySherryRider
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Yep, they've lost the plot. It's like a virus, on some yards everyone is afflicted while on others, the disease hasn't managed to take hold. We have a few crazies on our yard but generally, most people adopt a more common sense approach and rug thoughtfully.
It's also spread to the dog world. Remember when a dog rug was unheard of ? Nowadays bizarrely, I even see healthy looking collies wearing rugs. Perhaps the day will come when cows are rugged too
It's also spread to the dog world. Remember when a dog rug was unheard of ? Nowadays bizarrely, I even see healthy looking collies wearing rugs. Perhaps the day will come when cows are rugged too
Luci07
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Shame we can't nominate the most boring/oft repeated award for some posts. This must be the leader.
Deep sigh. Here we go again. Sanctimonious postings when you do NOT always know why owners choose to rug or...what thickness the rugs are.
Deep sigh. Here we go again. Sanctimonious postings when you do NOT always know why owners choose to rug or...what thickness the rugs are.
Montyforever
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The weather has been so difficult to judge recently. My mare was in a fleece Monday night but in a 250g last night! It was 11 degrees Monday night and near freezing last night. She hasn't been out in the field in her m/w yet as its not cold enough during the day. Its so up and down i am just judging on the day!
NZJenny
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Just too many pretty colours. Can't choose.
Princess Rosie
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Hate seeing horses in heavyweights in the bright sunshine at the minute!! Ours are in rain sheets when threatening rain and fly sheets when sunny as the flies are still here! Fleeces of a night when it is getting near freezing but there is no need for anything heavier at the minute. People are humanising their animals (and I pamper mine!) and wrapping them up just because they are cold themselves.
Jazzy B
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I beg to differ I think the shall I or shall I not pts or I hate my yard or am I too big for my horse or why are some posters so bloody rude are far more done to death...
Why bother answering....
canteron
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Wow, why don't you just be direct and not worry about being patronising!!
OP, yep far to many over rugged horses around, poor things.
Tess Love
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Plus there are always new members who like to read these posts you can always skip them.
Prince33Sp4rkle
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as long as every horse is healthy and comfortable, what business is it of yours....
we have one who is a very very cold chap, poor doer, in hard work and fully clipped....he's got a magnet sheet, fleece, no neck HW and a snuggy hood on at night, and a HW full neck and LW under rug on in the day when out.
The old boy is hairy as hell and only in a LW in the day and a LW stable rug at night with a LW turnout on top to stop the stable stains seeping through!
the baby isnt clipped but has no coat really, is in a MW in the day as shivers in the wind and rain even when not really that cold, but out the weather at night is plenty warm enough in a very thin fleece.
horses for courses. none are hot, or cold, or itchy, or sweaty etc.
we have one who is a very very cold chap, poor doer, in hard work and fully clipped....he's got a magnet sheet, fleece, no neck HW and a snuggy hood on at night, and a HW full neck and LW under rug on in the day when out.
The old boy is hairy as hell and only in a LW in the day and a LW stable rug at night with a LW turnout on top to stop the stable stains seeping through!
the baby isnt clipped but has no coat really, is in a MW in the day as shivers in the wind and rain even when not really that cold, but out the weather at night is plenty warm enough in a very thin fleece.
horses for courses. none are hot, or cold, or itchy, or sweaty etc.
AmyMay
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I completely agree.
The weather has been vile with us recently, and I know the horses I deal with have been very grateful for the rugs they've had on.
Goldenstar
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Well it has been a difficult autumn to judge .
I have two horses out both clipped checked them last night at ten pm it was pouring and they where wearing medium weights and where they just just warm enough .the young one was cooler than I would have liked.
I did wonder if I ought to change them that was a good call because it's sunny and warm this morning .
We have been changing rugs all day and have had horses going from fully clipped horses standing in stable with no rug to being in medium weights within a few hours
I do understand how when your horse is living remote from you it's very easy to get it wrong .
I do think you see far more cobs rugged than you used to, in fact you just see more cobs than you used to.
And yes I do see horses I consider over rugged but honestly I have enough stuff going with my own horses to stop me getting het up about it .
On the other hand I do understand that seeing far to hot horses on livery yards must be irritating .
I have two horses out both clipped checked them last night at ten pm it was pouring and they where wearing medium weights and where they just just warm enough .the young one was cooler than I would have liked.
I did wonder if I ought to change them that was a good call because it's sunny and warm this morning .
We have been changing rugs all day and have had horses going from fully clipped horses standing in stable with no rug to being in medium weights within a few hours
I do understand how when your horse is living remote from you it's very easy to get it wrong .
I do think you see far more cobs rugged than you used to, in fact you just see more cobs than you used to.
And yes I do see horses I consider over rugged but honestly I have enough stuff going with my own horses to stop me getting het up about it .
On the other hand I do understand that seeing far to hot horses on livery yards must be irritating .
Mitchyden
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If it bothers you that much then don't read it!!
catkin
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If everyone appears to have lost the plot about rugging then they also appear to have lost the plot about feeding, bitting, clipping, exercise, uncle-tom-cobbley-and-all - just about anything we do with our horses will be disapproved of by someone, the horseworld has been ever thus.............
Without knowing the full circumstances and reasons it's difficult to say whether things are right and wrong. If you looked over my fence at the moment you would see a shetland with a rug on - Shock Horror I know - but there are a couple of extremely good reasons for it. if you looked over the same fence this afternoon the chances are that the same pony will not be wearing rugs (unless there's a fierce wet storm brewing) - why? because the ponies will be in a different paddock, with different topography and availability of shelter. It's the same for everyone else too.
Without knowing the full circumstances and reasons it's difficult to say whether things are right and wrong. If you looked over my fence at the moment you would see a shetland with a rug on - Shock Horror I know - but there are a couple of extremely good reasons for it. if you looked over the same fence this afternoon the chances are that the same pony will not be wearing rugs (unless there's a fierce wet storm brewing) - why? because the ponies will be in a different paddock, with different topography and availability of shelter. It's the same for everyone else too.
MS123
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Completely agree! Why it's someone else's business I'll never know!
Auslander
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It wouldn't be autumn without a rugging post (or 17).
Mine are in MW's with neck covers as of yesterday. None of them are clipped, but yesterday, they were cold. If they're too hot, I shall put their lightweights back on, and if we have another warm spell, they will be naked. I go by what my horses need. They're old, and they're precious to me - they get what they need, when they need it.
Mine are in MW's with neck covers as of yesterday. None of them are clipped, but yesterday, they were cold. If they're too hot, I shall put their lightweights back on, and if we have another warm spell, they will be naked. I go by what my horses need. They're old, and they're precious to me - they get what they need, when they need it.
NU ABO
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I'm not quite sure why people seem to think it's any of their business how other people rug their horses!
You probably think I over-rug mine at the moment as he's currently out in in a full-neck MW and it's sunny outside. Still a bitter chill to the air at no more than 5 degrees this morning. Admittedly, yes, he was a little warm to the touch and he might well have wanted to have the whole thing off and go for a roll in the mud! However, he's completely clipped and I know that later today there's a high chance it could get rainy and windy and while I'm stuck in an office 20 minutes away from the field, I'd rather guarantee that he remains warm and dry.
When the weather drops again to consistently below freezing he's got his HW to change into.
My youngster is also out in his no neck MW because in the same respect I want that guarantee of warmth and dryness when the weather is being so changeable right now.
On the bright side, my mum will go and check on them after she finishes work at about midday and if they are very warm and look a bit miserable in their rugs, she'll take them out of them.
You probably think I over-rug mine at the moment as he's currently out in in a full-neck MW and it's sunny outside. Still a bitter chill to the air at no more than 5 degrees this morning. Admittedly, yes, he was a little warm to the touch and he might well have wanted to have the whole thing off and go for a roll in the mud! However, he's completely clipped and I know that later today there's a high chance it could get rainy and windy and while I'm stuck in an office 20 minutes away from the field, I'd rather guarantee that he remains warm and dry.
When the weather drops again to consistently below freezing he's got his HW to change into.
My youngster is also out in his no neck MW because in the same respect I want that guarantee of warmth and dryness when the weather is being so changeable right now.
On the bright side, my mum will go and check on them after she finishes work at about midday and if they are very warm and look a bit miserable in their rugs, she'll take them out of them.
southerncomfort
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I try not to judge others. There is field next to mine and one of the horses has had a thick rug on for a couple of weeks now even on warmer days. Now other people might think that's wrong, however I happen to know that it's an old horse with Cushings and a full clip. These are things that the average passer-by just couldn't see and wouldn't know.
I'm lucky in that I can usually get to the field whenever I need to so can change rugs several times a day if needed but I understand that not everyone has that luxury.
For what it's worth my oldie with cushings is in a MW today, the welsh cob is in a LW and the younger welsh cob x is in nothing but her woolies. Horse for courses.
I'm lucky in that I can usually get to the field whenever I need to so can change rugs several times a day if needed but I understand that not everyone has that luxury.
For what it's worth my oldie with cushings is in a MW today, the welsh cob is in a LW and the younger welsh cob x is in nothing but her woolies. Horse for courses.
oldie48
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I just think we are lucky to have the choice of lightweight, breathable, quick to dry, rugs. who would want to go back to canvas and jute. yes of course some people over rug but many of us don't.there's nothing I like to see more than my horses out without rugs and grooming each other, like they did at the weekend, but yesterday they were out in MW rugs. This weather doesn't make it easy to decide what to use and I pity those who have to make the decision at 06.00 in the morning knowing they won't be back until tea time or later!
Jazzy B
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As I keep my horses on my own and have little to do with the outside horse world, I can confirm I don't interfere what other people choose to rug their horses in... I drive past a horse on the way to work which when it was 17 degrees last week was rugged up with a neck and today when it was 0 was naked... Clearly in this case some common sense should prevail. Note to self... Wind neck in.
MotherOfChickens
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^^ what she said
also awaits quoting of fake scientific report that tells us rugging is cruel..
lottiepony
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My 2 are still naked, both unclipped out 24/7. Not worried about fat pony but struggling to resist the urge to rug my girl but she's yet to feel cold so I'm hanging on in there!
HaffiesRock
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I don't think this is aimed at some of the posters on here. I believe it is aimed at the people, like a lady on my livery yard, who currently has a lightweight full neck and a medium weight without neck on her Section D and has done for at least 5 or 6 weeks! Her heavyweight, very well feathered cob is also in 2 rugs. Now I know this lady and the horses and I know that neither are clipped, both are fit and well and both must be massively uncomfortable when the temperature has been in the early 20's with bright sunshine. She only comes up once a day, chucks them some hay and leaves. I have never once seen her check the horses temperature or even remove the rug to check underneath. These are the people who grate on me as they just cannot be bothered. I would only ever comment on someones horse if I know the facts.
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MerrySherryRider
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Personally, I do feel it's my business. If a horse on my yard is left without water, I'd interfere and give the animal a drink.
If a horse is soaking wet with sweat under a heavy rug, I'd change it to a lighter one or a fleece and text/call the owner to let them know. Not rocket science.
If a horse is soaking wet with sweat under a heavy rug, I'd change it to a lighter one or a fleece and text/call the owner to let them know. Not rocket science.
DD265
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I think rugging is very tough at the moment! I feel for those on DIY working long days - as my boy is on full livery I know that should there be a drastic weather change during the day YO will sort him out.
My lad is in a 100g during the day - it does have a neck but I've taken that off the last couple of days with it being dry. Struggling a little at night though - he's wearing a fleece or I have a 150g stable rug. He's borderline I think so leaving it up to YO when he does the late feeds.
My lad is in a 100g during the day - it does have a neck but I've taken that off the last couple of days with it being dry. Struggling a little at night though - he's wearing a fleece or I have a 150g stable rug. He's borderline I think so leaving it up to YO when he does the late feeds.
Undecided
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My horse is at home under the care of a very good and very knowledgeable friend. My non horsey mother feels the need to tell them to put mediums on because it's a bit chillly and because she's cold, not the horse. Said horse is unclipped and on field rest with hay and hard feed... Winds me up but as I'm so far away I can't do much except whip them off once I'm home to stop him ripping them in half because he's clearly hot.
glamourpuss
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So the thread title is 'is it just me or has EVERYONE lost the plot'
I can categorically state that it is just you. From what I see in the horse world the majority of horse owners know their horses better than any passing random & try their best to rug their horses to keep them comfortable & happy.
Sometimes people make choices that personally I wouldn't (this is with all aspects of horse care not just rugging!) but they make them because they know their animal & how they wish to keep them better than I.
Sometimes, just sometimes they [gasp] make a mistake. They put a warm rug on & the sun comes out so the next day they leave unrugged & the temperature barely climbs above zero. Does this mean they have lost the plot or they are a crap owner.....no, it just means they are human & liable to error!
I keep 3 of my horses at home, all are not clipped & living out at the moment. Today one of them is wearing a HW rug. Before you all gasp & condemn me to burn in hell with all the other over ruggers in the land of 'lost the plot' I can fully justify my reasons.
1) this is an incredibly poor doer who can literally drop weight over night. I'll be buggered if I'm going to spend all my money on the best hay/Haylage & feed I can buy for him to shiver off the calories.
2) He is a cold horse. He hardly grows a coat & always requires more rugging than any of my others
3) He likes to be warm. And yes I do know that. If he's cold he acts distressed in the field. He will charge along the fence line, pace at the gate, neigh constantly. But if he is warm then he is happy to stay out.
Whilst HHO wouldn't be the same without a few hundred over rugging threads condemning others for their horse keeping choices I agree with those who say it does get a little tiresome.
I can categorically state that it is just you. From what I see in the horse world the majority of horse owners know their horses better than any passing random & try their best to rug their horses to keep them comfortable & happy.
Sometimes people make choices that personally I wouldn't (this is with all aspects of horse care not just rugging!) but they make them because they know their animal & how they wish to keep them better than I.
Sometimes, just sometimes they [gasp] make a mistake. They put a warm rug on & the sun comes out so the next day they leave unrugged & the temperature barely climbs above zero. Does this mean they have lost the plot or they are a crap owner.....no, it just means they are human & liable to error!
I keep 3 of my horses at home, all are not clipped & living out at the moment. Today one of them is wearing a HW rug. Before you all gasp & condemn me to burn in hell with all the other over ruggers in the land of 'lost the plot' I can fully justify my reasons.
1) this is an incredibly poor doer who can literally drop weight over night. I'll be buggered if I'm going to spend all my money on the best hay/Haylage & feed I can buy for him to shiver off the calories.
2) He is a cold horse. He hardly grows a coat & always requires more rugging than any of my others
3) He likes to be warm. And yes I do know that. If he's cold he acts distressed in the field. He will charge along the fence line, pace at the gate, neigh constantly. But if he is warm then he is happy to stay out.
Whilst HHO wouldn't be the same without a few hundred over rugging threads condemning others for their horse keeping choices I agree with those who say it does get a little tiresome.
glamourpuss
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Also if I wasn't spending all my money on rugs what would I spend it on? Drugs, booze, rock & roll lifestyle......& finally rehab?
You might see an over rugged horse, I see me stopping myself from a debauch lifestyle stripping our modern world of morality & lining the pockets of drug barons
You might see an over rugged horse, I see me stopping myself from a debauch lifestyle stripping our modern world of morality & lining the pockets of drug barons
smurfywurf
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My section a is out unclipped in his no fill turnout and that's only if it rains so his back is dry for schooling in the evening, if it's sunny or dry he's rugless (doesn't roll in the field thank god, he's a grey) ..... People on our yard have them all wrapped up unclipped and they're freezing at night when they're stood in with cold sweat, or they've given them a full clip and not rugged at all..... That's a case of No common sense what so ever
On the other hand we have an old boy with cushings who is rugged up to the eyeballs because he really reels the cold and he can't eat hay, his teeth are gappy so he's not eating his feed too well and his owner is worried about him losing weight and condition.
Our cob has a rug on all year round when he's in, only a light cooler in the summer but if he's in without a rug on he doesnt realise he's staying in and will climb over the door and trash everything. Put his rug on and he's as quiet as a lamb all night.
Every horse has different needs and backgrounds so no not everyone has lost the plot, just the odd few.
On the other hand we have an old boy with cushings who is rugged up to the eyeballs because he really reels the cold and he can't eat hay, his teeth are gappy so he's not eating his feed too well and his owner is worried about him losing weight and condition.
Our cob has a rug on all year round when he's in, only a light cooler in the summer but if he's in without a rug on he doesnt realise he's staying in and will climb over the door and trash everything. Put his rug on and he's as quiet as a lamb all night.
Every horse has different needs and backgrounds so no not everyone has lost the plot, just the odd few.
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