Is it so unreasonable to as "your vet" to foot your/their bill! rant!

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It seems a family of scuzz, who have bred from what looks like an old and not so good specimen of staffy:rolleyes: and ran into problems at time of whelp "holds breath" and proceeded to slate the vet in a paper because it was pts when they could not afford the bill:mad:, they claim the vets would not let them take the dog away "translated to" they had no referal vet so te vet refused removal from the surgery and rightly so.
Oh and the article includes a pic of the badly done by kids "vets fault of course" not their parents for trying to profit from their family pet and not being able to afford to get it the help it needed "prob = the profit of the whole litter!! but they also "holds breath again" hold up their remaining badly bred staff in their arms with mammaries bigger than mine:rolleyes:

And the moral of the story is..........:rolleyes:

Rant over!
 
But I thought all veterinarians loved animals and sort of, you know, didn't have it as a work, without more like a free service for animals in need. :confused:

Besides, to reproduce yourself is natural and in the wild there is never any problems, so how could the owners possibly have been able to contemplate that the puppies wouldn't just bounce out like popcorn? :rolleyes:

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I know that just being alive is dangerous and I also know, that there is no guarantee that whelping will go smoothly but since it hopefully shouldn't come as a surprise, that your bitch is expecting a litter, you should have had the opportunity to make adequate preparations, including making sure that you have money and insurance that can pay for possible acute treatments, in case it is needed.

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Not to mention, that the best place to start, is making sure that your brood bitch is of suitable age and in suitable condition, before you mate her! Things can go wrong anyway, there is no need, to add factors that decrease the odds of a successful birth.

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Gah, one of the reasons we stopped breeding, you can have the perfect dog, the perfect bitch, a battery of health tests, the homes lined up, all the prep work in the world and something can still go wrong.

My dear old Nan always taught me, if you can't afford something, don't have it, it's served me well through the years.

Isn't the PDSA available any more?
 
CaveCanem said:
Gah, one of the reasons we stopped breeding, you can have the perfect dog, the perfect bitch, a battery of health tests, the homes lined up, all the prep work in the world and something can still go wrong.

My dear old Nan always taught me, if you can't afford something, don't have it, it's served me well through the years.

Isn't the PDSA available any more?
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You have to be recieving council tax or housing benefit to use the PDSA, and they now have a breeding form in place, so if you try to return you can no longer or should no longer be treatd to breeding, it's not really under the scope of emergency treatment is it?as it can be prevented unlike a # repair or bloat and should be, and scrounging feckers should not be breeding and blagging free C sections from a charity.
Not a rant at u there CC:rolleyes::D
Im agreeing with ya nan:D
 
Stupid stupid people. Do you have a link to the story? I bet there are people agreeing with the poor upset numpties that the vet should have done it for free even though there was no way on earth that they would ever have been paid.
 
Well done to the vets for not letting them take the poor bitch away. I hope they get some support for doing the right thing by the poor bitch, I suppose it would be too much to hope the RSPCA would check out the staffy still with the idiots.
 
Oh lord I jsut spied they "shop around to compare prices" WTF, they are all the same prices.. dill butt:rolleyes: it's not a new pair of shoes or a new car u are investing in........give me strength!.
So basically they had not vet ready for a referal, they just wanted to take the dog away, and shop around, whilst she struggles to whelp:(
 
Well to be honest I am not sure I agree here. If I understand this right this is a dog that needed emergency caesarian and the only alternative was PTS. The owners could not afford the caesarian and the vet would not do it for free or on a payment plan.

While I understand the economic necessities in running a vet practice, all the vet practices I have ever been a customer of have done some work for free to help people in difficult circumstances. Whether the bitch should have been bred from or not seems a bit irrelevant to the situation to be honest. She was bred from and needed vet attention.

Would it not have been possible for the vets to give the animal the help it needed on welfare grounds and then agree a payment plan with the owners or sue them for the outstanding bill? If the vets felt they could not pay for the treatment themselves or recover the cost from the owners, I am not sure why they did not return the dog to the owners, but perhaps I am not understanding something here?
 
There will always be other opinion, it does state they could not come to an agreement, so I will hazard at a guess they where offered an option and refused what was offered, vets will not put an animal to sleep lightly, this will be regular occurance where money grabbers twist at the fact they have to actualy pay for a service they have recieved, and if vets started to go ahead with an op then recover costs, it would cost a fortune they would have to pay for the service "not cheap" or hand the whole debt over" so make a huge loss "how can you keep a business going and pay staff at that rate?, and payment plans are rarely ever kept or the client seen again, these clients who where meant to return to pay their bill and never did are the reason a vet will demand a down payment.
My mam has offered plenty of payment plans and put alot of clients from her vets bills onto her rescue as they could not afford treatment, and they fecked off and never returned, she wont ever do it agan!
The dog was treat within guid lines, it's suffering ended because of it's irrisponsible owners.

The only way the vet would refuse an animal being transported is
(a) if was deemed unfit to travel
(b) There is no referal vet, so the client is likely to take the animal home and it will die in agony.
I suspect the latter.
 
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There is no doubt more to the story than the paper is reporting. I am sure generally vets would happily work out a payment plan, or even possibly operate and spay the bitch and find her a home, although sadly there are probably more than enough staffies up for rehoming. Its possible the vets said they would spay while doing the caesar and owners didn't want that option, which is why the wanted to take the bitch away.
 
I can imagine that the bitch was straining for some time before they even saught veterinary attention. Who knows what the full story is? Perhaps the owners were not willing to give the dog up and so the vets knew that they would continue to breed from the poor thing. I have been in the position before that people have called up for a price on a c section and when told the range (from a low cost clinic) and told that it was common practice to spay at the same time they have said that they would just do it at home (WTF???) and hung up!! Maybe this was the situation at the time and the Vets were standing up for the animal's right to not be chopped up on the kitchen table? Seriously, it would be the last option at any vets that I know of to PTS a pregnant bitch of any sort and I think in this situation you can probably say that they did the right thing.
 
I know the vets in question, they are a top quality vets, I had my whippets leg fixed there by the specialist orthopedic vet, I paid the same price as they where quoted for the C section and got 1st class care, I totally get you there Farrierlover it peeves me when clients at work will not give permission to spay during a C section, even though it's safer for the dog, but these type of people dont hold the dogs in the highest of regard just their money making ability:rolleyes:
The vet will most certainly not have taken the decision lightly and I have no doubt they where offered a payment plan which would have been so much up front and they said "no" the vet offered emergency care and that was to be pts, sady for the dog it ended up with a very selfish and greedy owner.
Just to add there are many a dog pts because the owner cannot afford the vet bll and the vet can not step in and safe them all, that would be the job of rescue centre not a vet practice, there has to be a line drawn surely? It jsut rather sickening for people to blame others for their own demise.
 
The line in one of the comments underneath 'if you can't afford the vet, you can't afford the pet' really says it all here.

Reading between the lines of the emotive, 'devoid of any useful fact' reporting by The Daily Fail, I think the vet actually acted very responsibly in what must have been a fairly horrible situation. Not wishing to cast aspersions but I really don't think anyone breeding Staffies in the current climate could be termed 'a responsible owner' - the rescue centres, breed specific and otherwise are simply drowning with them. As to some of the comments saying how awful it was that the dog and unborn puppies suffered by being PTS and the vet should be struck off - actually the dog and her puppies wouldn't have suffered at all by being PTS.

BUT, how much would she have suffered if the vet hadn't abided by his duty of care to the dog and allowed the owners to take her away and trawl the streets until they 'found the best deal'... Considerably I think...
 
You need a specific (and rather expensive) insurance to cover breeding difficulties and in this case, if the bitch was particularly elderly, it may not even have been covered. Sadly, Vets are not charities and what would they want with a pregnant staffie in need of a section? Most Vets and nurses I know are already overrun at home with dodgy/lame/one eyed fuglys!
 
Jake10 said:
Could they have signed the dog over and did they not even have insurance? :eek:
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To be honest it's not the norm for vets to take dogs on to rehome, I think my mams vets do cos there is someone who has a rescue, the dog looked very old to me by the pic in the paper and staffs do not rehome easily, also insurance does not cover you for breeding, as it's preventable, no doubt insurance will prefer the dog be neutered.
 
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