Is it unusual to see certain colours on "big" horses??

starsky said:
One of mine is a 16.2hh strawberry roan. I have never seen another one like him. He doesn't compete anymore, but when he did lots of people used to recognise him from show to show....

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I was going to add I have never seen a 'horse size' strawberry roan. I love strawberry roan but I think thats because it reminds me of an old section c I had, he really was the perfect little pony and would often go 'pink' in the summer!
 
lillith said:
In the UK more so - most of the 'unusual' colours here, roan, dun, palomino, buckskin ect are most common in the pony breeds. In the US quarter horses carry cream, dun and roan so part bred and pure bred QH are often more colourful, I believe Morgans and saddlebreds also come in palomino and buckskin though I am not so certain about roan and dun. There are some TB and warmbloods now that carry cream though, Guarunteed Gold is a cremello TB who is now apparently standing at Goldfields stud in Scotland. He will guarantee (oddly enough) either palomino, buckskin, smoky black, cremello, perlino or smoky cream offspring depending on the colour of the mare.
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The PRE also carries cream, dun, rabbicano and pearl
 
RE quarter horses. Here is a classic champagne QH and his amber champagne offspring. A proper rare colour - I've only ever seen two (the ones pictured which used to live down the road).

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Rosie041390 said:
I like Blue & White :) I have only ever seen one 'big' one, he was 17.2hh. He was advertised on H&H last summer. Unfortunatley my budget was £2k and he was nearly 3x that! :rolleyes:

The lady I bought my boy from bred a palamino last summer, he was by this lovely chap http://www.solaris-sport-horses.co.uk/cremello_warmblood_stallion.shtml and out of a Chestnut TB. He is supposed to make 16hh+ :D
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A blue and white is a coloured horse carrying the grey gene, sadly they end up just as grey as solid coloured horses.
 
Are single creams (as in smokey black, palomino and buckskin) unusual now though? I've seen more recently than I used to. With the double cream dilute Warmblood stallions available, bigger horses with that gene are around. As cream is in the Welsh Cob population, I also see quite a few large Welsh X's with it too.

One of the things that I have noticed however is a few horses (that I have met out and about) that have a rare colour but the owner doesn't know. EG I once met a lovely silver bay that the owner called 'chestnut'. I'm sure that a user on HHO has a larger silver bay too.
 
Faracat said:
Are single creams (as in smokey black, palomino and buckskin) unusual now though? I've seen more recently than I used to. With the double cream dilute Warmblood stallions available, bigger horses with that gene are around. As cream is in the Welsh Cob population, I also see quite a few large Welsh X's with it too.

One of the things that I have noticed however is a few horses (that I have met out and about) that have a rare colour but the owner doesn't know. EG I once met a lovely silver bay that the owner called 'chestnut'. I'm sure that a user on HHO has a larger silver bay too.
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All the cream dilutes are starting to show up in the PRE now that all colours have been allowed into the stud books, there are a LOT of smokey blacks too, previously they were just registered as black or negra.

I once met a Rumanian Warmblood who was a silver palomino, an amazing colour, his main and tail looked palest blue as did his white socks, his coat was bright gold - sadly his conformation was shot to hell though but they were breeding for colour (something I don't believe in btw), he has a half brother who was buckskin with the same silver gene, however, in the buckskin it only showed up through his lilac skin. Fascinating :)
 
I love all the photos on here... such stunning horses

Thought I would add a pic of my boy he's 16.2hh Czech warmblood... and I think he's a bit of a looker :) although I am obvioulsy biased!

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lillith said:
Guarunteed Gold is a cremello TB who is now apparently standing at Goldfields stud in Scotland. He will guarantee (oddly enough) either palomino, buckskin, smoky black, cremello, perlino or smoky cream offspring depending on the colour of the mare.
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:eek: Really? I thought he was still just down the road from me.

http://www.equine.com/stallions-at-stud/stallion-ad-1045631.html

http://www.truecoloursfarm.com/horsepage.php?id=1

Breeding Availability : Jan 2012 to Jan 2012

Location: Wilsonville, Ontario, Canada
 
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starsky said:
One of mine is a 16.2hh strawberry roan. I have never seen another one like him. He doesn't compete anymore, but when he did lots of people used to recognise him from show to show....

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That looks more like a type of appy to me. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but don't true roans have base coloured (as in chestnut, bay and black) legs, heads, manes and tails?
 
Enfys said:
:eek: Really? I thought he was still just down the road from me.

http://www.equine.com/stallions-at-stud/stallion-ad-1045631.html

http://www.truecoloursfarm.com/horsepage.php?id=1

Breeding Availability : Jan 2012 to Jan 2012

Location: Wilsonville, Ontario, Canada
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He is Enfys.
The sale fell through, originally it was GG, Remember My Name (i think) and maybe some mares being sold, but in the end only RMN was sold, dunno if it was to goldfields though.
Unfortunately he died in 2011 I think, and never left NA.
 
Pie's mum: your horse prob isn't true blue and white (i.e grey and white) then. True grey's WILL lighten as they get older (sadly:() although some are much slower than others. He's poss roan and white? You still get every possible solid colour base with skewbalds.
 
Kallibear said:
I suppose it's because a) the unusual colours come from ponies originally and b) many are recessive, making them less likely to be passed on than a 'normal' colour. Cross two palamino's and you've only got 25% change of getting another palamino (i think:o)

That and coloured horse (patchy and unusual) where thought of as 'common' until not that many years ago, so people (esp those who breed big horses for 'sports') didn't bred them. Coloured are becoming more common nowadays and I expect the more unusual colours to become so too eventually.

Measles: PLEASE can I have your horse. I soooo badly want a big dun!
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The Tobiano Origins are the other way round they were the rich mans horse and the landed gentry they were fence jumped by Gypsys and traverlers to gain the colour and many breed societys then banned the colour
if you visit many country houses you will see the rich could only afford works of art and the prized coloured horses were painted and as these paintings demonstrate the horses are quiet well bred not heavy or course.
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Kallibear said:
Pie's mum: your horse prob isn't true blue and white (i.e grey and white) then. True grey's WILL lighten as they get older (sadly:() although some are much slower than others. He's poss roan and white? You still get every possible solid colour base with skewbalds.
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Aha that would explain it - his patches are blue roan
 
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