Is Otis Ferry fox hunting's worst enemy?

Methinks Mr Woolard is getting a taste of the pro hunting style of attack.... in a pack of course. Only way they know how to operate. Brave in numbers...cowards alone.
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sorry its the other way around sabs/antis allways are in numbers to attack hunt supporters
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My heart bleeds for them,poor hunters, on horseback being attacked by sabs. I'm sure they are scared to death :grin: Would give them a chance to have a taste of there own medicine which they are quite happy to dole out. Hunters are by nature aggressive.
 
..... One can always choose to be a conscientious objector. War is a very dirty thing .....

Yes, war is dirty but sadly it is a fact of life that wars happen.
In my opinion COs are gutless cowards who leave the defence of their country to those brave enough to do so, yet still reap the same benefits afterwards.
As JG says, we could well be speaking Kraut, etc, etc if it were not for those who were willing to put their lives on the line in WWI and WWII.
Three of my mother's brothers were killed in WWII.
I totally support our Forces in Afghanistan but they should never have been sent out there in the first place considering the attitude of The MOD and the lack of equipment.
One lives in hope that some day, someone will have the balls to try Tony Blair for "war crimes" - all the evidence is there.
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Funnily enough Mr Woof, not everyone feels the need to kill, maim or injure others, soldiers are just gun fodder for the polititians who make the wars. Individuals have a choice not to have a knee jerk reaction and act in packs. And we all know what great danger we are in ....sorry, that was according to T. Blair.
This topic seems to have been hijacked from pro hunting to pro war, a lot of aggression out there!
 
Could you not, please, just have some respect for those of our country-men/women who have lost their lives whilst fighting in wars on behalf of all us here in GB?
YOU are one of those who still reap the benefits in the aftermath - and very obviously, do not appreciate their sacrifice one iota.
There are families, widows and young children who have been left absolutely bereft from the loss of a very brave person, fighting on our and YOUR behalf.
You should be thoroughly ashamed of yourself for the comments you have made.
 
There is a difference between pro-armed forces and pro-war. I am proud to have many friends serving in various Corps and Regiments of the British Army, they go out there to do the job that they are employed to do and do it to the best of their ability. It is not their place to question the morals of such action other than within the Geneva Convention.

There is a hell of a lot of hearts and minds work going on providing infrastructure, medical care, veterinary advice and farming knowledge so I find your comments about maiming and injuring others offensive in the extreme.
 
Does your IT teacher realise you are posting on forums and not doing your assignments!? Do you have anything worthwhile to contribute to this debate forum or are you going to continue to bore us with pointless and unfounded statements??
 
Could you not, please, just have some respect for those of our country-men/women who have lost their lives whilst fighting in wars on behalf of all us here in GB?
YOU are one of those who still reap the benefits in the aftermath - and very obviously, do not appreciate their sacrifice one iota.
There are families, widows and young children who have been left absolutely bereft from the loss of a very brave person, fighting on our and YOUR behalf.
You should be thoroughly ashamed of yourself for the comments you have made.
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Firstly I have the courage of my convictions and feel no need whatsoever to be ashamed of any comments I make. I have not been derogatory in anyway, just stating my opinion as you have yours.
I am sorry Mr Woof,I appreciate your feelings and I feel great sorrow for those who have lost loved ones...likewise I have great sorrow for the innocent women and children who are killed and injured in their own homeland and have to suffer the fighting each and every day. Are they any less human? do they suffer and bleed less? That is precisely why I am very anti war.
I didn't intend to get involved in this topic and have said enough now. The topic was Otis Ferry's crass stupidity.
 
There is a difference between pro-armed forces and pro-war. I am proud to have many friends serving in various Corps and Regiments of the British Army, they go out there to do the job that they are employed to do and do it to the best of their ability. It is not their place to question the morals of such action other than within the Geneva Convention.

There is a hell of a lot of hearts and minds work going on providing infrastructure, medical care, veterinary advice and farming knowledge so I find your comments about maiming and injuring others offensive in the extreme.
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Why on earth should my comments about maiming others be offensive... is that not the purpose of a soldier ,....to kill and maim.Is that not what they are taught...warfare? that they should die practicing those skills is what. war. is .about.
 
regarding Fuffy, i find it rather odd that it says that it worked for the MFH of the Heythrop many years ago,( maybe in Ronnie Wallaces time) but now is so anti!! things dont stack up somehow- if this is so, we could be friends instead of proverbial enemies as i worked myself looking after Heythrop hunters back in the 70s. pity the way things turn out-
 
i knew Col Chamberayne and his son,how could you work with hunters and be anti? i'm holding out an olive branch here if only you would accept it- surely you rode out second horse for the Colonel? Fuffy, i am only human the same as everyone else, just with different opinions, i'll accept it if you dont wish to accept my white flag as there will be nothing more i can do,but surely its better to agree to disagree?
 
I never wished to hunt and made that clear,I just worked as a groom and exercised etc. The horses don't choose to hunt,they are prey animals how can I resent them? It was a good job, good food! and I learned a lot. He ran his yard beautifully. I was offered but never rode to hounds.
I am glad that you have become more peaceable, one has no need to fight or be aggressive due to differing points of veiw.
I am a pacifist but will stand my ground if attacked!!
 
ok, your post is acceptable- why the need for the last comment? i will also stand my ground if attacked and you did call me some derogatory things, so it wasn't all one sided! by the way, Col Chamberlayne wasn't an MFH in the 60s- they were Lord Dulverton, followed by Mr.Marsh( lovely chap) and thenRonnie Wallace. so it appears that my truce is not to be reciprocated, fair enough, i cant say i didn't try.( the welsh hills are a wonderful place to live by the way.)
 
ok, your post is acceptable- why the need for the last comment? i will also stand my ground if attacked and you did call me some derogatory things, so it wasn't all one sided! by the way, Col Chamberlayne wasn't an MFH in the 60s- they were Lord Dulverton, followed by Mr.Marsh( lovely chap) and thenRonnie Wallace. so it appears that my truce is not to be reciprocated, fair enough, i cant say i didn't try.( the welsh hills are a wonderful place to live by the way.)
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I did think your post a little suspect..but gave you the benefit of the doubt... what a waste of time you are. YAWN.........
 
thank you!! what a vindictive 61 year old you are!you gave me no benefit of any doubt- your words are cruel to say the least. as i said ive tried to make peace with you but no, you are right and i am wrong, everytime. makes me feel so good that someone in their later years cannot mellow, i am already suffering from depression being now stuck in a wheelchair with a progressive disease that cannot be diagnosed, and all i get is a vengeful woman who cannot bear to bury the hatchet. i'm not lookingfor sympathy, in case i get accused of that too, but i see no reason on carrying on tit for tat nonsense, so just dont bother answering me again, being as i am so boring anyway!!
 
No body as aggressive as you is suffering from depression nor has the slightest idea of what true depression is. You should think yourself lucky you are not. Sure you are depressed, a different thing altogether,we all have our crosses to bear and I am truly sorry to hear of your predicament..........if it is true. Just try to be peaceable ....do! You are your own worst enemy.
 
i am amazed at your vindictiveness, i am not one for making up stories, have been a perfectly healthy woman until 2006, i have now lost use of my right leg and the progression is affecting my right arm. i feel insulted that you yhink i am making this up, i have driven my wonderful mad by my constant crying at absolutely nothing so i am on anti depressants which help. i appreciate the fact your partner is far from well,but we all have our different problems- i am told this could be cortico basal degeneration which eventually will be fatal-as i have always been a free, independant spirit i find this so hard. i now have the horses i always wanted, but can only see them from the window, never mind groom and ride them. i did ask you not to write to me again but you have to turn the screw just a bit tighter dont you!! so, PLEASE just leave me alone now cos you obviously can't stand me so why bother-
 
Fuffy - just back off Salimali please.
Surely you can do something else with your free time rather than batter someone who has, actually, been battered more than enough - both in real life and on here.
STOP IT NOW - PLEASE.
 
Mr Woof please!!!who rattled your cage?? there is no need for ANYONE to take the slightest notice of anyones post and THEN complain! No ones arm has been twisted has it?? it does take two and has ben an amusing diversion. Salimali will be SO bored now! If any battering has gone on I think you will find the aggression and abuse has come from her......not me! We are all entitled to our own opinion without the pack mentality clicking in ...
surely... free speech as long as its yours I guess eh Mr Woof?LOL!
 
don't see the sense in it myself...like beating your head against a brick wall.
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Don't knock it until you've tried it, and I suggest you try it very soon.

Besides for someone as terminally moronic and as unpleasant as yourself it should prove to be a worthwhile way of using up your time. With the added bonus that it might knock some sense into you.

A winning combination if there ever was one.
 
Sorry to butt in ,amidst all the mud slinging...I think Otis is just very passionate about hunting his hounds ,a lot of huntsman are ,and if he comes over daft to some..then you don`t understand the devotion a pack of hounds engenders , and words can run away talking about a passion. As for CP..not found wounded foxes?? Where have YOU been? The first one I found was a four month cub,still up and moving,but being eaten alive by maggots in a bullet wound near his anus,he had to be PTS by the vet who was the then Hon Sec of the Surrey Union. I was told that it would have taken that cub another ten days at least to die. The next one was a vixen,apparently sunning herself on our field bank,but her reactions were not as sharp as they should have been, I was able to catch her (VERY ABNORMAL) and put her in an old henhouse overnight.By next morning she had died,a PM showed nothing in her stomach and two smashed front middle digits from probably a gin. The last one was still alive with a snare wire tight `round it`s middle..hounds put that one out of his misery. Sing from the same sheet please..and roll on the repeal.
 
I think that everyone needs to give the guy a break. Professional huntsman or not is irrelevant, he's as passionate about hunting as we all are. His posh accent, smart school and priveleged lifestyle are perhaps something he curses as much as we do, lets face it, his upbringing is out of his control and it would be unfair to suggest he is damaging hunting further. He is a perfect person to get hunting proper into the media and if half the hunting supporters in the country had the antis harassing them as much as some hunt staff have they might be forgiven for blowing their top every now and again.
 
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