Is she or isn't she? (sorry it's long and lots of piccies)

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Long story, but I will try to keep it brief.... Last June I bought a horse that had been covered the previous month and hadn't returned. She hadn't been scanned so wasn't confirmed in foal when I bought her.... I wasn't too worried whether she was in foal or not as she was only a 2 yr old.

In September I had her scanned and my vet rooted around in there for about half an hour and couldn't find anything - so she was not in foal. I kept her over the winter and in January decided to sell her. I had my vet out again at the time for Jabs and she looked her over and said she was 100% sure that the filly was not in foal. Two weeks after this visit I sold her.

Last night I had a phone call from her new owner, expressing concerns that the mare may indeed be in foal as she had noticed some changes. She said that she doesn't have a belly at all but she has started bagging up.

If she IS in foal, her due date is 8th April, so she would have roughly 4 weeks to go....

So, being the honest horse person that I am, offered her a full refund and I went and collected her today (3.5 hours drive each way!).

She doesn't have much of a belly at all, so not obviously in foal, however her bum has disappeared (
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) and her boobies are not the boobies I sold her with (where did those boobies come from? (see pics below).

I took these pictures when we got home tonight - please excuse the state of her - this is the condition I picked her up in and she had had a long journey and was absolutely filthy!

I have already arranged for my vet to visit tomorrow afternoon to do a manual PD.... but would anyone like to take a guess? Yes or no?
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You want to look from the back and see if the bulge is more one side than the other. She looks a big roomy mare and it is amazing how some mares carry even a large foal and don't show any signs.
 
Bit hard to tell- some mares can be very good at hiding foalies! She looks like she could be, but that she has longer than 4 weeks to go (if that makes any sense).

Sorry, not much help but wanted to say she is lovely
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This brings back memories! I bought a mare, nobody realising she was pregnant and she just looked a little fat round the belly (put that down to grass). She bagged up when I bought her and 3 weeks later foalie was born! Complete surprise to previous owners but we worked it out that they had bought her just after she would have conceived. Looking at her you would never have believed she was pregnant. Mind you they never offered to have her back when I rang them to voice my concerns when she bagged up, LOL.
 
I wasn't going to post this one as her back end was absolutely disgustingly filthy
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She has no bulge at all, nothing. If there is a foal in there, it must be the size of a rabbit, or be vacuum packed or something as her tummy is tiny.
 
If she was scanned in September and was not in foal i doubt she is now, unless your vet was very inexperienced at scanning and missed the pregnancy.
 
Awwww lovely! I miss my old pally loads
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Yours reminds me of her a bit, although yours is slightly heavier built but lovely. I presume she goes a pale goldy coloured in summer and nearly white in winter
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Mine, she was PTS in August:

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Well we had a mare that the vet said you would have to be an idiot to think she was in foal. So we sold her as not in foal and look what popped out...

Vets do get it wrong..

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She doesn't look in foal from behind, but then before scans I regularly got it wrong! One year I stood watching the foal "move" yet the mare wasn't in foal!
I would get her scanned then at least you know where you are. You're very good to take her back, I doubt I would have done that without more proof.
 
I would say she's not
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but could be wrong, by looking at the picture from last summer you posted it looks like she had quite a low round belly (if that makes sense!) before and now is lacking topline and muscle on her bum. My mare's 'boobies'
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are quite swollen at the moment, the vet says it's because she is probably (sp) going to have a season soon.
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Would be nice to know though, she is lovely, will she be back up for sale?
 
Is it possible she may be having a phantom pregnancy? Don't know if it is common in horses or not as she does not look like she is in foal but her teats look a bit swollen.
I don't have experience around mares as both mine are geldings so I don't know if their teats swell when in season?
Is she leaking at all?
Have you tried gently squeezing on her teats and see if any fluid or milk comes out?
She is lovely though but don't tell my daughter as she wanted a pally and got a piebald instead lol.
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*prepares to enter bidding war for when filly is up for sale*

Mind you my neighbour bought a little mare that might have been in foal, she got bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger - vet couldn't find anything on scan but felt she had to have a foal in there somewhere and offered to get another vet out, which was declined. Mare got bigger and bigger and bigger. My neighbour eventually sold her after a year, with no foal The mare was absolutely mahoosive by then and no foal has appeared yet. Her new owners put her on starvation diet for months (and then wondered why she got snappy at feed times when she wasn't fed and also started eating her straw bedding)
 
A friend put a retired mare I had given her on loan to a stallion.Mare was scanned in foal.Mare bagged up,muscles softened etc near due time then nothing.Friend got vet up who examined and took bloods turned out she wasn't in foal after all this time despite looking very pregnant!!.Thinking was she had reabsorbed early in pregnacy but still carried on 'thinking' she was pregnant.So is possible to appear in foal but not be.
Would say she does look to me but not an expert by any means.
 
I am not sure... in some shots she looks as though she could be, and then in others looks as though she definitely is not. I tend not to go on the size of their tummy (although hannah's is huge) as I know a lovely TB who is just four weeks behind Hannah and is tiny. Her owner was wondering whether it was actually still in foal at all until she saw it move last night!

Her udders have definitely started to bag up though...
 
I can't believe they wanted to return her. I'd have been so excited had she been mine and the foal would have been a bonus!
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