Is she worth anything as a potential broodmare?

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I recently bought a very nice mare in both temperament and paces. However, I have subsequently found out that she has a Grade 2 Kissing spine. As I don't want to go down the route of treating her and trying to compete (for various personal reasons) I am wondering if she has any value as a potential broodmare.

She is an 8yr chestnut 16.1 mare KWPN by Nassau (Indoctro Lines) and mother by Hamilton/Nimmerdor lines. She has 2 jumping points at 1.10m in Holland and 4 dressage points.

I've no idea about breeding and if she is worth anything?
 
Have you asked the vet how she would cope with being in foal and whether or not it's hereditary?
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I'm pretty sure that anything more than very "mild" kissing spine has a fairly genetic basis, so might be a bit dangerous to breed from her. She'd probably be good as an ET recipient.

Others may have other views on Kissing Spine, so don't panic straight away. Sorry to hear about her problem.
 
so i dont really know anything about kissing spine grading, is grade2 quite severe then?? can you not go back on the dealer, or who ever you bought her off??
 
I haven't seen anything to suggest that kissing spines in equines is hereditary (although of course it may be that conformation could predispose to it.

In people, kissing spines is also known as Baastrup's disease or syndrome.

Causes
Kissing spines can either be caused by trauma or degenerative factors. Injuries that involve sudden, forceful flexion of the spine, such as driving accidents, falls, sudden torsions, or severe direct blows can be causative factors. It can also be caused by degenerative changes in the interspinous ligaments along the tips of the spinous processes of the vertebrae.

That would suggest that trauma to the spine causes it in people - and it would seem likely that the same is true in horses. A vet would need to assess the mare to see if the condition was severe enough to make carrying a foal problematic - but other than that, I don't think it should be a problem. She's nicely bred!
 
My mare has severe kissing spine - 8 vetebrae effected. My vets have said that this wouldn't cause her or a foal any problems and it is not hereditary.

Might be worth checking with your own vet for peace of mind though.
 
hi, i love your mares breeding, and def think she has great potential as a brood mare, as to her value ask navel gem she recently bought a very good brood mare, i am also sure that it should not be a problem, and the majority of kissing spine cases are caused by trauma of some sort, good luck she sounds a lovely mare
 
It has been theorized that the pain may originate from degenerative disc disease and spinal stenosis associated with the disease. Degenerative disc disease IS hereditary - it does run in families.

I don't think you can discount that it may be passed onto a foal. And a veterinarian who tells you that it is definitely not hereditary is at best ignorant, and at worst lying. We just don't know the real answer at the end of the day. However, I am pretty sure that "trauma" is not a cause of kissing spine.
 
Hello, i went to look at a potential broodmare, very well bred, competed to ad med level dressage, i had her vetted and found she had OCD in her hock joint, said i wouldn't be able to have her as no way could i risk it and the lady offered her to me for free, as an ET mare, i said yes as the vet said it would not cause her any problems in foaling, she is 17 hands. 9 years old and i really hope the ET will all work out, she has enough attitude i hope to cope with my mares foal if we get that far!! Also i have a mare out of hamilton, uppercut on her dams side, she is the sweetest mare and very beautiful so i can understand why you would want to potentially breed from your mare. No help really sorry!
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The vet said she should be okay to breed from.

What's an ET mare? I don't want to breed from her myself, I want to sell her or at the very worst give her away.

I don't really want to sell her as a project horse as although I am sure she will be rideable and competeable with the right treatment, I don't know what sort of hands she will end up in.
 
I was given mine, the previous owner was worried about the same problems as you, ending up in the wrong hands and being passed pillar to post for years, i was able to give her a lifelong home where she would always be busy and get lots of love, but some people do buy them, generally for less than £1000 in my experience? Good luck with her x
 
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