Is there anything can be done?

webble said:
Not to put a spanner in the works but how bad is she? would she be up to the journey?
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That's not putting a spanner in the works, that's being practical I think.

The first step would need to be to ascertain how lame she is, what exactly was found during the investigations, and the likely prognosis for her. If the owner is considering PTS that does suggest that the issues are quite significant. Hopefully not, but there are lots of unknowns as yet which could have a significant bearing on the situation.
 
I have rehabbed one that had a very similar diagnosis and is now sound without injections, although everyone accepts that this is through careful management and won't last forever.

Feel free to PM me for details as it's not my horse, we just did the rehab for a friend, so I won't put details here.

The first thing I'd do though is get the X-rays and full vet history to properly assess.

On seeing this mares X-rays, the initial vet had rightly assumed they would continue to degenerate because the horse would continue to experience friction and the sites would continue to be aggravated.

My vet, physio and farrier really thought outside the box.

By changing the angles of the foot and doing a lot of intensive physio and postural work with the horse, we were able to change that point of friction which means the deterioration of the bones has been slowed. It isn't stopped and it won't last forever if the horse reverts back to the way it was using itself before, but it is sound and happy for now and that was good enough for the owner.
 
Petalpoos said:
The buyer cannot get compensation for a horse she bought 3 years ago. If she starts going down that route then I suggest you

cease communication with her.
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Absolutely 3 years is a long time. Giving her back for free (if you even wanted this option and no one would think badly if you didn't) saves her the cost of pts and all that entails.
 
This lameness is as likely to be caused by management as it is to be caused by genetics .
You are kind good person .
Offer her a home and areturn journey the mare is sadly only worth meat price atm.
I hope you can bring her home if lame horses can dream they probably dream of how they felt safe close to their mother in their first field .
This is not your fault .
 
SEL said:
You could offer to buy her back I guess - at least then you could see if her trim, posture etc are optimal and if not rehab & injections might be useful.

Very pretty pony and very upsetting news 😢
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2nd this, I have a mare with navicular and she wasn't born with it. I rescued her from a bad path similar to your mare. Sorry but I would have her back in a heartbeat as field ornament.
 
CastlelackSportHorses said:
This filly has never been shod, always been barefoot. So I am thinking maybe she needs to be shod by a remedial farrier!
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not always with navicular one of mine was worse with shoes, she is now barefoot and much better, never be ridden again but just a field ornament.

Some will remember my mare who suffered horribly by a bad farrier. today she has no false sole and trimmer amazed she is still with us judging on her xray from bad farrier.
I would pay the woman what she wanted to get my mare back. MY girl is still here after this bad xray walking on her heels and she had dsld when she walked and her toes came off the ground. I have an amazing barefoot trimmer and owe her and the vet her life.

also she had injections now no injections and just 1 danilon a day.
 

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Goldenstar said:
This lameness is as likely to be caused by management as it is to be caused by genetics .
You are kind good person .
Offer her a home and areturn journey the mare is sadly only worth meat price atm.
I hope you can bring her home if lame horses can dream they probably dream of how they felt safe close to their mother in their first field .
This is not your fault .
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What a lovely answer.
 
canteron said:
Which isn’t cheap - so decide what is feasible for you and give the owner a chance to work through her options.
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If she is insured then the insurer may well pay out to pts as it is likely to be cheaper than ongoing treatment.

She may feel that pts is the kindest option and would rather do what she thinks is the right thing rather than what op does.
 
Fred66 said:
If she is insured then the insurer may well pay out to pts as it is likely to be cheaper than ongoing treatment.

She may feel that pts is the kindest option and would rather do what she thinks is the right thing rather than what op does.
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Agree. And let’s face it if the owner was “one of us” and wanted to pts rather than give away to an old owner we would back them because it, again ensures the horse’s future which is ultimately the best thing. The horse has no idea if it’s dead or alive unless it’s suffering.
 
I'm very sorry you are all in this scenario.
Fred66 said:
If she is insured then the insurer may well pay out to pts as it is likely to be cheaper than ongoing treatment.

She may feel that pts is the kindest option and would rather do what she thinks is the right thing rather than what op does.
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Ditto this.

There'a no harm in offering but I'd be prepared for a no. There is no way I'd be selling a horse that I was considering PTS, even back to the breeder.

And if another poster came along saying they were about to sell a lame horse that the get has suggested PTS, there would be uproar.

As the current owner, I'd need to take 100% accountability of this situation for the sake of the horse.
 
The vet didn’t suggest PTS as far as I understood, it was the owner who is considering it. From experience things have to be pretty dire for a vet to suggest that.

Navicular and changes can both be treated although not cured so I think you’d be hard pushed to find any insurer who would pay for euth costs or loss of use on that diagnosis.

Fair play to the owner for doing the right thing by the horse and not passing it on. If it were me the only way I’d consider it is if I knew it was a long term home and then PTS if circs changed.
 
You are amazing to be even considering this, makes me feel better about the horse world!
Maybe I’m just being cynical, but there’s something about the sound of the owner which is concerning me. The feeling you get that they wouldn’t just give her back to you for free and you say they would want some ‘compensation’. OP, do you think they might be trying to get money out of you? Either by getting you to pay for injections (I really wouldn’t do this, that’s their responsibility, they have had for 3 yrs!!) or by buying her back?
Telling you they may have to pts could be emotional blackmail, hoping you will help. I doubt she’s so bad she needs to be pts, lots of horses have arthritis issues and go on to be nice hacks.

All you can do is offer to give her a home, but really, it should be at no cost to you. You would be doing them a massive favour by getting them out of paying vets fees.
 
Thank you all for your replies!
I messaged the owner and offered to take my girl home(Ill pay for transport back from UK) and retire her in the field with my old rescue boy(Whom she grew up with)
Owner was very thankful for the offer and said she has given it all alot of thought and has decided to follow the Vets in Rossdales advice and reassess her in a couple of months, she loves the bones of the filly so said even if she can get her happy hacking for a few years would be happy, but keeping her welfare in mind. And when that time comes if things still arent right she will consider retirement either with her or me.

So I am more hopeful about the situation for my little yellow pony :D

Its been a whirlwind weekend, pricing transport, trying to figure out a plan for her. But I can relax now for a while.
I have attached vet report.
 

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ycbm said:
That sounds like a great outcome, and an owner who understandably panicked a bit under the stress of the situation. You bred a good looking horse!

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Yes I definitely think she just panicked when she messaged me! She said she could still change her mind as her head is all over the place which is fair!
But at least she has a plan now.

Yes I agree, she is the most beautiful lady! And I owned 4 generations of her :D
 
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