Is this a dreaded sarcoid?

[Havital]

First picture is from the 3 September
Second picture is from the 8 September
Third is from the 14 September.

have been applying thuja cream twice daily for a week now. Spoke with vet and she isn’t sure from looking at the photos and said we may need to do a biopsy however she does think it could potentially be a sore of some sort from having a hood on her that rubbed in that area.

the lump in question is her armpit area and could only upload the photos by cropping them loads.

so what do you guys think

 

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[PurBee]

First pic seems to show a slight yellow crusty centre-point, making me thinks its a bite. Armpit area are a favourite with the biting bugs too.

Is the little lump squishy or hard? My mare had a little lump that was a bite that became pussy and somewhat squishy, so managed to squeeze puss out and it healed.

 

[Tiddlypom]

Probably .

Vets don't usually biopsy potential sarcoids, unless your vet is planning to remove it completely first? Don't poke or aggravate them in any way is the mantra.

It looks like it may be suitable for banding, though, which is cheap and effective.

 

[Havital]

This is a hard lump

 

[meleeka]

Unfortunately it does look like it

 

[PinkvSantaboots]

It does look like one unfortunately ?

My horse has had a few they have come up after a bout of colic and lameness apparently this is common as there immune system has been compromised, I put my horse on a good multi vitamin supplement and tried to boost the immune system and they did eventually go on there own, I actually stopped the supplement in the spring and one came back so his back on it and it has shrunk since.

My vet said feeding aloe vera can boost the immune system and there is another product but I can't remember what that is I will have a look and see if I can find it.

 

[Havital]

thank you everyone so far for your feedback. What multi vitamin supplement was yours on PinkvBoots?

 

[paddy555]

I would stop the thuja cream, stop the vet doing a biopsy and stop touching it or doing anything else to it and ask your vet to send some pics to Dr K to try and work out what it is and what the best thing to do is.
i was sure I had a sarcoid and my vet was sure it was a sarcoid and would have to be removed due to it's position but fortunately he knew to get pics to Dr K first. Dr K wasn't sure, thought it may not be but advised how it was to be removed (in this case it had to go) and it was sent to the lab and wasn't a sarcoid.

 

[Havital]

I’ve called the vets and sent images off. Awaiting a phone call from them.

 

[irishdraft]

My gelding had a nodular sarcoid in exactly that position. It was growing very fast so I had it banded which got rid of it but he has been left with quite a big scar

 

[PinkvSantaboots]

thank you everyone so far for your feedback. What multi vitamin supplement was yours on PinkvBoots?

I swap between the progressive earth pro balance and the platinum hoof one.

 

[Havital]

Vet thinks it’s sarcoids and is coming out on Monday

 

[Roasted Chestnuts]

Flour and salt paste. Facebook page for sarcoid cure. I’ve seen it work first hand.

 

[ycbm]

Flour and salt paste. Facebook page for sarcoid cure. I’ve seen it work first hand.

You've seen a sarcoid go away after having flour and salt put on it. Lots of people have seen a sarcoid go away after doing nothing at all to it. I'd be extremely surprised if flour and salt could be proven in clinical trials to have any effect at all.
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[Roasted Chestnuts]

You've seen a sarcoid go away after having flour and salt put on it. Lots of people have seen a sarcoid go away after doing nothing at all to it. I'd be extremely surprised if flour and salt could be proven in clinical trials to have any effect at all.
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IVe watched two go literally. Check out the Facebook page. If I hadn’t seen it for myself I would have believed it at all.

 

[paddy555]

Flour and salt paste. Facebook page for sarcoid cure. I’ve seen it work first hand.

If you think you have a sarcoid then watchful waiting is one possibility, another is getting a professional opinion from a vet and preferably a referral and advice from Dr K. Please however don't irritate the sarcoid by putting heavens knows what on it.

Does anyone really think that sarcoids would be the problem and worry they are if we could just resolve them by flour and salt.
As for facebook then some of the cures and one in particular can do untold damage.

 

[ycbm]

As for facebook then some of the cures and one in particular can do untold damage.

Though to be fair none of the alternatives does more damage than Liverpool cream or lasering, and nothing seems to be as painful for the horse as Liverpool cream.
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[Roasted Chestnuts]

If you think you have a sarcoid then watchful waiting is one possibility, another is getting a professional opinion from a vet and preferably a referral and advice from Dr K. Please however don't irritate the sarcoid by putting heavens knows what on it.

Does anyone really think that sarcoids would be the problem and worry they are if we could just resolve them by flour and salt.
As for facebook then some of the cures and one in particular can do untold damage.

As I replied earlier I’ve seen it work on a few so I can only go by my experience, which is no less valid than anyone else’s. why would I say something worked that I’d seen first hand that didn’t, even if it is so simple. Why do herbs and supplements work then if it’s so simple?

I agree with YCBM the vet led treatments are painful for the horse and do damage and leave scaring and from what I’ve seen not always successful.

 

[Cortez]

If flour and salt worked then there would be no sarcoids. Likewise the toothpaste "treatment", turmeric, snake oil, whatever. I used the Liverpool cream on my mare and it worked, permanently, with mild discomfort.

 

[paddy555]

As I replied earlier I’ve seen it work on a few so I can only go by my experience, which is no less valid than anyone else’s. why would I say something worked that I’d seen first hand that didn’t, even if it is so simple. Why do herbs and supplements work then if it’s so simple?

I agree with YCBM the vet led treatments are painful for the horse and do damage and leave scaring and from what I’ve seen not always successful.

I have looked at some of the sarcoid facebook sites and all you can see are pictures of people's success stories. You don't really see the failures. I am sure some of the failures are not posted or told they are the poster's own fault.
I once got taken in by that. I saw lots of successes. So I tried it. I ended up making the sarcoid an awful lot worse and I was VERY VERY lucky that it forgave me. That involved herbs and supplements.

They are far too serious to be dealing with them by "snakeoil" cures.


Perhaps if everyone with a sarcoid, presuming it actually is a sarcoid, were to put flour and salt on it tonight the whole horse population would be free of sarcoids very soon.

 

[Roasted Chestnuts]

I have looked at some of the sarcoid facebook sites and all you can see are pictures of people's success stories. You don't really see the failures. I am sure some of the failures are not posted or told they are the poster's own fault.
I once got taken in by that. I saw lots of successes. So I tried it. I ended up making the sarcoid an awful lot worse and I was VERY VERY lucky that it forgave me. That involved herbs and supplements.

They are far too serious to be dealing with them by "snakeoil" cures.


Perhaps if everyone with a sarcoid, presuming it actually is a sarcoid, were to put flour and salt on it tonight the whole horse population would be free of sarcoids very soon.

thats all very fine but If every sarcoid treated by vets was cured by vet treatments then your argument would hold more weight.

nothing has a 100% success rate

You are posting your experiences which I am not pulling apart as they are your experiences however I am posting mine which is a repeat are just as valid as yours are.

 

[lannerch]

If only life was so simple that flour and salt paste resolved sarcoids . Luckily it looks like the op is sensible and is getting the advice of a vet.
Miracle cures for sarcoids are often so claimed as they can sometimes resolve themselves and disappear completely with no treatment whatsoever, I think it’s due to them being caused by a virus that the body can learn to eliminate but I may be wrong . That also may be why herbs and diet changes can apparently seem to make a difference in some cases as they could boost the bodies immune system , but certainly not solely as a home cure.
it looks like a sarcoids to me to, my boy had them round his tail and sheath area , he had the worst lasered off , luckily the rest before they could also be removed spontaneously disappeared ( no home cure applied ) never to reappear. I was lucky .