Is this becoming a habit - Police treating their dogs badly.

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We have recently had two Police officers taken to court for severely and regularly beating their dogs in their back yard, filmed by a neighbour.

A policeman who allowed his two dogs to die in the heat of a car
and now this. Would any of us string our horse over a fence he couldn't get over ( assuming of course we could lift them LOL )

There was a huge uproar years ago about a police training centre and it looks like lessons haven't been learnt.

I know there will be hundreds of really good dog handlers but it seems a bit of a lottery and I for one wouldn't hand my dogs over to the police until these ' isolated incidents' disappear.
 
Les face it, the police are nothing like they used to be, its all paper work and keeping up with finances!! they are not the loyal caring forces we used to have, and animal cruelty has gone sky high in every corner of this country. This does not surprise me one bit, and its just one case made known to the public, tip of an iceberg?
 
Oh Dear
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Unfortunately "dog handler training" isn't going to help either is it- its common sense not to haul them over a fence by the collar
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At least he's not working with dogs anymore...
 
"It was PC Edgar's second police dog. The first, called Tego, attacked him twice causing nerve damage to his fingers and was deemed unsuitable for police dog work"


Does make you suspicious as to why his first dog attacked him.
 
I don't know about a general problem but this guy sounds totally unsuitable to working with dogs. He obviously has a bad temper and doesn't seem to know much about training in the first place!

This is what I thought as well Beetle_Juice! Makes you wonder!
 
Yes, dragging a dog over a scale by its' lead is reeeeaaalllllly going to make it want to jump.....or go near the damned thing ever again.

Thank goodness he has been able to be retrained and I hope pain wasn't the reason he refused the scale in the first place - for a dog to jump a scale repeatedly, it must be fully fit and conformationally sound.
 
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Les face it, the police are nothing like they used to be, its all paper work and keeping up with finances!! they are not the loyal caring forces we used to have, and animal cruelty has gone sky high in every corner of this country. This does not surprise me one bit, and its just one case made known to the public, tip of an iceberg?

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I am certain this is not the tip of an iceberg however you do make some very valid points. Some cases may be simply horrific accidents without any deliberate intent of cruelty, I'm thinking of the dogs left in the car that died, or the forgotten dog in the kennel, other example are clearly of people who are clearly unsuitable to work with animals and we must question whether they are even suitable to be police officers.

The Police as a career choice has changed. For those who joined 20 or 30 years ago it was a commitment to a lifetime vocation and that is the critical difference. People accepted that there were stringent conditions on their personal lives (you certainly couldn't marry without permission, for example), the salary until the early 80's wasn't great, they were under equipped and often under trained but still performed well and had the respect of the community.

So what has changed? Career specialisations have pretty much come to an end and the desirable attribute sought in a candidate for specialism have changed too. Whereas once your prospective dog handler would be an effective and experienced police officer in terms of arrests and investigations, a broader sweep of skills was required, fitness of course, an interest in dogs and maybe some related experience. They would develop through handling a dog or two, to training other handlers, to making policy decisions - this could last 20 years building up a vast cache of expertise.

These days the desirable qualities for any specialisation appear to have narrowed, often according to the current government soundbite. So, if you arrest lots of people, tick all the boxes in your annual appraisal (and we all know how pointless they can be) and present strongly on an interview board the job could be yours for as long as it suits you before you want to move on and get promoted/try something different/move to the Met for higher wages.

Not quite the same kind of applicant, is it?
 
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Les face it, the police are nothing like they used to be, its all paper work and keeping up with finances!! they are not the loyal caring forces we used to have, and animal cruelty has gone sky high in every corner of this country. This does not surprise me one bit, and its just one case made known to the public, tip of an iceberg?

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I am certain this is not the tip of an iceberg however you do make some very valid points. Some cases may be simply horrific accidents without any deliberate intent of cruelty, I'm thinking of the dogs left in the car that died, or the forgotten dog in the kennel, other example are clearly of people who are clearly unsuitable to work with animals and we must question whether they are even suitable to be police officers.

The Police as a career choice has changed. For those who joined 20 or 30 years ago it was a commitment to a lifetime vocation and that is the critical difference. People accepted that there were stringent conditions on their personal lives (you certainly couldn't marry without permission, for example), the salary until the early 80's wasn't great, they were under equipped and often under trained but still performed well and had the respect of the community.

So what has changed? Career specialisations have pretty much come to an end and the desirable attribute sought in a candidate for specialism have changed too. Whereas once your prospective dog handler would be an effective and experienced police officer in terms of arrests and investigations, a broader sweep of skills was required, fitness of course, an interest in dogs and maybe some related experience. They would develop through handling a dog or two, to training other handlers, to making policy decisions - this could last 20 years building up a vast cache of expertise.

These days the desirable qualities for any specialisation appear to have narrowed, often according to the current government soundbite. So, if you arrest lots of people, tick all the boxes in your annual appraisal (and we all know how pointless they can be) and present strongly on an interview board the job could be yours for as long as it suits you before you want to move on and get promoted/try something different/move to the Met for higher wages.

Not quite the same kind of applicant, is it?

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Hear hear. Cruelty to animals is NEVER permissible, but it makes me fume when I hear people critisising the Police. In my book, if you're one of the ones who constantly complain and moan about individuals trying to do their best whilst hog-tied by burocuracy and red-tape - don't make them the first people you call when you're in trouble, sort it yourself. End of.
 
'they are not the loyal caring forces we used to have'

I disagree totally with this. I know many police officers who go out of their way to help everyone AND they treat their dogs beautifully.
Some people see police dogs as machines, much like some people view their dressage horses. Its just there to do its job but the police officers do not view their dogs as just pets, it's more than that, they spend hours and hours everyday with said dog and they have to have a great bond as the dog is what will protect them when something goes wrong.

It's the same with everything though, there's always someone who ruins it and gives it a bad name. Like teenagers, everyone thinks we're damn evil and out to stab you all, when in reality we really aren't, it's just the psycho's!
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But back to the subject, poor dog!

'but this guy sounds totally unsuitable to working with dogs.'

Totally agree!
 
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