Is this normal?

Unfortunately this is all too common now, I couldn't cope if I knew my girl was without hay or didn't have all her needs met. I understand your decision to give the owner notice but I would't be able to leave the horse with nothing, even if just giving water and putting some hay in for it, if needs be tell the owner that while the horse is in your care if they don't come down then you will be doing the necessary jobs for the horse and will add it on to their bill.
The yard I was previously on, we had an owner like this and all of the liveries were so disgusted by her behaviour that the horse was made sure that it had everything by most of the liveries on the yard as we were unprepared to leave the horse in the state that it's owner did.
 
CranberryFairyLeaves said:
Unfortunately this is all too common now, I couldn't cope if I knew my girl was without hay or didn't have all her needs met. I understand your decision to give the owner notice but I would't be able to leave the horse with nothing, even if just giving water and putting some hay in for it, if needs be tell the owner that while the horse is in your care if they don't come down then you will be doing the necessary jobs for the horse and will add it on to their bill.
The yard I was previously on, we had an owner like this and all of the liveries were so disgusted by her behaviour that the horse was made sure that it had everything by most of the liveries on the yard as we were unprepared to leave the horse in the state that it's owner did.
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I'll keep giving it hay. Told her yesterday it had nothing and she needs to sort the horse out, all I got was "oh thanks so much for feeding, yeah I will".
Luckily we have drinkers so that's saved me another job!
 
It is really common, got one at our current yard too. Meanwhile, I'm there religiously caring for mine, and it is ME who is getting hatred calls and messages from YM, and claiming I'm there too much!!
 
Maybe as someone suggested before offer her part livery for a reasonable price if you have time, then you know you've done the best for the horse while it was in your care?
 
CranberryFairyLeaves said:
Maybe as someone suggested before offer her part livery for a reasonable price if you have time, then you know you've done the best for the horse while it was in your care?
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Unfortunately I can't do another one otherwise I would. Don't mind giving it hay but that would be it, turning out in the ménage really done it today though!
 
I think it totally wrong too.
I can't understand people them at treat their horses like this.

You need a work with them.
If you are paying for a service, you should be able to specify how and when they do it.
 
amymay said:
Well, you're doing the bare minimum I guess. Why you're not turning it out though is beyond me.

Poor horse. It's in a total lose, lose situation.
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Mine have been out, I'm not obliged to turn something out if it's not my horse, I'm insured but I'm not being responsible for an injury
 
No. You are coping out. The owner is neglecting.

You have a duty of care to ensure that this horse's needs are being met. Chucking it a bit of hay barely covers that need.

Why on earth do you think it should be turned out alone. Surely it has a stable group of field companions?

And no, I don't run my own yard. But I've stabled on excellent yards where this behaviour would not be tolerated. The horses care would be taken over by the yard owner, and owner billed accordingly (whilst the notice period was being served).
 
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amymay said:
No. You are coping out. The owner is neglecting.

You have a duty of care to ensure that this horse's needs are being met. Chucking it a bit of hay barely covers that need.

Why on earth do you think it should be turned out alone. Surely it has a stable group of field companions?
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Not it doesn't, there are my three and her. So no I won't be turning it out on its own. Nice suggestion though!
 
Loulou2002 said:
Not it doesn't, there are my three and her. So no I won't be turning it out on its own. Nice suggestion though!
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Why can't this horse just go out with your horses then, for the remainder of its time at your yard? I would think that since it is stabled at your yard, there must be enough turnout for it as well as them?
 
Arizahn said:
Why can't this horse just go out with your horses then, for the remainder of its time at your yard? I would think that since it is stabled at your yard, there must be enough turnout for it as well as them?
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They have individual turnout. Plus she didn't want it in with anything else. All fields are next to each other with post and rail. My horses haven't been out everyday while the weather has been rough. My jumping horses want to come in after an hour!

We have a nice lady coming with two once she goes!
 
I'm faced with a similar issue at the moment and it's extremely irritating to say the least. How anyone can think it's acceptable to leave a stabled horse 24hrs between visits is beyond me.
 
amymay said:
Well, you're doing the bare minimum I guess. Why you're not turning it out though is beyond me.

Poor horse. It's in a total lose, lose situation.
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Why should OP turn the horse out? If you start doing that every time a livery neglects their horse, they just get away with it and you end up lumbered with the responsibility.
 
Moomince Pie said:
I'm faced with a similar issue at the moment and it's extremely irritating to say the least. How anyone can think it's acceptable to leave a stabled horse 24hrs between visits is beyond me.
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Had one the same a few years ago. In the end she moved (was a good friend of mine) horse was sent off to live out on a farm.
 
Loulou2002 said:
They have individual turnout. Plus she didn't want it in with anything else. All fields are next to each other with post and rail. My horses haven't been out everyday while the weather has been rough. My jumping horses want to come in after an hour!

We have a nice lady coming with two once she goes!
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Well, why can't this horse be out next to one or other of your jumping horses then - even an hour is better than nothing, surely?
 
Moomince Pie said:
Why should OP turn the horse out? If you start doing that every time a livery neglects their horse, they just get away with it and you end up lumbered with the responsibility.
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Thank you! Yeah let's give her even more reason not to come down, hard enough to get the livery off her as it is without adding on extra.
 
Moomince Pie said:
I'm faced with a similar issue at the moment and it's extremely irritating to say the least. How anyone can think it's acceptable to leave a stabled horse 24hrs between visits is beyond me.
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It isn't acceptable at all, imo.

Moomince Pie said:
Why should OP turn the horse out? If you start doing that every time a livery neglects their horse, they just get away with it and you end up lumbered with the responsibility.
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I'd do it and bill them for it. Give them written notice by recorded post - extra £50 per day to turnout and bring in. Anyhow, it's only until the owner moves now, so short term issue...why not do it for the sake of the horse?
 
To those suggesting YO turn horse out, what happens if the horse has an accident in the field when owner does not know it is out. It is DIY after all. As long as it has hay and water, its needs are being met until she goes.
 
Arizahn said:
It isn't acceptable at all, imo.



I'd do it and bill them for it. Give them written notice by recorded post - extra £50 per day to turnout and bring in. Anyhow, it's only until the owner moves now, so short term issue...why not do it for the sake of the horse?
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Valid point. My apologies - I didn't read the entire thread so didn't know they were due to leave. ;)
 
Sadly, I know of many people who are happy to do this - horses are fed for them though not left without anything to eat. But they are left in and left to stand in a dirty stable until they decide to come up. These are part liveries so just muck out at weekends. It's a very different routine to the one they are used to in the week and it can't be good for them to have such a drastic change. I'm on DIY and am always at the yard by 9.30am at the very very latest - mine are on ad-lib haylage so never run out of food.
 
sare_bear said:
To those suggesting YO turn horse out, what happens if the horse has an accident in the field when owner does not know it is out. It is DIY after all. As long as it has hay and water, its needs are being met until she goes.
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It's needs aren't being met if it's stood ankle deep in the proverbial for 24 hours at a time.
 
Loulou2002 said:
She has a couple of weeks or so but I know she hasn't found anywhere else yet.
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I really do feel for you OP, these situations are always tricky and so frustrating. Could you possibly get an officer from WHW to have a little chat with the owner to give her a kick up the backside until she goes?
 
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