Is this placenta complete?

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Hoping for some advice as I am not anxious to disturb my vet on a Sunday!

My mare foaled at 9am today (a nice filly) and apparently cleansed immediately. I have a copy of "Equine Reproduction" by McKinnon and Voss and this placenta doesn't look like the characteristic "F" illustrated on page 514 nor does it look particularly vascular. Can someone please confirm that it is complete and normal?

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I had two mares with retained placenta in January but since then I have applied 40 tonnes of lime to bring the pH up to normal. Another mare, after applying the lime, also cleansed without problems and now this one appears to have cleansed within minutes. Coincidence?

Just need some reassurance that everything is OK from someone who knows! Mare and foal are fine. (Asking questions is how I learn).
 
To answer my own post, no, this is not a complete cleansing!

The mare is now in the process of passing the placenta normally. Sorry for panic mode. Sunday morning and still half asleep!
 
I would put this in the Breeding Forum too, lots of experience in there. JG's tip is to run a hosepipe gently through it from the neck of it, that way you can tell if there are any holes if water comes out and if there are, it's a vet callout for sure. Afraid I'm one of those people that always have a vet check of both mare and foal within 12 hours for my own peace of mind so you can catch something early that might cause a serious problem, therefore an expensive problem, later if left too long.

Congratulations on the foal, can you put pics in the Breeding Forum please, we like pics of mares and foals!
 
No, as you answered your own question, the above is the amnion, placenta will follow. Hope you have a lovely healthy foal. x
 
You brutes!:D All having a good laugh at my expense!:o

Actually, the mare still gave me cause for worry as she did not cleanse (properly) until 8 hours later, after I had warned the vet that she might have to be called out. But all is now well.

Prior to cleansing, she was obviously uncomfortable, refusing to be caught (very unusual) with lots of head tossing. Then she laid down for a spell and that seems to have got things moving as she allowed me to lead her and foal down the field to the shelter in case the vet needed to cleanse her manually. All's well that ends well.

I feel a real idiot about confusing the amnion with the placenta. Must have lambed hundreds of ewes in my time, not to mention a year at vet college!

Photos as requested on the breeding forum.
 
Oh please don't feel an idiot. I wasn't 'laughing' at you. I was remembering how my brain doesn't work when I'm worried especially about my horses! I've had horses with hoof abcess with broken legs and all sorts of strange conditions out of my panicky thoughts!
Imo, it's always better to be safe than sorry...

The important thing is she's ok and again many congrats on a new foal.
 
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