Is this reasonable for a part loan?

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Hi, I'm due to have my baby next month and now my horse is sound I really need to loan him as I couldn't sell him in time.
We have our own yard on my neighbours land and we have a large flat schooling area in the field with a few jumps, it stays quite dry all year, there is some off road hacking, about a 20 min loop if you don't go in the road, other wise a few longer rides around but no where to go for a canter.
He's a lovely x show horse who has been well schooled so I want a quiet adult who knows how to ride a horse in an outline and isn't scared by him being a bit forward going whilst out.
I was going to ask £80 a month and they could ride 3 times a week and poo pick or muck out as well.
Is this reasonable or am i asking too much?
Also I want to sell him in the spring should I mention that in my add?
Thanks :)
 
Ahh good luck with the baby, very exciting! Depends on where you are I guess, supply and demand and all that. Because of the poo picking/mucking out, people might not want to pay anything especially if you are going to sell soon. They may feel they are paying you to keep your horse fit so it will sell more easily. You might have to accept offering free riding in exchange for yard jobs. Also not a good time of year to get a sharer. Put out an ad straight away and see what happens, these things take time and baby is nearly here. Or why not put him on sales livery now if you intend to sell?
 
I'm in Hampshire and quite a lot of horsey people in my area. I won't ask them to do anything if that will put people off then. I'm not sure whether to tell someone I'm thinking of selling him incase I change my mind. On the other hand I'm not against the idea of someone loaning him with a view to buy, although I would be very wary of letting him go on full loan somewhere incase he went missing or got hurt.
 
Sounds about right to me, £80 and no yard duties. If you haven't decided to sell him then there's no reason to mention it to a new sharer. You never know how you will feel after a baby! You may find that the sharer will want to buy your horse anyway, that's how I got my horse. I shared him for about 9 months and then owner decided to sell. I bit his hand off! Good luck, I am typing this while shoving pasta into my baby's mouth!! Ha ha bad mum...x
 
Money sounds about right for day and there is every chance if finding someone but it totally depends what a person is looking for.
However not great hacking plus not a proper arena would put people off.
You could full loan him and allow him to move yards.
or send him to a yard to be sold by a professional.
 
I have a friend who would sell him for me who I'd trust, but I can't afford the livery with a baby on the way and I'd have to fork out lots on hay, bedding and feed as they have no grass. We have tons of grass and I'm not planning on bringing them in much over the winter anyway. Need to keep life simple as poss!
 
I would advertise for a share/loan, then if the right person came along, you could consider full loan with him staying locally, but not with you, and they might want to buy him down the line. I had my first pony on loan before I bought him, and he wasn't supposed to be for sale originally, but then they decided to sell. I think £80 a month is about right, especially if you are happy for them to take him to RC etc, and be flexible on days, poss say more days available if they pay for shoes.
 
Quite frankly I think you are taking the mickey. You want someone to pay to ride your horse and do the grotty jobs during the winter when you know you are planning to sell your horse in the spring. It sounds as though you want someone to keep him ticking over so that he is ready to sell.
 
I charged £80 to my last sharer who had him 3 days a week and she had to muck out etc. Yard had great facilities though and she didnt have to poo pick fields. I also had someone pay £150 a month for 3/4 days a week but she was awful and couldnt do basic mucking out, and refused to have lessons, hense dropped price to £80 for next girl and said she needed to have at least 1 lesson a month. I'd say £80 is about right... people arent shy in asking to drop rates believe me if they want!
 
Eggs I don't see how it's taking the mickey. I've already mentioned that il drop the request of mucking out or poo picking, and im not 100% on selling him and the loaner may like to buy in the future. considering a lesson around this area will set you back £30 a time, I don't think £80 is that bad. I've looked on nfed tonight and people are asking for more with chores, so I've put him on there and ive had a reply already from a local girl. Fingers crossed she fits the bill.
 
Everyone I have known to part loan has had to do mucking out chores on their day. If I was putting out a horse on loan I would expect them to muck out otherwise there would be no point as the owner would still need to go anyway.
 
I was in the same position as you, I asked my loaner for a £10 a week contribution towards costs and that was all. I wouldn't have asked her for anything only that I had no money on state maternity pay! She still helps now and doesn't pay anything, because sadly while baby was tiny and I couldn't get up to yard the helpful other people on the yard took his grazing muzzle off and he got laminitis! So poor sharer hasn't been able to do much riding... til July.

So be careful who you put in charge of your horse! The last thing you will need is a poorly horse with a teeny tiny baby, especially in winter!

I am debating selling mine now as I have no time for him, but noone has been interested :(
 
Nothing wrong with a sharer doing jobs on their days, but what you charge should reflect the facilities. And tbh there aren't many facilities on offer for a sharer. Plus the fact they would be doing you a favour, saving you doing jobs & keeping horse in work for you to sell in spring.
 
My sharer pays for half of everything, which works out at £40 per month, unless he's had any extras like new shoes or vet etc.

She gets him 3 days a week and has no chores to do because he lives out all year anyway. All she has to do is make sure he is fed and happy on her days, then she has the choice to ride if she wants to. She can use all the yards facilities, we have a floodlit arena, good hacking and a jumping paddock with both SJ and XC fences.

I think £80 a month is a bit much to be fair. Especially if they are expected to do jobs and the facilities available to them aren't very good
 
Hi, Sorry for the thread hi jack, but reading this has made me wonder if I'm getting a good deal or not... I have recently started a share, I pay £130 per month for Minimum 3 days (can have more if I want) horse is kept on a DIY yard with fantastic hacking, indoor and outdoor schools which are no extra cost to use, I have the opportunity to compete if I want to (which i do) but no transport available so haven't yet been able to, I only have to do the odd bit of mucking out but generally do whatever needs doing!!! What do you think?

How much would DIY be on a yard with the facilities of the above?
 
Hannah140 said:
Hi, Sorry for the thread hi jack, but reading this has made me wonder if I'm getting a good deal or not... I have recently started a share, I pay £130 per month for Minimum 3 days (can have more if I want) horse is kept on a DIY yard with fantastic hacking, indoor and outdoor schools which are no extra cost to use, I have the opportunity to compete if I want to (which i do) but no transport available so haven't yet been able to, I only have to do the odd bit of mucking out but generally do whatever needs doing!!! What do you think?

How much would DIY be on a yard with the facilities of the above?
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I think it sounds very reasonable:) Our yard has outdoor school, sj and xc jumps to use where and when we like, along with miles and miles of off-road hacking all over the place and it costs £130 a month for DIY with own paddock and stable (£90 for grass only like I have;))
 
elliebrewer98 said:
I think it sounds very reasonable:) Our yard has outdoor school, sj and xc jumps to use where and when we like, along with miles and miles of off-road hacking all over the place and it costs £130 a month for DIY with own paddock and stable (£90 for grass only like I have;))
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Hi Ellie, I am paying £130 for just a share /part loan 3 days PW, so if that's what the livery probably costs near too then maybe im not getting as good a deal???
 
Hannah140 said:
Hi, Sorry for the thread hi jack, but reading this has made me wonder if I'm getting a good deal or not... I have recently started a share, I pay £130 per month for Minimum 3 days (can have more if I want) horse is kept on a DIY yard with fantastic hacking, indoor and outdoor schools which are no extra cost to use, I have the opportunity to compete if I want to (which i do) but no transport available so haven't yet been able to, I only have to do the odd bit of mucking out but generally do whatever needs doing!!! What do you think?

How much would DIY be on a yard with the facilities of the above?
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Why don't you ask the YO for a price list for your DIY yard? Ask then work out if you are getting a good deal as every area is different. BUT most importantly what is the horse like????!!!!!

DIY round here is £60 per week
 
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jnhuk said:
Why don't you ask the YO for a price list for your DIY yard? Ask then work out if you are getting a good deal as every area is different. BUT most importantly what is the horse like????!!!!!
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Good idea!! Will give them a call tomorrow!

The horse is fab, really well schooled and exactly what i have been looking for, so to be honest even if i am paying over the odds ill stick with her!!!
 
SNORKEY said:
Hi, I'm due to have my baby next month and now my horse is sound I really need to loan him as I couldn't sell him in time.
We have our own yard on my neighbours land and we have a large flat schooling area in the field with a few jumps, it stays quite dry all year, there is some off road hacking, about a 20 min loop if you don't go in the road, other wise a few longer rides around but no where to go for a canter.
He's a lovely x show horse who has been well schooled so I want a quiet adult who knows how to ride a horse in an outline and isn't scared by him being a bit forward going whilst out.
I was going to ask £80 a month and they could ride 3 times a week and poo pick or muck out as well.
Is this reasonable or am i asking too much?
Also I want to sell him in the spring should I mention that in my add? http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forums/editpost.php?do=editpost&p=11120562
Thanks :)
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I think if you could find the right person then I would discuss the £ contribution then so maybe put price negotiable in the advert. I would expect them to cover part of the farrier's costs and have their own insurance like BHS gold membership but otherwise chores for the rest. If you find the right person, then they may wish to buy your lovely lad off you come spring.... Maybe you should advertise as loan with view to buy but must stay at yours for the next six months?

I think if you didn't tell the loanee/sharer the full picture up front, it would be very unfair to them. It may put some off though but you want to find the right person which is not easy. Be prepared for idiots....

I shared a horse that I now own when his first owner was pregnant. She didn't want to sell at the time and but we both knew what the score was. In the end after her baby was born in December, I gave her notice that I would be looking for my own horse the following Easter and if she wished to sell R to me, then I would be interested. Thankfully she took me up on my offer ;)

Best of luck
 
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Hannah140 said:
Good idea!! Will give them a call tomorrow!

The horse is fab, really well schooled and exactly what i have been looking for, so to be honest even if i am paying over the odds ill stick with her!!!
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THAT is the million dollar answer.:D

Horses are expensive and at the end of the day, if you really love the horse and enjoy spending time looking after them and riding them, the money should not be the issue. You obviously can afford the price since you have started the arrangement. However, if you were to go out and buy a horse of your own, you will be surprised at how all the costs add up.

Things always look different from which perspective you are coming from. Be happy you have a super horse and such a fab place!
 
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