Is This Reasonable?

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Hi There,

I have someone coming to see my little man Charlie tomorrow with a view to sharing/loaning him :) He will be staying where he is now which has not much in the way of facilities, just a decent field with automatic water troughs and off road parking.. Thats about it! I am however, spoilt for amazing hacking! There are hours and hours of fantastic places to hack around here :D

Anyway, the sharer would have full use of Charlie to ride when she wanted (sensibly of course) I would not be planning to ride him as well. The only thing I have said, at least until I know that they are going to look after him as carefully as i do, is that he is only to be hacked, NOT competed. The person coming to look is interested in dressage so if she wanted to do that with him she could of course, but she'd have to school him, i told her he hasnt been schooled in years lol! But obviously, if she doesnt want to share him then whoever did would just be hacking him.

I am covering his livery, insurance, food, hay, vets bills, vaccinations, worming, teeth and feet. I have only said that if they want to ride more than 2 or 3 times a week on the roads, or are going for long road hacks, that they cover the cost of having him shod using my own, trusted farrier.

I have asked for a contribution of £10 per week for the share. Does that, and my terms sound reasonable to you guys?? I have never loaned/shared any of my horses so im not sure of the "going rate", as it were lol!
 
Thanks for the replies. Thats good to hear. The money is less important to me than making sure I get the right person, but I dont want someone who is just using him for free riding lessons which is why i am asking a contribution!

What would you normally expect to pay for a similar set up then if im offering my boy very very cheap??
 
Id have been chuffed if i could have found a share for that cheap when i was looking as a teenager. I was paying £100 a month so ounds very reasonable to me, hope it all goes well
 
Ginger_Nut said:
Id have been chuffed if i could have found a share for that cheap when i was looking as a teenager. I was paying £100 a month so ounds very reasonable to me, hope it all goes well
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Wow... That is a LOT of money!!

No wonder this girl was so keen to come and see him this weekend lol!!

He's a lovely little horse, a nice height (14.2) and type (purebred connie) and very safe and sane, but an ex jumper so has a bit of spark in him which makes him more fun to ride i think as he is not a plod. He is an old pony though, he's 18 this year, which is part of the reason i didnt want to ask too much. He's perfectly healthy and could go out competing with no problems (has won pretty much every competition we've entered since i stopped competing properly!!lol) but i just want an easy life for him which is why im only offering him as a hack and i think anything more than im asking might be ripping the person off a bit..
 
I think it sounds very reasonable, but 18 is not that old, especially for a pony! I can understand you not wanting him to be 'hammered' but I can't see the harm in him doing the occasional light competing at local shows. Nonetheless, I think a lot of people want to just hack and would jump at the chance of your offer.

I hope it all works out, he sounds a lovely pony.
 
£10 a week sounds very reasonable! I pay £20-£30 a week for my share depending on how much I ride which I think is about average.
 
Very very reasonable.

I'm another that was paying £100 for my share. I could ride as often as I wanted through the week. Offered to pay towards shoes but owner said I was paying enough as it was :rolleyes:


After I ended the share I still rode Ellie a few times and paid £10 a time so agree it seems to be the average price
 
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I had a girl share my older pony. The deal was the I didn;t expect her to do any work, just groom, exercise and love the pony. In the event she helped out a lot with mucking out, poo picking and bringing in earlier than I could in the winter! She started out coming 5 times a week. This dropped down over the years as she progressed thrrough school. She paid £15 per week which easily covered shoes and things like clipping, rugs etc that she wouldn;t have had otherwise. I provided transport to shows with my other horse.

I insisted at the start that she had a weekly lesson, which she did fof a few years but she was only 11 at the start!

It worked fantastically well both ways, I think I was very lucky to get her and I know she feels the same about me.
 
badgerdog said:
I think it sounds very reasonable, but 18 is not that old, especially for a pony! I can understand you not wanting him to be 'hammered' but I can't see the harm in him doing the occasional light competing at local shows. Nonetheless, I think a lot of people want to just hack and would jump at the chance of your offer.

I hope it all works out, he sounds a lovely pony.
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He's perfectly capable of competing, I would still be competing him myself if I could!

He is a cracking jumping pony though, he will jump all day if you asked him too, and that is my concern. Someone might abuse his good nature and then im left with a horse that has been hammered by someone, most likely on unsuitable ground (i have always been very careful not to compete him on hard/wet ground but know others are not so careful..). I found myself in a bit of a dilema, if i allowed someone to compete him at the price im asking, they may well think of him as a cheap horse to hammer until they're done with him and move on. If I asked more for him they might think that as they're paying a lot for him its their "right" to do what they want with him.

So, I decided it was best to stipulate in the advert that he is not for competing. He has been a fantastic pony for me for 13 years, took me from the novice unaff classes right up the grades in BSJA and Junior Eventing. We even qualified for the Senior Foxhunter second rounds! :D He is an amazing little horse. But he has earned a quiet retirement and i have turned away probably about 50 people so far who have emailed/phoned and 3 who came to try him as i felt they were unsuitable :)

If I find a suitable person and they prove they are looking after him correctly after a few months I would happily let them do a few local shows with him to see how they get on. Its just, initially i want to be a bit careful... Maybe im paranoid, but he is a very special horse and needs the right person! :)
 
Very reasonable indeed, you wouldn't get a half hour ride on a riding school horse for that.

Where abouts are you? Did you advertise him in Countrywide in Treddington?
 
That sounds very reasonable. I was paying £100 a month for my share, he was effectively mine on the days I did him, but only twice a week but I could have done a third for the same price. I had to do everything with him on those days which I loved as it was like having a proper horse of my own. I could hack and school whenever I wanted but only jump when the owner was there as he was 'forward' and I was a little nervous to begin with.

I'd jump at the chance to share your horse for that deal.
 
He sounds lovely :) £10 is very reasonable, I used to pay half the DIY livery costs, £15 per week, plus half towards shoes (£30 every 6-7 weeks) for my share pony.

His owner was pregnant, so didn't ride at all, but he stayed on her yard. She was happy to bring in / turn out etc on the days I didn't go to the yard, so she could still spend plenty of time with him.

I hope you find the right person, shares can be brilliant :)
 
I pay 20GBP/week for 3ish flexible days.
Horse can do pretty much anything at low level: hacking, lessons, comps, jumping, dressage, x-ctry schooling (although we don't have facilities for that, have to borrow transport/take longish hack). Yard also has parking, tea room, loo, small indoor school. He is on 5-day livery so, espec. in winter, there is some mucking out to be done w/ends.

Given that your offer sounds reasonable or even slightly cheap.

BUT I do pay 1/2 for shoes always which keeps other costs simple. You might want to just say your sharer should pay for shoes (trim if he is currently unshod) regardless of how much hacking. You should also make sure they have rider insurance. Happy sharing!
 
I think it is very reasonable, i also don't think you are being paranoid. After all the posts i have read on here about people not knowing what to do with their retired horse, i think the way you are going about it.
I would be exactly the same. You clearly love your boy and just want the best for him.
He sounds fab and whoever you choose will be bery lucky.
I don't agree that he is old though, not for that breed.
Good luck with getting someone lovely for him.
 
My sharer couldn't compete Monty as he was bloomin' old but could hack every day if she wanted to! He also was kept at a field with no facilities.

She paid £60 a month so yours is very reasonable!
 
Thanks for all the input guys, much appreciated!! Especially about the rider insurance, hadnt thought of that!!


marmalade76 said:
I did see an ad for a bay thre too, looked even nicer than the grey!

ETA - Did you get many replies?
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I have had about 50 enquiries by phone/email and turned most away immediately. Most of them just didnt bother to read the ad I think. I must have had 20 mums ring up quite blantantly saying they wanted him as either a SJ or Eventing schoolmaster for their kids... Um, NO! I said quite clearly in the advert he was not available as a competition horse, and not suitable as a childs pony. And even a few wanting to buy him!! Random. A lot wanted to move him away from where I keep him, which i stated in the ad was not an option.... The few that came to see him were unsuitable. One poor girl could barely ride bless her. He was SO good with her, but when she booted him into canter (quite literally!!!) I had an "OMG" moment where I thought he would just disappear across the field lol!! But thankfully he just went into a rather fast, but controlled canter and came back to mummy with a rather perplexed look on his face. Another turned up with spurs. I said those werent needed on him, especially as he is just a hack. She said she wont ride without them, so she didnt even get as far as riding him lol. I had some really strange responses!!

I think these are a couple of the pics I used on that ad maybe? I cant remember for sure... Look familiar at all??lol

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Absolute bargain. For that you can make certain you get the right person, be picky. Good luck:D
 
I have paid from £20-£30 a week for shares i can just potter round on. not school or compete as they were both unfit and couldnt do much....


so tbh i think its too cheap.. id be asking £15- £20 a week.... with unlimited riding (assuming 5 days?)....
 
jack9 said:
I have paid from £20-£30 a week for shares i can just potter round on. not school or compete as they were both unfit and couldnt do much....


so tbh i think its too cheap.. id be asking £15- £20 a week.... with unlimited riding (assuming 5 days?)....
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I can see where you're coming from, but I dont think its fair to ask too much for him. Im asking for the cost of the field for him (so the monthly cost divided by 2 as i have two horses on it) and a bit extra to cover the cost of feeding him and the other bits. The way I look at it, I would have that cost anyway, so i dont want to take advantage of someone just because i can, i'd rather do as Donkeymad said, and be very picky with who I choose as i can afford to be :)
 
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