Is this the right time to let go?

skylark1

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After a lot of deliberating, I am wondering if this is the right time to put my old horse ‘Po’ to sleep? He is over 30 years old, & has been in my family for 21 years. He's had a fabulous life, he trained as police horse, but didn’t make the grade. We got him and he spent his years hunting, which he absolutely loved. He stopped hunting 10 years ago and I stopped riding him 4 years ago, due to his arthritis. He is a 16.1hh Shire x.

During the last few years he has started getting more problems: He now has cushings. We’ve never been able to clip him without vet administered sedation and the vet now advises against sedating him to the level that we used to do when he was younger. Although I have clipped him by hand this summer, he still overheats and sweats every day at rest. He currently has mild conjunctivitis, which is not responding to treatment, even though he wears a clean flymask every day. He has developed eczema underneath his belly, which oozes and attracts flies, which I treat every day to prevent infection. He’s stabled during the day and out at night, to minimise his problem with heat and flies. He ruptured a tendon last year in the field, during a spell of wet weather, and the vet told me that his tendons have lost their elasticity due to his age. I nursed him back to heath and he has been fine since, though I can’t allow him into muddy fields now. He’s had 5 abscesses in his feet this year, and he currently has one, which I am tubing and poulticing twice a day as well. The last time his feet were trimmed he went lame on all 4 feet. We’re not able to shoe him easily as the farrier has terrible trouble keeping his back legs up long enough now.

His health is clearly deteriorating, but he is still a very happy chap who lives for food and is very cheeky! The thing is, it’s starting to affecting my enjoyment and my ability to spend time with my other horse, as I work and there are only so many hours in the day. My other horse is also now getting on (he’s 20), and he recently retired from eventing and I was thinking that it would be nice to have a younger horse I could jump again and do a bit more on, before I myself am too old, but I certainly cant afford 3 on livery.

I feel terrible for even considering putting Po to sleep, but then I look around me and the majority of people I know sell their horses on at about 11 – 13 years and then after making sure they have nice new owners don’t think much more about it. Po is the oldest horse on the yard, by a long way! I think a lot of people at the yard will be very angry and upset with me, but then no one has offered to help me out, as they are all busy competing and bringing their own horses on. I don’t feel I’m able to advertise for someone to help me look after him, as he’s a tricky sod to handle, and he knows his strength. For example he broke the yard owners rib a couple of years ago, when he head butted her in her stomach.

Am I being selfish, or have I given Po a wonderful life and long and perfect retirement?

Your comments will be appreciated...
 

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I feel terrible for even considering putting Po to sleep,

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Why on EARTH should you feel terrible?? You have given him a fabulous life - and done everything possible to care for him in his retirement. The last thing you can give him is a peaceful and dignified end. Ignore people on the yard - FAR more horse owners should make this decision earlier!! Yes, it will hurt you terribly - he has been a big part of your life for a long time - but let him go while he still has SOME quality of life. From here, it's just downhill, I'm afraid. If he could thank you for saving him the last months, he would!
 

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Mmmmm tricky one but i think that as you are now starting to ask yourself the question, maybe you have the answer? He sounds like a real character and has certainly had a wonderful life.
Whilst I would never end the life of any animal prematurely (insects excluded!), I think that quality of life is hugely important and It is very difficult watching an animal you love dearly deteriorate before your eyes. I know other people say things like I'll give him the summer and then make the call as the colder harsher months draw in but your chap doesn't really appear to be able to enjoy the summer months.
Only you can make the call and as you sound like a very nice, well balanced person, whatever decision you make will be for the best and don't listen to anyone else who tells you otherwise. If other people at the yard want to have their say then either ignore them or put them in their place because he's your boy and only you can decide what is best for him.

Good luck whatever you decide and all the best.
 

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the second half of your post sounds as if your decision is made up of selfish reasons, you want a horse you can ride,, you cant afford 3, so basically if Po goes you could get another to ride?
If that was my boy, he wouldnt go anywhere till he wanted to go, yet you say he is happy.
From what you write his health is deteriorating and maybe, soon he will tell you that the time is right, until he has no quality of life then he should (in my opinion be allowed to live) Maybe he wont see winter, but then you w
Hope i dont sound too awful, i dont mean to be. I know people have very different opinions on this type of post, yes I agree you have given him a lovely life and if you make the sad and very difficult decision to pts, make it on the first half of your post, that he cant be sedated to be clipped for his cushings, his sore tummy and unresponding conjunctivitis and old tendon injury.
Good luck with your very difficult decision.
 

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i know how difficult this decision is, as i only had to make the same choice with my old horse (well more like ancient as he was 45!) a few months ago he was perfectly happy within him self and often dragged and headbutted me when i lead him however at the same time his health was seriously deriorating as he struggled to get up after lying down (we had to pull him up or get the tractor at times) and keep his weight during the winter months so the amount we had to feed him seriously bought the money into the equation!
however the decision can only be made by you not the busy boddies at the yard! i this know it seems weird but you will know when the ryt time is, i did.
gud luck with your decision!!!
 

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Dont feel terrible, from reading your post its obvious that you care alot about Po.

I disagree with Samuelhorse (in a nice way!), i dont think your being selfish at all. Its a very difficult decision, and the fact that you are considering it shows you care. Also that you have nursed him through all the problems hes been having. Unfortunatly, he will probably continue to have problems, as older horses do. And it is up to you to decide when hes had enough.

Remember that its better a day to early than a day to late. Like Janet George said, sometimes its better to let them go when they still have a good quality of life. You have given him a very good life and no matter what your decision, dont ever feel like your being selfish, letting go of a much loved horse that has been with you for a long time is the most unselfish decision you can make.
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the second half of your post sounds as if your decision is made up of selfish reasons, you want a horse you can ride,, you cant afford 3, so basically if Po goes you could get another to ride?



I didn't think they were people around like this anymore.....OF COURSE you should't feel guilty and YOU ARE NOT being selfish. Horses are extremely expensive to keep and we have to keep things real and in perspective. Yes, we love them more than anything and yes it hurts soooo badly to have them PTS but sometimes when the time and money take over and the horse suffers.............he may be happy but if you asked him? would he said he was happy with cushings, boils, pus in foot etc.... ??

I think he would say ' thankyou for giving me a wonderful long and happy life but I am happy to go to sleep now'

As for wanting a new horse, go for it.......................you only live once and life is hard enough and making the right decisions along the way can only make it easier......

I put a horse down when he was 11 - if I had nursed him untill he was 'ready' to die I would have been nursing him a long time and would never had had the fun I am having with my new horse now!!

You ARE doing the right thing........................lots of love x
 
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It seems to me that the right time may be soon. He is suffering to a certain extent with his recurring health problems, and I think that it may be nice to end it before the winter makes it hard for him.

On saying this, YOU are the only one who will know when the time is right, he will let you know.
I applaud you for thinking about it now, rather than hanging on for your self.
 

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I dont think you are being too selfish really, he has obviously had a good life and i think the worst thing that can happen at that age, is if you keep them going as you feel too afraid to face the truth until something dreadful happens and you will always know that your beloved pet has left the world in such pain. Im sure when he has had enough he will let you know when he is ready to move on.
It is in your heart what you will truly follow, good luck with your decision i know it is a difficult time xx
 

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I absolutely don't think you are being selfish. You have done your very best for your horse, a lot more than many people would do. It sounds as if the time is comimg up to let him go and why should you not look forward to having a younger horse to ride and have fun with. That's normal and natural - I don't think there is anything selfish about you at all.
 

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What's that old saying, something along the lines of

"better a day too early than a day too late?"

In answer to your question, if it was me then probably yes.
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As others have said, a little early is much better than a little late. If you wait until he has no quality of life, he will spend his last days and weeks suffering.

I know it is a very hard decision. I have just made the same one for one of mine, she is 23 and I've had her since a yearling. Last winter her arthritis took a turn for the worst and I decided that this would be her last summer. She will be PTS in 4 weeks, which is hopefully before the hard frosts and cold weather set in. In a way, once you have made the call, it's a bit of a relief. You know you have the time to make their last days that extra bit more enjoyable and comfy, and it also gives you some time to come to terms with it. Though I am sure the next few weeks with my girl will be hard and I have no idea how I will get through that awful day. Nevertheless, their welfare must come first and if you have that feeling about him, then there is no way you are being selfish. Quite the opposite. Good luck in your decision and you're not alone in it.
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I don't think you are being selfish at all. As everyone else has said it sounds like he's had a great life but now it is getting to the point where he is beginning to suffer with deteriorating health.

My sis had to put down our much loved TB earlier in the year as he had done his suspensory again and had bad arthritis and ringbone etc all in one front leg and the other was going trying to compensate. He was on massive amounts of bute and it just wasn't fair on him as he had no quality of life anymore.

Don't listen to anyone else - it is obvious you love your horse dearly and it is an horrific decision to make but only you can make it.
 

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I think you would be perfectly reasonable to wait a little longer maybe, perhaps until the weather turns, and let him go?

I have never thought of setting a date x many weeks in advance, with a contingency plan for the unexpected, but it may well be a very sensible and positive way to proceed. I think from your post you sound a very caring, thorough and completely unselfish owner who has done the utmost for a loved horse and who now must consider his comfort and wellbeing over her own feelings of sadness and understandable anxiety about making a decision too early. No-one can argue you haven't done the over and above for him.

May you find a solution which rests easy with you and his last weeks be happy ones.

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I completely agree with Eventinggirl and the others who are making similar comments.

You are absolutely not being selfish in the slightest. You have given this horse decades of your life. You have cared for him when he has been sick, you have done what a responsible horse owner does, and you have quite simply, loved him.

No way would I leave a horse till it has no quality of life - jeez the moment anyone does that to ANY horse, should be the day they seriously consider giving up horses forever.

In my opinion, you are weighing up EVERY factor involved here; rightly so too. You are living in the real world not some fantasy land.

I don't know whether now is the time for your horse to go onto pastures new; only you can know this; and I think you should be at peace with whenever you choose to say your goodbyes, because you sound like you have been a very good owner.
 

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You're not being selfish at all. I hope when the time comes I have the strength to wiegh-up what is best for mine (I have friends who will give me a serious kick-up the arse if I don't)!!! I think the saddest thing I have ever seen was a aged pony with a growth behind its eye, who was kept going long after it had given up and had enough. As others have said 'better a day early than a minute too late'. Best wishes whatever you descide I'm sure will be in your horses best interests.
 

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Very very difficult, and I really do know how you feel. Cairo was loosing his eye sight in his remaining eye, he had serious problems with his back leg but still was able to get up and whilst on bute, was very happy pottering round the field and still having a tiny hack on occasion. Heavy horses are difficult to manage in old age due to their weight and size.

I was dreading this winter, restricted t/o for his stiffness and finding him lying down in the field unable to get up if he slipped in the mud. For us, this summer he was not ready to go and we decided to wait until he had difficulty in getting up, dropped weight and looked in pain, or he went blind. As our vet said, if love and money could have kept him going he would have lived forever.

A few months ago he had liver failure which made the decision for us - even then it was so hard to give the instruction to the vet to pts, but in reality for us it was a blessing even though at the time it didn't seem so.

I personally would wait for the winter so he can have the last few days of good weather and then see how he is and how you feel.

You will know when it is time. On the final day, Cairo looked at me, and I knew this time he was not going to fight back, he was old and tired and ready to move on. I have a huge amount of respect for those people who can say give them the summer, I have to confess I don't think I could do that. However, when it is obvious they are ready to move on, ie they are in pain or having difficulty getting up etc, I have no problem with making that decision.

Sorry I have not been more positive at what to do.
 

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if he is happy within him self eating drinking out in the field he his letting you know he is a fighter. the day he does not want to go on you will know they look at you in a way to say i have tried my best to be here but now i can not live on trust me you will no!xxx
 

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I feel terrible for even considering putting Po to sleep,

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Why on EARTH should you feel terrible?? You have given him a fabulous life - and done everything possible to care for him in his retirement. The last thing you can give him is a peaceful and dignified end. Ignore people on the yard - FAR more horse owners should make this decision earlier!! Yes, it will hurt you terribly - he has been a big part of your life for a long time - but let him go while he still has SOME quality of life. From here, it's just downhill, I'm afraid. If he could thank you for saving him the last months, he would!

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hi skylark1
its a hard decision but i have too agree with janetgeorge on this one. you sound a lovely caring horse owner who has her horses best interests at heart. sometimes the kindest decision for our horses is also the hardest for us to make. best wishes
 

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As others have said only you can decide when the time is right. Really feel for you in this difficult time but a word of caution - make sure you are CERTAIN before you make this difficult decision. We had one of ours PTS a couple of months ago and even though I now KNOW we did the right thing, immediately afterwards and for a few weeks I felt really guilty thinking could we have tried anything else to make him better - in reality we couldn't but I still felt guilty.
My mum had a 21 year old laminitic brood mare PTS a few years ago and has confessed to me that she still feels guilty to this day as the pony wasn't ready to go at that time.
Because your old friend is still enjoying life please be certain you are ready to let him go - it's your choice and not for others to judge but please make sure you do not make a decision which you regret.
 

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I completely agree with Janet George.

It is one of the hardest decisions I have ever had to make to PTS a old and ever sicker horse. Having made the decision and done the deed I felt relief not guilt.. . relief for my beautiful horse who was no longer having an uncomfortable life. Hope someone does the same for me when the time comes!!!

Good luck with whatever you decide. xx
 

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You sound an amazing owner and I can totally sympathise with you. It is such a dificult decision to make and always harder when time is on your side.

We had our first pony, who was 37, PTS several years ago and to this day I feel so guilty as I kept her going for much longer than I should have done. Movement wise she was totally sound, but ultimately her teeth failed her and it was very hard to keep weight on and her energy levels up.

It was only when the deed was done and I saw her as she was - a carcass and not my pony, that I realised that we should have done it at the end of the summer.

With all the fluff of her coat lying flat she was so thin and I am forever haunted that I kept her going for me rather than her.

as I led her down she looked old and tired and all the fight and spark had gone - afterwards when I spoke to the vet he told me he was so glad I had made the decision I had, as he said if he had not known us and how hard we had worked he would have considered it a welfare issue.

I thingk you need to consider that it is not just the animal's quality of life but also the quality of you life and all the work associated in caring for an elderly equine.

Thinking of you
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