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I rent 14 acres of land which is far too much for just my 2 horses and 1 shetland!
I am allowed to have other horses on there but the rent money goes to the yard owner, not to me. It is £100 per month per horse. I do have 3 stables but I use them all, however, a couple more are being built next year. I was thinking of doing some kind of full livery, so people can leave their horses with me and I look after them on a daily basis. Probably best suited to oldies or youngstock. My question is, if the livery is £100 per month, is it too expensive for people to pay extra for me to look after their horses? It is realy only worth my while if I get some of the money out of it, if that makes sense?
 
I would say for £100 pm I would expect grazing, a stable, storage area for my feed and hay, trailer parking and a manege.
Then services over and above that to be paid for as extras. If you have no facilities other than stable and grazing I would say £100 pm is high.
 
Sounds a lot to me.. Most I've ever paid for grass livery has been £40 per month, with the use of stables in an emergency. For full grass livery I wouldn't expect to pay more than £100 per month - and I would really want the use of a school as well. It may depend on where you are in the country though. Up here, prices do tend to be a fair bit lower than in the south. :)
 
£100 a month is expensive. I pay £50 for grass livery with stables.
Previous yard was £100 a month for stable, straw, wash room, lunging pen, 3 schools and fab hacking.
 
Down here grass livery is hard to find so £25 a week is not unheard of.

Cheaper options tend to be to find a field to rent.
 
round here grass livery is minimum 25 per week.

I don't think that is expensive . when you think of the maintenance of the land harrowing fertilizing and weed killing, seeding, fencing and water .
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I would never do grass livery grazing here even if i had the land to do it.

Diy and part is my way of going.


For 50/40 per month round here ( which is unheard of ) If i owned the land i would do nothing . I would spend no money on the land




If there were facilities to use then for £ 40 per month the facilities would not be included.
 
my grass livery is £125 a month with use of facilities and hay in the winter.

I guess it really depends where you are? (im near london)
 
I think it depends which part if the country you are , grass livery in my area ( Aberdeen ) ranges from about £80 to £200 a month. Depending on if they have a school or not etc
 
I pay £100 for DIY. We've got a stable, tie up points, water and lights. Hay and straw included, very nice large fields, a school with lights, lunging pen, jump paddock, horse walker, and trailer parking.
 
my DIY is 40 a week without depooing 43 with deepooing
you get
alarmed tackrooms
comon room
wc
hot water
coffee and tea biscuits inc
good grazing
indoor school
outdoor school
round penn
2 show jumping courses
some x country jumps
clear round jumping days
trailer parking
24 hr security
indoor clipping area
shoeing area
chest freezer to store rugs etc
area for hay and feed ( owner supplies)
hosing off area
owner on site
vet 2 miles up rd
ex hacking
 
I pay £30 for full grass livery which is everything done for me - feed x 2, hay x 2, rug changes, poo picking etc.

If I was on normal grass livery I would pay £10 a week. I am in SE Surrey.
 
Gosh I feel like I'm getting a good deal lol

I pay £55 a week for full livery, indoor school, floodlite out door school, jumping field, horse walker, secure tack room with loo's ect lol x
 
The cheapest grass livery that I know about in Surrey is £100 pcm and that's just a field. Where I live, grazing, stable etc is at least £150+ pcm.
When I moved from West London where I was on a yard that charged £90 per month for stable, grazing, school, jumping field and good hacking to Surrey and had to pay £164 per month for the same thing I was shocked, thought I was gonna have to give horses up.
 
ours is £110 per month, that includes hay and 1 feed a day plus use of school and cross country course, show jumps, tack room, storage, tea room, they change rugs and poo pick, sort farrier, vet etc
 
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Have been paying £42 a week for my mare while she was at stud, has continued as she didn't get in foal but has stayed out 24/7.
That includes regularly rotated/harrowed paddocks, rugs on/off as the weather changes and bring in for farrier/vet (although I generally do it if I'm around). Also includes use of tack room, wash bay, indoor and outdoor schools. We're in the midlands
 
So you rent all 14 acres from the land owner. then if you want to allow extra horses on the land the land owner gets their money as well as yours but the agreement is for you to rent all the land?

Is it just me or does that sound a bit unfair?

I don't know anything about livery / grass livery prices as I am fortunate enough to have my own land etc but I think £100 per month grass livery sounds a bit expensive (but I suppose it depends on where you are in the country).
 
It does really seem to come down to where you live. I am down South in Oxfordshire where i pay nearly £100 a month to rent a field from the farmer and whilst i have a nice stable and storage there are no other facilities.
But if i ever give it up there are people raring to take it on.
People seem happier to pay higher prices for grazing now to escape being on yards :)
 
OFG said:
So you rent all 14 acres from the land owner. then if you want to allow extra horses on the land the land owner gets their money as well as yours but the agreement is for you to rent all the land?

Is it just me or does that sound a bit unfair?
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Its not just you OFG - I thought that as well....
 
I rent 13 acres, I do all the topping and fence repairs that need to be done. I also pay per horse. I dont pay a £100 pcm per horse though, but I do pay the going rate for grass livery in the area. I have no facilites either. However it is totally worth it to be able to run my youngsters on in the perfect environment, with no hassle from other people.
 
Hi I was paying £120 per month for Turnout and a Stable along with menage use of showjumps and about 5 XC jumps, if you wanted to stable your horse over night in the summer it was an extra £5, I also helped one night a week and one morning on the weekends as I wasnt paying as much as everyone else on my yard, however the cost goes up in the winter for hay and straw. No flood lights or use of indoor school.

I work full time and am doing a short course with work I cant afford the time to make up the extra i.e do the yard jobs, so I am moving yards to £18 per week for stable, turnout and tackroom, lights and off road ride and water. Having told the YO Im going (I have no contract) The YO has given me from Tuesday til Friday to leave citing the fact my horse kicked another in the field as the reason for the hasty departure. (good job I already had another yard lined up).

I guess my advice is have a written contract even if its only basic, for grass or any other livery, I could have been in real bother and trusted the YO not to put me in this position, and it prevents YO form making any increases without good reason. I will never not have a contract again without a 4 week notice period or go completely on trust, which is a sad state of affairs.
 
i'd say its expensive, especially not having the use of a stable, i pay £140 a month that includes field stable, ad lib hay, as much straw as i want, tack room feed store, outdoor school good grazing rug store and amazing hacking.
 
In Hereford I have no idea. Down in expensive Surrey I pay £240 per month for full grass livery, this includes hay, feed, checks and bring in for farrier etc, also use of a sandschool and some basic jumps, tie up area and wash off facilities. Fields are steep vallies so rotated on a regular basis and harrowed/topped as needed.

My grass livery is fairly cheap for surrey with these facilities and fantastic hacking, some yards round here charge up to £275 just for grazing (non existent) and hay, otherwise DIY.
 
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