It's broke, lets breed it!

JFTD said:
Social research? errr... I didn't think this through... Maybe the STD clinic is right next to the tack shop and the parking's cheaper? You met in the car park when he backed his pick up (converted by nailing rows of seats into the truck to carry his offspring) into your car?


[oh god, now I've invented a whole imaginary retail and chav-health park?!]
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Are you insinuating that pick-up owners are chavs???? :mad: Us pick up owners are Rednecks, not chavs - whole different stereotype. :rolleyes: If he drives a pick-up he'll be called Cletus or Randy or Bubba and his wife will be Jolene, instead of a shell suit he'll wear dungarees, but he'll still have the tattoos and the 27 kids.

rhino said:
Nabbing all the free condoms would be my guess :p
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See JFTD there are far simpler explanations! Inventing a tack shop / std clinic shopping parade wasn't necessary!

JFTD said:
Expecting a dirty weekend, were you :eek: :D
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;) ;) ;)
 
Kat said:
Are you insinuating that pick-up owners are chavs???? :mad: Us pick up owners are Rednecks, not chavs - whole different stereotype. :rolleyes: If he drives a pick-up he'll be called Cletus or Randy or Bubba and his wife will be Jolene, instead of a shell suit he'll wear dungarees, but he'll still have the tattoos and the 27 kids.
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I really ought to take my Observers book of Lower Social Classes out with me next time I go chav spotting. Then I won't make such mistakes :o
 
I'm not convinced on the SI genetic link. We have one with SI, neither dam, nor sire, nor any siblings have it, no sign of it throughout the bloodlines (and most have been ours). That being said if we ever sold and found a decent home wanting to breed for themselves or others it would be the first thing said.

I wouldn't breed from a broken down simply because it was broken down, but if mine broke down I'd still want a foal from her as planned for myself (not if it was something that could be passed down though). I know this is not normally the case, but sometimes it is :) Also she would be a pet regardless too!

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I'm relatively new to breeding but my 'broken' broodmare (on so many levels) has just produced me the most outstanding foal I (and everybody else that's seen him) has ever seen. Her initial issue was suspensory as had been evented from 5 (not great for a 16.3 MW/HW Warmblood). If I look closely then yes, conformation wise there is a slight turning out of the foot on that leg but foal is as straight as a die.

What is far more important is how the breeder invests time and money into all offspring regardless and takes personal responsibility for their futures.
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So are you telling me that you advocate breeding a mare with a conformational defect? Really?
If you are happy to take that risk then so be it, but I personally would not want to gamble like that. Any defected foals are on your concience, and if you are happy then keep breeding but personally I see you as a very irresponsible breeder.
Oh and when you say "and everyone else thats seen him" who do you actually mean? Sounds to me like your buddies came and went "Oh how cyooooot."
As for your "perfect" broodmares, maybe they aren't as perfect as you like to think? Or maybe the stallions you bred them to have a defect?
Oh and you saying that "What is far more important is how the breeder invests time and money into all offspring regardless and takes personal responsibility for their futures." is ridiculous! The most important aspect of breeding is to breed two conformationally correct horses together to get a sellable, talented offspring which you can then sell for a profit. I'm sure that everyone can agree there.
 
LollyDolly said:
So are you telling me that you advocate breeding a mare with a conformational defect? Really?
If you are happy to take that risk then so be it, but I personally would not want to gamble like that. Any defected foals are on your concience, and if you are happy then keep breeding but personally I see you as a very irresponsible breeder.
Oh and when you say "and everyone else thats seen him" who do you actually mean? Sounds to me like your buddies came and went "Oh how cyooooot."
As for your "perfect" broodmares, maybe they aren't as perfect as you like to think? Or maybe the stallions you bred them to have a defect?
Oh and you saying that "What is far more important is how the breeder invests time and money into all offspring regardless and takes personal responsibility for their futures." is ridiculous! The most important aspect of breeding is to breed two conformationally correct horses together to get a sellable, talented offspring which you can then sell for a profit. I'm sure that everyone can agree there.
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Now that's a bit rude and uncalled for IMO :rolleyes: There is no such thing as perfect conformation, so yes, every horse will have one 'defect' or another.


Other than that there are rather a lot of assumptions in your post.
 
Rhino, if you read ScaryMare's first post you will see that it was her who was rude first. I admit that I was a little harsh however I did not see the need for her to begin like she did. Also, I am talking about serious defects which affect soundness and durability, not minor issues. :)
 
LollyDolly said:
Rhino, if you read ScaryMare's first post you will see that it was her who was rude first. I admit that I was a little harsh however I did not see the need for her to begin like she did. Also, I am talking about serious defects which affect soundness and durability, not minor issues. :)
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How exactly was she rude? Because she asked how many foals you had bred? (which judging by the fact you are a student I'm guessing may be none) Sometimes it is useful to know someone's level of experience (or lack of).

There are many problems with overbreeding. Uncontrolled breeding like the Dartmoor Hill ponies and in certain Gypsy cob circles. Wastage from the racing industry. Breeding for 'talent' over temperament which results in horses unsuitable for the average leisure rider... Having a go at someone who puts a lot of thought into her small scale breeding operation and does all they can to guarantee the future of all she breeds is really not on.
 
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