It's in our interest to keep horses as livestock

In our personal interests, yes, and I'm glad feed is zero rated ... but a horse is a luxury, not a necessity, so there's a little conscientious part of me that feels we ought to be paying VAT on associated costs. I don't expect anyone else to agree with me, though! :D
 
Theocat said:
In our personal interests, yes, and I'm glad feed is zero rated ... but a horse is a luxury, not a necessity, so there's a little conscientious part of me that feels we ought to be paying VAT on associated costs. I don't expect anyone else to agree with me, though! :D
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UMMMMM NO!!! I work to be taxed to death already!!!:eek:
 
I'm v conscience driven but I have an issue with all the layers of tax. vat despite being supposedly on necessities in surveys is shown to hit the poorest the most and I think it is just away of hiding what the real tax rate. Plus it's levied on income that has already been taxed once when you earned it. I don't mind within reason what the income tax rate is, but think that should be the tax rate full stop apart from council tax to pay for local services.

So I don't mind how much tax I pay in total but I don't think Vat is a very good way of levying it and object to being taxed twice.
 
This is an on and off argument in my hometown in the US, where the fuzzy green animal rights folks want horses to be re-classified as companion animals and their owners as "guardians" (which is the case for dogs; I'm from a weird place!). People who actually work in the equine industry think this is a terrible idea, as horse facilities and horse property would then be reclassified as recreational, rather than agricultural, for tax purposes, and costs would rise exorbatantly.

It's for no reason other than the sentimental; people not wanting to think of fuzzy wuzzy ponies as livestock, which I suppose "dehumanizes" them in a way that the sort of people who humanize equines and other pets find offensive.

As for me, well, I quite like being able to afford my horse, so she can keep on being livestock.
 
Theocat said:
In our personal interests, yes, and I'm glad feed is zero rated ... but a horse is a luxury, not a necessity, so there's a little conscientious part of me that feels we ought to be paying VAT on associated costs. I don't expect anyone else to agree with me, though! :D
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Hmmn could be a necessity - daughter is already planning which 6th form to go to....as the hacking route there is FAB (apart from crossing the a major A road, which if she goes early enough would be managable enough). She'd even hack to school if I'd let her as there's a livery yard opposite, but I think the traffic on the A road (she'd have to a good mile along it) wouldn't like that.
 
maisie06 said:
And not classified as pets - VAT would be added to horse feed and supplements straight away.....
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Could you claim it back? Second thoughts maybe not as just a 'pleasure' horse owner though.

Horses are livestock here, even if I didn't have the Boarding Stables, this is classified as a Horse Farm because I have the broodmares, I claim all expenses on my own horses. I have an excellent Farm Accountant ;):)
 
Does this mean I will be able to claim the VAT back on the underfloor heating I am thinking is needed in the stable to keep my pony cozy ..... (only joking, mine aren't molleycoddled and are treated like livestock, honest).
 
canteron said:
Does this mean I will be able to claim the VAT back on the underfloor heating I am thinking is needed in the stable to keep my pony cozy ..... (only joking, mine aren't molleycoddled and are treated like livestock, honest).
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Mine have underfloor heating:) It's called deep littering:D
 
canteron said:
Does this mean I will be able to claim the VAT back on the underfloor heating I am thinking is needed in the stable to keep my pony cozy ..... (only joking, mine aren't molleycoddled and are treated like livestock, honest).
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:D

:) I would - if such a thing were done :)

My baby goats and ducks would love it, poor sods have to rough it and make do with straw and heatlamps :(
 
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