its not working guys...........

[_daisy_]

So after clearing the whole mud fever up on Chantins leg, using numerous different creams and not washing her legs I thought we were getting somewhere. Even better that the ground was rock hard for a while, but then it snowed and melted. Now field is like a bog again - and guess what the mud fever is back again.

So this is what ive tried:
sudocrem,
mud gard cream,
oil,
zinc and castor oil cream,
vaseline,

the zinc and castor oil cream seemed to work the best but alas not worked as good as i hoped.

Was putting the cream pretty much all the way up her leg to a couple of inches below the inside of her hock. Checked her over like i do every morning to find a new patch above where the cream stops

- so sudocrem, wound cream & dermobian later I thought we'd got it back under control but NO, its come back with avengeance and has gone back down towards her fetlock again.

Any more tips/thoughts?

 

[Enfys]

Hi,

Have you tried Henryhorns method? It doesn't exactly get rid of mud fever but it certainly cleared the scabs from my arabs legs.

Plaster affected bits with cream (I used sudocrem) wrap with clingfilm, bandage and leave for 24 hours. The scabs came away with the cream and you can begin all over again.

Mud fever is such a pain isn't it? Where I was before my arabs only had to set foot in the fields to get the thing then I spent the entire winter fighting a vicious circle, more irritating was that it didn't affect all the horses on the yard. I used to liberally coat legs with babyoil which did help to an extent and was a lot less messy than udder cream and some of the named brands. The only time my horse didn't get it was when he didn't go out in the fields at all, not an option for some people I know.

 

[Gemshona]

HI, my friends horse has recently had mud fever and she has had to take it out of the field completely and into his stable 24/7 as her field was soooo bad and he had gone lame with it. Also other people i know have used Camrosa ointment on the sores which is like a barrier cream aswel as helping to heal it. Ive seen that it works on a horse at my yard but it is very expensive! http://www.camrosa.co.uk/ Just a thought. My horse had mud fever but not very bad so we were able to just treat it with sudocrem and lots of baby oil up the legs! Hope your horse gets better soon!

 

[gehar1729]

You could try h-10 ointment and shampoo. It's not as expensive as Camrosa.

I used the ointment to relieve and cure a fungal infection on my horse's coat. I seem to remember that it could be used for mudfever and other skin conditions.

If you ring them they are very friendly and helpful in advising which product to use. the website is www.h-10.co.uk

hope that helps

 

[_daisy_]

yes thats what i did to get rid of the mud fever to start with. It really amazing. I used sudocrem with the clingfilm and the scabs came off within 12-24hrs.
I think when its as wet as it is I have no chance with it. Boots seem to help to some extent but then can go mad and make it worse. I use the creams and her legs looks disgusting and I cant get the cream off with any kind of shampoo or anything! Ive not tried baby oil as i dint think it would be substantial enough for her. Was thinking of trying to get some parafin oil or pig oil and then getting some sulphur powder to see if that will work for her???
Its not really an option for me to keep her in 24/7. Shes 17.2 in a 12x12 stable. It isnt ideal but at least shes got 1. Id like her in a 16x16 stable then I wouldnt mind as much if she stayed in more. Other thing is that I cant really turn her out for a couple of hours as Im in training for the next 4 weeks on set hours so would be a get to get back to fetch her in etc. Might be better when I get back onto flexi time. Theres no one really I can ask to fetch her in as theyre scared of her. If I had the choice she would live on either hard core or concrete for winter. It might be though that she has an hour or so wandering around the yard in a morning and the same on a night - once it gets a little lighter later on I can get back from work and take her out hacking on a night and its only about 10wks till they can go out on the summer fields

 

[_daisy_]

i dont think i could cope with her in 24/7 for a long period. i wouldve had her in today but its been school hols and the liveries arent that fond of her so wouldnt like to put either them or Chantin in a position where something might happen.
Havent tried camrosa. Might work out very expensive - this is how bad it gets:
after first day of clingfilming with sudocrem

 

[_daisy_]

thanks for that. Open to any advice - will have a look at the webbie and ring them on Monday to see what they say and how expensive it is.

 

[Gemshona]

aww poor thing!! I guess it doesnt help that she has white legs too!! Camrosa is v expensive but it does work, just depends on if you can afford it, i know i couldn't!! My horse is the walking invalid at the moment lol!!

 

[_daisy_]

yes but to top it off she has 4 full white legs!

- she looks lovely when they are sparkly and clean in the summer

but a pain in the arse in the winter

. Wouldnt want another with 4 full white legs.

I should say that I am lucky that she only has it on her NH not on all for. Dont know how id cope with it this bad on all 4
Once I get the scabs off the problem is keeping them from teh mud/wet - just need a really good waterproofer - if camrosa works then ill pay for it - will have to ring them for prices as non on the website

 

[alligator]

Benzly Benzoate from chesmist did the trick for me. Horse was lame with it so stabled for about 3/4 days, washed legs with hibiscrub once a day and then put benzo on rubber glove and plastered all over leg. When turned out was back out 24 hrs, when finished riding rinsed mud and sand off legs with hose, then plaster legs with benzo again and they've been fine since, hope this helps

 

[_daisy_]

thanks alligator. ive been refraining from washing her legs as i didnt know whether it wasnt helping getting them wetting them all the time even though she had either thermatex wraps/stable bandages on.
Is it a solution rather than a cream? is it potent when you say you have to put it on with a rubber glove? just that she has very sensitive skin and would hate her to have a reaction.

 

[Gemshona]

alligators suggestion does sound cheeper, i would try that before forking out all of the money for camrosa!! Hibiscrub is fab!! lol Although you still have the stabling issue. Could always ring Camrosa and ask them which products would be suitable and explain your situation. Would deffinatly put baby oil or some kind of barrier on her other legs so she doesnt get mud fever on all fours! that would be awful! hope this has been some help though.

 

[sevenoceans]

my horse has full 4 white legs and HAD mud fever alot worse than those in pics... I have put him on Global Mud X supplement and applied sudo cream for fornight it had disappeared! and i didn't even need to put him in stable 24/7 just normal out in the day and in at night, his field is like swamp at the moment....

good luck

 

[buzzles]

I tried EVERYTHING to get rid of my boys mud fever last year, sudacream, aloe vera, mud fever washes, etc. He also has 4 white socks and couldn't stay in as he gets too stressed. In the end it cleared up by washing and scrubbing off the scabs with hibiscrub and warm water, drying the legs with a clean towel and then lathering on E45 cream. I went through a huge tub of E45 but the mud fever was gone within a week. Amazing stuff!! I now recommend it to everyone, and the mud fever hasn't returned this year even though the fields are muddier and wetter than ever and hes out all day.

 

[Heather40]

This may sound daft but it works and my two greys were worse than in the pics. They also have like barbed wire tears all around the pastern and fetlock.

Lard. Get the scabs off clean the leg then smother lard all over. After a couple of applications it has built a barrier. Because of the anti-oxidants in it, you can also put it over open wounds and it heals them.

I was desperate as the legs had swollen to the hip and shoulder and she was getting aggressive staying in. The vet wasn't any help as they wouldn't go near her untill she was calmer - and they worked well - NOT!!

Put her on mud-x after a course of restore (important as it then cleans the liver etc and makes the mud-x work faster and stronger), then ran out of creams so resorted to what i had been told by a friend who has used it for years.

within 3 days there was a remarkable improvement. They were both out 9am -3pm in heavy clay mud too.

 

[angela24]

What bedding have you got her on, my last geldings MF was horrendous to the point he was on Abs and box rest (he came to me with it). I changed his bedding from shavings to straw and within days it had cleared and he never had it again.

I also make my own cream which is amazing in getting rid of it and good as a barrier too.

Pm me and i'll give you the receipe if you want it.

 

[joanne1920]

my cobs legs cleared up and now mud fever is back but managing to control it, i use heel to hoof every day before turnout on all the pink areas and scabs and rub in well, at night i dont wash his legs but let the mud dry itself and fall off naturally. i use fungitrol soary every 3 to 4 days , on cotton wool and rub in really well in to areas half and hour before heel to hoof before turnout.... before the snow this had cleared it up and all drying out.... now not very scabby at all just pink skin thats sore, heel to hoof it great, was recommmended by piebaldsparkle and its the best stuff ive found. Fungitrol is used to treat thrush in hooves but local tack shop recommended as has been a fungal skin infection thats very like mud fever, so bought some and it works!!! fungitrol seems to dry it all up, and heel to hoof protects and soothes as well as being a natural anti bac and anti fungal! hope this helps a bit xx

 

[SpruceRI]

I'm using Hoof and Heel for my Shettie whose skin is inflamed but hasn't erupted in mud fever as such. After using the Hoof and Heel [in the morning after he's been stabled] 4 times, his skin looks better already.

My fields are like swamps also, and due to his small stature the mud comes up to his knees, so his poor little leggies don't stand a chance of finding dryness.

 

[Tia]

MTG by Shapleys. Think I mentioned this on your last post. It's by far the best stuff I have used for rain rash or mudfever....but you have to order it from the States...although I believe someone on here did offer you some to try?

 

[Jose]

I tried the camrosa on my lad & if anything it made it worse. Keratex Mud Shield powder is the only thing I’ve found that works.

 

[_daisy_]

shes currently being fed Mud Gard powder which is helping but not as well as it used to do - maybe when shes finished the tub ill try the Mud X

 

[_daisy_]

not thought about E45 - got to get some more sudocrem so will pick up a tub of E45 whilst im there. Im willing to trying anything. Ive gone through quite a few differnet tubs. It works for a while then something else seems to happen and im back to square 1.

 

[_daisy_]

shes on Shavings and rubber mats. She has a nice bed which is kept clean and topped up every week.
She never had mud fever until she came to the land shes on now. Thing is I have 3 that live out literally 2 fields away and she doesnt seem affected in that field, must be something to do with the composition of the soil - down side is I cant keep her in that field.

 

[_daisy_]

fungitrol??? is that like fungasol?

 

[_daisy_]

ive found a minute tub of that cream - wont last 2 minutes with the size of her legs but will try it on an area and see what happens. By this rate Ill have to do a chart of which part of the mud fever is being treat with what cream

 

[_daisy_]

to be honest Tia I cant remember if anyone offered to give me some. Ill have to look back over the posts and see if I can find any mention of it. Is it a good barrier?
How much is it? Do you know any sites that will send it over to the UK?

The vet called me tonight and has offered me 2 other creams. Fuciderm which is as good as dermobian but in very small tubes and their own mud fever cream. God knows how much they are going to cost to buy - she didnt know off the top of her head. Will have to ring the centre tomorrow to ask.

 

[_daisy_]

looks like there might be a seller on ebay that sells MTG - will have a good look. If not will get in touch with shapleys and see how much it will cost to send it to the UK

 

[_daisy_]

found the post but it wasnt an offer to send me the MTG - it was Madam Max that was offering it to mossburnw - however will PM MM to see where she got it from Cheers Tia

 

[Tia]

Ahh sorry, I thought it was you, LOL!!


Here's their homepage. Good luck.

http://www.shapelys.com/

 

[_daisy_]

dont worry about it - couldnt remember any kind person offering me it but double checked in case they had and id ignored them.....
ive had a look at their webbie. Some good stuff on it and if it doesnt work for her can always use it for another purpose. Ive PM'd MM to see where she got hers from as I cant find a UK supplier. Will get in touch with them to see about posting some to me if no luck in the UK

need the luck at the mo. Started clingfilming her legs again this morning. She was quite happy about staying in her box which is good. Still wont eat the bute unless mum feeds it her - little madam. Got most of the scabs off but not all as yet. Re clingfilmed them tonight so hopefully theyll all come off in the morning.

Been given some free wash - well I call it wash. Its that stuff that they have in hospitals instead of washing their hands - the alcohol based stuff that kills bacteria. Will try it when all her skin has healed to see if it helps.