its not working guys...........

[smokeybabes]

Make sure skin has fully healed before putting the alcohol stuff on otherwise it will sting like hell!!!!
Have you tried the purple spray (methyl violet) with aloe vera? (got mine from countrywide)
Mine got mud fever for 1st time this year (not as bad as yours i admit! And luckily i've only got one white leg!) and i used this spray as one of the lecturerers at uni conducted some research into aloe vera, to see whether it just helps by promoting healing or whether it actually has any effect on the mud fever. Trials were done both invivo and invitro , comparing a traditional cream (sorry can't remember what it was!), aloe vera, and other aloe vera products (one of which was the methyl violet with aloe vera purple spray). The results showed the purple spray was the most effective and did directly work on mud fever as it had good results both invivo and invitro. Purple spray was more effective than aloe vera alone and the traditional treatment.
So i used this when mine got it (i did cling film legs first to remove scabs) then once mud fever was nearly gone and i was turning out again i also used liquid paraffin to help waterproof the legs.

 

[_daisy_]

first i thought brill - get using it straight away as i thought it was just a wash. then read ingredients and thought "wonder how long it would be before I had a back foot planted in my head after applying this to her leg" certainly wont use it till the skin has definitely healed

never ever used purple spray - someone at a yard put me off using it as she used it on everything and anything - poor bloody pony is all I can say. Twas regularly looking like a dot to dot waiting to be joined up.
Also its a pain in the arse to get the colour off the coat - now if they did a clear one i wouldnt hesitate to use it.

Saying that i found some aloe gel in my cupboard - was thinking of using that however it isnt anything like a barrier more of a soothing gel. Would help though in initial stages im sure???

 

[Patches]

Email M-T-G suppliers Shapleys, they will send to the UK. I actually asked a relative in America if they would send me some as it was likely to be cheaper. I just paid them via paypal.

I have a large bottle of it. Fabulous stuff. Used it on ringworm and salander and malanders sores. Love it!

 

[_daisy_]

ooh might have to invest in some before I fork out on vet stuff - doesnt seem that expensive on their website.

cheeky of me but - would youre kind relatives do the same for me if I paid them via Paypal????

 

[Patches]

They sent it over with Christmas presents and asked if I needed any again this time (which I didn't). Would have no idea if they'd be willing to do it again or how much postage for that alone would cost. Our Christmas parcels are dear to post anyway so I don't think they noticed the weight for the M-T-G all that much. Might cost more for them to post it to you than it would for Shapleys if that's all you're having

 

[_daisy_]

just thought id ask - cheers Patches - ill email Shapleys to see how much it would cost to send to the uk

 

[Tia]

vicijp also ordered some from the States - she might know how much the shipping was?

 

[piebaldsparkle]

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fungitrol??? is that like fungasol?

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One and the same Fungasol was rename Fungitrol either last year or the year before (it's made by Equine America). I've used both the sampoo and cream and found them quite good. Hoof to Heel from Barrier Health is also very good and not too expensive either.

Haven't read whole trend, but have you thought about getting turnout boots/socks. My friend has them on her mare and they are brilliant (sadly haven't found any that fit my cobs stumpy fat legs!!!).

 

[apkelly01]

Hi,
I was like yourself at one point - Aileen 1 mud fever - nil. I was washing her legs with an anti bacterial shampoo, rinsed them with a diluted detol solution, dry as best as I could with some towels (1 for each leg!) and then I applied Eqicreme. I did this everyday religiously, when I brought her in from the field or finished riding her. I was at a point where there was no scabs, no sign of mud fever and her hair was starting to grow back.

But work took over I was unable to keep up the routine. I skimped a bit and only hosed her legs, dried them and applied the Eqicreme. Well, before I knew it - it was back with avengance (sp)! I tried baby oil this time in the routine, and although it helped with the scabs, it made her ergots very, very soft, a bit too soft for my liking. So. I've stopped using it.

The one thing in my routine I've notice that seems to make a huge difference is the warm diluted detol solution. I make enough so I can rinse all her legs from the knee/hock down. It's working so well, I reduced the anti bacterial wash to once a week. So here is my new routine.......

1.Bring her in from the field and hose down her legs and I make sure all the mud is removed - cold I know but has to be done. Use the anti bacterial shampoo if I've time (and no queue for the hose!)

2.Next I dilute a good measure of detol in a bucket of warm water, and I sponged this on her legs making sure to get everywhere.

3.Then I dry her legs as best as I can.

4.I apply Equicreme (zinc/caster oil/tea tree oil) to all affected areas.

5.Finally, I use use hoof oil as her hooves seem a bit dry after the treatment. Give her a hug and kiss goodnight and promise to see her tomorrow were we do it allll over again!

I've started to get a handle on the mud fever again and I hope it will have cleared up completely in the next week or so.

I know there's huge debate over hosing the legs off or letting the muck dry and then brushing it off. Personally, I think her legs are wet anyway when I bring her in. And since mud fever is caused by bacteria living in the mud and entering the damaged skin caused by wet conditions, wouldn't it make sense to get rid of the mud ASAP and apply a solution like detol to kill the bacteria instead of letting the horse stand in it's stable overnight with the bacteria multiplying and infecting larger areas??

Anyhow, if you got this far - fair play to you! Thanks for reading my post which is 3% advice and 97% rant

 

[piebaldsparkle]

I have to confess - I always hose off her legs if they are covered in wet mud.

Then towel dry and put on Thermatex leg wraps. I apply cream in morning once legs are completely dry.

 

[Patches]

No harm in asking!

I've emailed our cousin. Problem with them is they're quite slow to get around to posting things. Too laid back!

 

[_daisy_]

that explains then as ive got a tub called fungasol. do like that so will invest in another tub! might try the shampoo as well for her.
got 3 sets of turnout boots for her - 2x sportabac and 1 x westropp. Tehy seem to have made it worse in some places so have stopped using them altogether. They seemed to make her legs sweat so opening the pores up.

 

[_daisy_]

thanks ever so much for all that - ive wondered exactly the same about washing her legs as if they are already wet my obviously respoce would be to wash them clean and then dry them out rather than leaving the mud to dry. Only thing is that the shampoo will take any natural oils out of the skin if washed regularly.

i really dont know what to do with her - shes stood in her stable at the mo making sure her leg is clean and no scabs on it before I make my next move with her.

 

[_daisy_]

cheers Patches, will you let me know what they say?

 

[aimeerose]

i would recommend the creaming and clingfilming and then udder salve. easyer to was off than sudocreme and IMHO better.

once the scabs are clear start using keretex mud guard powder - i like this as it doesnt dampen or soften the skkin like creams do.

 

[kibob]

Hi

Don't know if this has been suggested already but udder cream is the best and cheapest barrier cream I have found. When my lot got mudfever years ago there was a company called indian herbs and they sold a powder treatment for mudfever, I mixed this in with the udder cream and it worked a treat.

The only time mine have suffered with it was the winter that I decided to wash their legs off every night, since then I just leave them with the mud on and no mudfever

(runs off to touch wood)

 

[apkelly01]

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Only thing is that the shampoo will take any natural oils out of the skin if washed regularly.

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You're right there. I only shampoo her legs once a week now with Fungitrol as the detol solutions doing a cracking job.

Unfortunatly I can't keep my mare in as she's in foal and needs to get out. I bring her in every night and hose her legs, detol solution, dry and then equicreme.

She had mud fever on all her legs including a leg with no white sock. I checked her out last night and the mf's gone from her front legs and it's healing nicely on her hind legs (hind legs were the worst affected).

I know now that the equicreme alone is not working, but a combination of the diluted detol solution, drying the legs and then equicreme is working nicely.

Roll on the Summer!!!

I wish you all the best with you're mare - how's she doing?

 

[_daisy_]

thanks for that. Shes been in the stable now for 3 days so isnt very happy so took her out riding at 7 this morning as I was in work till 10. Bandaged her legs up as the tracks are really grotty - that black ash stuff. Came back and washed her legs down with a little Hibi scrub and towel dried them. All the scabs have come off and her leg is looking so much better. It was even better as the YO husband was at the yard and he didnt realise how bad she had got it so hes now thinking what he can do for her turnout wise!! YAY.
so Im going to try the fuciderm cream on her first to see if that helps as shes got 1 patch that is too high to bandage and isnt looking as good as the rest of her leg. Also vet has given me some Danilonas shes not fond on bute so hopefully once her leg isnt as painfull i can get it completely sorted and well on the road to recovery.

 

[apn8keh]

Not quite sure how you can get hold of it without a doctors prescription, but we cleared up a bad case of mud fever by cleaning with antiseptic wet wipes & applying a small amount of fusidic acid cream (that had been prescribed for a person with impetigo). It is antibacterial as impetigo is caused by a staph aureous infection & it worked a treat.

 

[apkelly01]

Great to hear your mare is on the mend

M/F such a pain, can't wait for the summer!