Ive Been Reported.....Again.....

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the person might not know much or anything about horses at all mine are out during the day with no hay i would try not to worry she might have nothing else to worry about at all not know anything about horses whatsoever or........could be mad (joking) the haynets is good idea but hard in cold winter for you ive done that if you ant more value for money go large bales easier no work just plonked in field and there you go i think youll save money as well !
 
dooble said:
At least they're getting some hay, which is more than can be said than for some horses near me... Out 24/7, no grass to speak of, no hay put out. Poor things are permanently stood in the gateway waiting for their twice daily feed (at least they're getting that). Don't understand why people have horses if they can't afford to keep them - and by 'afford' I mean both money and time.
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Well i hope Dooble that you have called up and reported the owners of those horses.
 
Mymare because that is what she wrote "Sorry, I know I come across as a real cow"

In peoples eyes I must be a VERY cruel owner.

My lot = 4 Pure bred Arabs one of which is 20 years old and my New forest Mare aged 21 years old get a bale of hay a DAY, half in the morning and half in the evening.

They are feed hard feed twice a day and have access to the stables and the field shelter (All which have bedding down)

They are all rugged up.

Ohh and they live out 24/7


Report me if you want
 
thinlizzy said:
the person might not know much or anything about horses at all mine are out during the day with no hay i would try not to worry she might have nothing else to worry about at all not know anything about horses whatsoever or........could be mad (joking) the haynets is good idea but hard in cold winter for you ive done that if you ant more value for money go large bales easier no work just plonked in field and there you go i think youll save money as well !
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I do hope your horses are able to get to the grass and that there is plenty. Also if it is too much like hard work to fill a few haynets then one shouldn't have a horse!

I agree a large bale is more cost effective, but surely it shouldn't matter if something takes a while to do?
 
paulineh said:
In peoples eyes I must be a VERY cruel owner.

My lot = 4 Pure bred Arabs one of which is 20 years old and my New forest Mare aged 21 years old get a bale of hay a DAY, half in the morning and half in the evening.

They are feed hard feed twice a day and have access to the stables and the field shelter (All which have bedding down)

They are all rugged up.

Ohh and they live out 24/7


Report me if you want
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The difference here is that you horses may not be (or have been) suffering any health or condition issues? Unlike the OP's have been in the past.
 
paulineh said:
Mymare because that is what she wrote "Sorry, I know I come across as a real cow"

In peoples eyes I must be a VERY cruel owner.

My lot = 4 Pure bred Arabs one of which is 20 years old and my New forest Mare aged 21 years old get a bale of hay a DAY, half in the morning and half in the evening.

They are feed hard feed twice a day and have access to the stables and the field shelter (All which have bedding down)

They are all rugged up.

Ohh and they live out 24/7
I can only presume that it was you who 'button pushed'. Please explain your reason after you publically posted this....?
"Sticks and Stones may break my bones BUT words will NEVER hurt me"
I really am curious to know why? AS they say 'curiousity killed the cat' so I presume that the final 'BP' will be delivered!
Will have to continue 'adding' as every time I hit the 'send' button I get....'yourmessage is too short, blah blah
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paulineh said:
Mymare because that is what she wrote "Sorry, I know I come across as a real cow"

In peoples eyes I must be a VERY cruel owner.

My lot = 4 Pure bred Arabs one of which is 20 years old and my New forest Mare aged 21 years old get a bale of hay a DAY, half in the morning and half in the evening.

They are feed hard feed twice a day and have access to the stables and the field shelter (All which have bedding down)

They are all rugged up.

Ohh and they live out 24/7


Report me if you want
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Why are you making this about yourself? I really don't think anyone cares about YOU and YOUR SITUATION. I'm pleased your horses are all fit and healthy. The reason this girl has been reported in the past was because she wasn't feeding enough and asked on here what she needed to do. Helpful advice was given and some forum members were upset that nothing seemed to be taken on board.

People do not generally report people for a grudge. I believe the OP is quite young so I wouldn't imagine that adults would pick on her for no reason. I am not saying anything is untoward, the people may know nothing about horses or they might know something we don't. Please stop making this about yourself and attacking forum members on here that the majority of us highly respect.
 
lochpearl said:
Why are you making this about yourself? I really don't think anyone cares about YOU and YOUR SITUATION. I'm pleased your horses are all fit and healthy. The reason this girl has been reported in the past was because she wasn't feeding enough and asked on here what she needed to do. Helpful advice was given and some forum members were upset that nothing seemed to be taken on board.

People do not generally report people for a grudge. I believe the OP is quite young so I wouldn't imagine that adults would pick on her for no reason. I am not saying anything is untoward, the people may know nothing about horses or they might know something we don't. Please stop making this about yourself and attacking forum members on here that the majority of us highly respect.
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Ditto this.
 
dooble said:
Do you think I should though, really? They're not thin, yet, but if it carries on then they will be by the end of winter, I'm sure.
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Honestly? yes I would definitely speak to the owner or if not, someone like the BHS and ask for advice. It could be that a friendly word in the owner's ear might make a difference.

I'm sure it isn't healthy for horses to have 2 hard feeds a day with no forage inbetween? Fine if they can graze but if there is a thick covering of snow in the field that stops them from grazing I would expect them to have hay.
 
bensababy said:
on that note can i also point out if you are hanging haynets to make sure they are not so low that legs could get entangled..
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Good point. I'm lucky where I'm going to the lady is around all day, she doesn't work so apparently spends her days pooh picking (OMG I think I've died and gone to heaven...she doesn't need me to pooh pick!!!) and she checks everything 5 or 6 times a day!!! My lads are going to be beside themselves they love attention!!!:rolleyes:
 
Think this post seems to be going off on a whos more popular/knowledgeable direction. OP - It seems a popular belief that you are not feeding enough hay, i would honestly consider looking into getting large round bales and putting them in field for them to eat, if your mare has previously had weight issues - this time of year is a dangerous time for her to drop weight again. Do the reporters have any reason to be concerned? maybe your mare could be underweight? worth a thought.
 
lochpearl said:
I do hope your horses are able to get to the grass and that there is plenty. Also if it is too much like hard work to fill a few haynets then one shouldn't have a horse!

I agree a large bale is more cost effective, but surely it shouldn't matter if something takes a while to do?
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trying to help op ive filled haynets in the cold large bales are easier and cheaper and people can see them from a distance
my own horses are well thank-you as much hay as they want three haynets large ones every night and hay in the rack and thick beds of homegrown straw on the farm they are very happy ,and if i cant get to them or nedd help i have assisted diy were i am and i can well afford it thank you its not the cheaper places to keep them the fields are very rich green grass and lots of it and field rotated and rested ,im very lucky to have a good place for them esp at winter hay and straw is unlimited in winter ,i have lived one horse out last year and large bales are easier if i had the right place with shelter , they would be living out this winter as well both are used to living out
 
paulineh said:
The OP's horse is not now suffering any health problems and as she says the mare has plenty of weight on.
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Yes she was certainly starting to look good toward the end of the summer. And lots of good advice was taken on board by the OP.

But as you know horses drop condition so quickly - and given the situation last year (you may want to look back at the old posts) obviously no one would want to see that repeated.

Your horses may well be thriving on your management. But all situations are different. Given what we know about the OP's horse, and the situation it's kept in, it simply needs to be fed adequate amounts of hay to maintain it's condition, and prevent a repeat of last year. Which was half a bale of hay between 3 (if not 4) a day, monitoring by the RSPCA, and a cry for help from the OP for help.

Let's face it in most parts of the country now, horses that are out 24/7 on snow and ice riddled fields will need supplimenting. So no one is saying anything that should be a suprise.......
 
thinlizzy said:
trying to help op ive filled haynets in the cold large bales are easier and cheaper and people can see them from a distance
my own horses are well thank-you as much hay as they want three haynets large ones every night and hay in the rack and thick beds of homegrown straw on the farm they are very happy ,and if i cant get to them or nedd help i have assisted diy were i am and i can well afford it thank you its not the cheaper places to keep them the fields are very rich green grass and lots of it and field rotated and rested ,im very lucky to have a good place for them esp at winter hay and straw is unlimited in winter ,i have lived one horse out last year and large bales are easier if i had the right place with shelter , they would be living out this winter as well both are used to living out
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Again, someone else who is trying to make this about themselves. I never said you didn't provide your horses and pay for them. I said that if it is too much hard work to fill a few haynets then don't have a horse. yes we can all throw money at things but that is not looking after the horse. I also never said they weren't well cared for. Read my post!
 
I know its a pain to be reported again (...and again....and again :rolleyes: ) BUT I have to say if it was me, I'd prefer that people cared enough to report than just walked on by. You also get the chance to show how well you are looking after Lady too :D

I would also agree with getting a round bale if you can - I have one again this year & only have my boy, but it works out ALOT cheaper and is far more convenient
 
If you have snow on the ground and people cannot see that the horses have something to eat they may be concerned - That is understandable.

I think what you may feed in "normal" winter conditions where horses living out can at least pick at what grass is in the field is very different to what you may do with the snow. (Assuming you have a covering of snow like we do)

My mare is currently FAT due to moving to some very good grass 6 weeks ago and a few weeks off, up until last week she had no hay and was fed balancer and chaff. Now she is on a 1/2 bale of hay and some haylage per day. There is always some left when I top up.

This to to keep her occupied and warm during this bad weather, her rations will drop once the snow is gone, BUT will continue at a lower rate.

The amount you feed for a horse out 24/7 will depend on the horse and the quality of the grazing. As others have said hay / haylage is pref to hard feed and large bales of either work out cheaper.

Good luck in maintaining the weight on your mare this winter and lets hope this snow goes ASAP!!!
 
It is impossible to compare directly as snow/grass conditions are so different across the country.

I have 3 out rugged on 10 acres with plenty of ''bite'' and stands of bushes for shelter
They have 2 bucket feeds a day of Alfa A, Speedibeet, HiFibre cubes and soaked grass pellets. They are not queuing at the gate but do come willingly when they see the buckets.

They are currently ignoring the hay but I only have light covering of snow.

They are stabled at night when it rains heavily as the land floods, but cold dry weather much healthier out.

If the OPs horses eat the hay quickly then I agree with the other posters on here who said more hay is needed--I would say 2 x 20kg bales a day minimum if grass is under snow or the field was grazed down before the snow came or a big bale ad lib as also suggested
 
What a bummer - but if the lady/man from WHW likes what she see's then you can pat yourself on the back, you must be doing something right. I would also seriously consider trying to get some big bales, even of you dont put them in the field. Small bales our way are £5.50 - I get a large square (half heston I think) of haylage delivered for £24. Its madness to throw away your precious pennies.

Just to buck the trend - I dont put a large bale in the field because 3 out of my 4 are on serious weight watchers regime - I tried last year and they demolished it in a few days. They have their haylage weighed (not every time, but every few weeks I check the amounts) spread out into 4 'meals' Brekkie, lunch, tea and then double portions for supper at about 10/11pm. I put some hay in doubled hay nets and some on the floor to try and spread the eating time as we have very little grazing left. I up the quantity by about 1/3 when its particulary cold/windy or snowy. At night they are barned so can munch straw if they are starving - and yes the little ones do!

If its any consolation I am waiting for my next door neighbour to report us. When we moved in he said 'I know nothing about horses', ever since then he is constantly asking questions such as - why does the little one (shetland) not have a coat, why are they outside when it rains, why dont the small ones have shoes on, do they like the snow, is it safe for them to be in the snow, wont their feet get cold - argghhhhh
 
we are feeding ad lib hay, 10 sec A ponies are going through a big bale in 2days in round feeders an they have 20 acres of grass. the other 5 only picking on a bit in there field so only having on small bale a day with most left. stallions and foals on hayledge eating a big bale in about three days. roll on spring and lots of grass.

forage should be available as much as they want to eat, if they are running out of hay they are not getting enough, if the have plently of grass they wouldnt be eating hay so quickly.
 
I have been reported as well to SSPCA not impressed but what can you do but let them look and see for themselves that everything is fine.

They have to check our reports thats the only really annoying thing.

Nikki xxx
 
we had rspca out in summer, we were reported for having a stallion out with other ponies, and they aparently had no supply, my trough is big enough to swim in.
 
thinkthe best thing you can do is get a large round bale delivered to the field.
if you ring your local farmer they will bring it to your field and put it in for you. all you have to do is be there to open the gate for the farmer and unwrap the bale.
large bales cost around 20 - 25 pound around my area and should last your horses around ten days give or take. that makes its around 2.50 a day so will make it cheaper for you and your horses will have constant access to hay which should in turn stop people reporting you if all the horses are in good condition
 
lochpearl said:
Again, someone else who is trying to make this about themselves. I never said you didn't provide your horses and pay for them. I said that if it is too much hard work to fill a few haynets then don't have a horse. yes we can all throw money at things but that is not looking after the horse. I also never said they weren't well cared for. Read my post!
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i did read your post ! Sai i hope your horses ......so i take it it were mine ? And i am there twice a day usually though with bad weather i had to use the assisted diy ...i dont have money to throw away and people with horses dont ..i dont know anyone ....again, trying to help op with suggestions and time shes going three times a day......
 
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